@tour2ma said: OK, Steve... When we get to the point that you are making up examples (hip hop, etc.) and ignoring points made (drafted QBs told they would not be starters), I'm out. 'Til we meet again... Well I'd call it a hypothetical. And really since neither of us know anything about what goes on, what's the difference? But I don't think I ignored any evidence. Those guys started within a very few games greeted with a sneering he better learn to be a backup right after being drafted in the first round. Anyway... Kind of like getting angry over a ginger vs Mary Ann debate But a tip of the hat for selecting a cool movie to quote. ♡ WSS

He ran a similar (slightly faster) 40 time, albeit a few years back. As for the crowell run, I think he did make ground, from being a yard or two behind, and 5+ yards wide, he caught up to being a yard or two wide and a yard wide, with runners in his way. He may need to learn 'functional' speed, but he's got it there IMO.

@lbc-mike said:I have seen that we have the 32nd pick? Did i miss something Correct. Browns would've had #33, but New England had to forfeit their 1st rounder so the Browns slide up a spot.