Nick Saban gets 5 of the top 15 players in the country every year. Thats equivalent to five #1 draft picks every year.

He makes 5.3 in salary plus a ton of ancillary income and no salary cap to worry about and he is the "King of Alabama". He answers to the

A.D.(maybe) and school President, both who probably don't want to get him pissed because Saban has real power.."Power of the people"

Why go to the NFL? Where if you don't have a QB your screwed..Unless you think Weeden will be an upper echelon QB why in

God's green earth would you come here..Nick learned from the last experience..IT'S ABOUT THE QB.. He can win at BAMA with a average QB

and none of the headaches that come w/ the life of an NFL Head Coach

Wasn't this one of H&H's 1st big signing, the dominant pass rusher we needed.. and Mangini would never play him and didn't even activate him.

WHY you ask? Because f**kin Mangini knew and what H&H saw last season ans we we painfully had to watch,,THE GUY WAS

A FIRST CLASS DOG!!..NON HUSTLING,NO TECHNIQUE, BOX OF ROCKS.

MANGENIUS KNEW..alas..............

Zombo said:

He's going with guys he knows, guys he has worked with, guys that have worked for him, guys that he has had success with ... Belichick does it, they all do. Winning cures everything.

I'm ready for the cure.

Zombo

They don't ALL have the same agent..That is unque to onlt the Browns..if its not..Show me

Peyton Manning would never come to Cleveland to run WCO..Where Peyton goes his offense travels

He wants a team thats Super Bowl ready..The Cleveland Browns will not be in that position any time soon boys and girls.

Lets not talk about this anymore please.

You all do know this is the 6th Lamonte client on the Browns staff and FO..This is really troubling.

Is it me or is Holmy trying to get all his boys on the Lerner gravey train..This is getting comical.

Hey Tony..Isn't karma a bitch,,hahaha..Hey Lerner when Tony was vilifying Mangini before he even hit the tarmac in CLE why didn't you call

ihe big boys at the PD and tell Grossi to get off EM's ass...ahh.. but when its about you,,,big problem right..Grossi got what was coming to him

make no mistake about that..Hey , Mary Kay..that sounds good ehh... has some bitter shoes to fill.

@tour2ma said:

Nothing against the Jets, but I cannot stand that fat-f**k of a HC of theirs...

I would have settled for their simply being eliminated from the play-offs, but this is so-o-o-o-o much sweeter...

Loving 2012 so far...

Funny thing is Mangini 10-6 6-10 9-7 had 2 winning seasons in NY

Rex 9-7 10-6 8-8

GOOD GRIEF

Bottom line.. Colt looked much better his rookie year with Daboll than Shumur this year..oh wait this is Colt's rookie year..Confusing this Shumur logic

This guy is killing it in Miami with Matt Moore..really..Once again The Browns screw it up..Hey but at least we have the WCO.

@hoorta said:

1) I never expected a contender this season, but go and explain how Dalton & Green have magically turned the Bengals into relevance, or Harbaugh with the same ground rules as Shurmur, having the 49ers do a 180. I'm not the only one saying Shurmur looks lost out there- the talking heads @ ESPN are saying the same thing, and if you've been following the Rams fans who dropped in this past week- they were happy to see him go. He's in the Red Zone, facing a depleted Rams secondary at the end of the game and doesn't have the balls to go for the winning TD- not once. I'm as old as you are, and I think I know what bad coaching looks like when I see it- and Shurmur sucks as a coach. He's getting his pants coached off every stinking week.

Shiite, Holmgren has already said he's bringing in an OC next year- so how's that for a vote of no confidence?

So, basically Holmgren is saying Shumur sucks at the OC because of his HC responsiblities..but you(the fans) will have to live with it this year..really Mike?

Mangini get the heave ho because according to the Walrus Wins and losses are the bottom line..Oh..unless you're hand picked guy is running the show..

Now a throw away season or 2 is fine,,,F**k seriously..disgusting and depressing..

McCoy has clearly regressed from last year..thats as plain as the nose on you're face

The question that begs to be answered is why..These coaches are supposedly an "offensive minded"

staff..How is this possible?

The fact that their answers(Colt-Shumur) totally conflict,there is a pretty big disconnect here.

Someone here is lieing and I think Shumur is the guy. Why would Colt lie when asked..

the correct lie would be "yes I can"..therefore young Colt speaks the truth.,Shumur

trying to cover his backside because its extrememly absurd not to be able to audible

if a front you seen will stop the play you've called..its done at all levels..HS, College and

of course in the NFL ALL THE TIME....Hell Brady, Manning audible out of every play to get their team in the correct play. Along with confirmation from another player that no hot reads or audibles are called IN GAMES. The question some media type needs to ask Colt

is if he audibled on the LOS at Texas..I'm sure he did..I think the kids confidence is shattered..and he will be the scapegoat for

a 3-13 season..

@kbndawg said:

Gotta get a coach that understands that 7 points is better than 3.

We had a real coach..He was fired so we could run the WCO..the worst scoring offense in the NFL..h and lets spend a little less time practicing special teams

I get it the bottom line in the NFL is "W's" and "L's"..Holmgren stated that when he let Mangini go.

He also hinted next year that Shumer will replaced as the OC...really..So is Mike coaching the team

and making those sorts of decisions.

Please no one mention Mangini and conservative play calling..Have you been watching this Browns team?

Last year this team was soo much better..The 2010 team smacked the s**t out of everybody..I guarentee

no team was looking forward to playing them....FF TO 2011 As one Texan player quoted "It was like Christmas out there"

WCO..Cleveland offense is now the laughing stock of the NFL..I think most teams know the play before its called

because of Shumur's tendencies.

I have NOT once seen Colt audible out of a play this year and anyone who doesn't think Colt looked better under

Daboll/Mangini should stop watching football immediatly.

There is only one word to describe the 2011 Browns

UNWATCHABLE

Mangini was fired for not winning enough..So is 5-11 acceptable this year..4-12..6-10?...Whats the number?

Squawking from the locker room..What makes you think this could not implode?

Considering 4 of the last five games involve Ravens and Steelers..UGH..We better have good team chemisrtry or its about to get very ugly.

You all do realize we are 30 million under the cap this year..We could have brought in some WCO help.

Austerity measures are in full affect in Cleveland..Except for game tickets and the such..Why..these

people know Cleveland Brown fans are off the hook loyal to all things Browns..Why should they spend, we will

keep putting up with this s**t and they know it..When people stop showing up to the stadium then maybe..

Whats even worse we had one of the top special teams guys in the NFL and we let him walk (seeley)

San Fran is one of the tops in the league..They should have offered this guys whatever he wanted.

I guess since he doesn't have the same agent as Holmgren,Shumer,Heckert and Jauron there was no

way they could have kept him.Did anyone notice that the Cowboys basically shut down the most

prolific offense and QB in the NFL..When is the last time you saw Brady look that bad..Oh yeah I

remember now..The last coach to put a home loss on NE in the regular season was WHO..Oh yeah right.

SO MANGINI BASICALLY GETS BAGGED SO WE CAN RUN WCO..4TH WORSE SCORING OFFENSE IN THE NFL..JUST GREAT...PATHETIC

If you go by preseason game film Sanford was much better

MT..While I usually agree with you're viewpoints in this case the Browns are penny pinching Hillis

They are 10's of millions under the cap..Took care of Joe long term..gave Jayme "the bust" Mitchell

new deal..seriously..Hey Hillis's position RB has BY FAR the shortest NFL careers..(maybe 3 years)..

This NFL is a multi billion dollar business and the minute he starts showing wear and tear they will

dump him in the blink of an eye..It is what it is..BUSINESS..You are paid on performance..He has performed

and now wants to be compensated for his production..TIME TO PAY THE MAN

You ever have a good case of Strep..that s**t is rough..period