This apparently has been brewing for decades. Just last year or two, we have been bringing up the drive by liberal media being in the tank for dems...... and nitwits like heck denied it to the end of their stay here. It's out in the open now. I watch an old WWII movie...the story of the FBI and tracking communist agents...etc... and it's like comminist subversive activity isn't illegal anymore, and it's now called the democratic party.

No, not at all. The games aren't really an apples to apples comparison anyway. I'm saying it is all about perception and pointing out that perception is very rose-colored when it comes to Manziel by a lot of people. Despite winning against Cincy and being 6-3 and in first place, Hoyer was trashed last year. Yet a very similar performance, in a losing effort, by Manziel is being praised as proof he is on his way to the HOF. There is a lot of comparison of stats between Manziel and other very successful quarterbacks in an effort to justify Manziel's mediocre at best play so far. I just wanted to give a similar stat line comparison. Let's face it, being better than he was last year is not the same as being good.

@lbc-mike said:We also had weeden at the helm so what? We had one of the shittiest offensive lines in the league and no running game. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. And a horrible defense, not just A mediocre or below average 1. and only one receiver who can catch the ball. WSS