@tour2ma said: LOL... quit sugar-coating it, Gip... Gotta be some scalpers around... Training camp tickets require you to obtain them on line. Your name is printed on the ticket. In order to get in you must show your ID which must match the name on the issued ticket. I was thinking of taking my daughter up to a session, but everything was "sold out", and we could not get tickets issued in our names. Whatever, it is all over now. Last day of open training camp was today

is this to harsh

nmills said:Puff Puff Pass Chief alright man, i guess you think i am crazy

i was getting desperate and beginning to accept character compromise too, especially under Savage. really glad Mangini is at the wheel now. dude has integrity. on topic, Ray was apparently born to be an NFL LB. truly an enduring and awesome player (even if we did get suckered into clicking his link first. clever marketing) player durability is underrated imo and adds to the Clay Mathews argument.