@gumby73 said:

ah great, now another Buff-a-homo fan to join Mahom-a-homo fan..We will have to make this quick cause Josh Allen may miss your barn & take out your rabbit ear wifi antenna . That btw would make espn's top 10..  A) Do all you Bills fans meet in the same mother's basement to give us the same tyrod scouting report? B.)How many offensive weapons could you count after McCoy,with Tyrod? C) Count ours.. than D)ever heard of Todd Haley?   

Remember that time you tried to use corny insults because someone explained what they saw week in and week out. I don't live in Buffalo ??. Anyway we had Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods. I wonder why Woods had a career year after leaving the Bills.?? 

@the-gipper said:

And, just WTF do you think that is?

He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

@jbluhm86 said:

Bills fans must be excited, at least. Now they finally have their star Greg Little 2.0 WR to pair up with their rookie QB who can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Just wait till you see TT in action. I don't know what Allen will amount to (career wise) But I'm well aware of who and what TT is.

@the-gipper said:

I think the Browns may have a better overall offensive line...so that may help some.  Plus, now, I think the Browns will have a lot of "Outlet" options:  Duke, Landry,  Njoku, Devalve....maybe even Hyde.   Not sure he had that in Buff.    But, OK, he probably holds the ball too long and takes sacks.   Better than the ints. the last guy kept pitching though.

The weapons the Browns have surrounded TT with can't hurt. I'm not sure if his height is the issue but he misses open guys very often and ends up checking it down to the RB or taking a sack.

@the-gipper said:

So...by your definition the guy that broke the playoff drought would have to be a good QB.   Right?  And that is just what TT did, no?

If you watched Billsgames you would know that 3 or four games were won on an interception/fumble recovery by the defense. I'm not saying TT is bad but he's mediocre at best. If the Bills had an average QB vs. the Jags they win that playoff game. I already threw this stat out there and it seems like you don't mind it but 8 games he threw for less than 200 yards and he had a 56 yard game in one of those and 65 in another. If that's your definition of good I can argue with you. But to me that's awful.

@the-gipper said:

"WE" ?   Do you have a mouse in your pocket?   You mean the Bills.....(assuming you don't draw a paycheck from them).

But you are still in the same boat as the Browns were:   needing both a veteran bridge QB plus a  top prospect...which I think you can now get.

Who is your Golden Gate?  Your Mackinac?  Your Royal Gorge?  Your New River?

I think this puts you in the Sam Bradford/Josh McCown Sweepstakes.....where we were just a few days ago.

That's been the case since Jim Kelly. You don't have a 17 year playoff drought with a good QB 

We now have 12 and 22 we traded with the Bengals. Hopefully we pick the right guy. The Bills have been in QB hell for a very long time.

@the-gipper said:

Well....he does take a lot of sacks.   Was that his fault....or the result of a pretty bad OL?  On the other hand, he threw very few picks.  Our guy last year could almost always be counted on to throw an interception at a critical time.  I think the Browns easily could have won 4-5 games if Kizer had the same TD/INT ratio as Taylor.   But, if that were the case, he would still be here and Taylor would not.

It's not the OL he holds the ball for a very long time I think the number was 3.71 seconds ( I may be off on that a bit) if he sees the guy and he is wide open he will throw it but he has no anticipation throws. He doesn't throw picks because he doesn't throw it. He had 8 games where he threw for less than 200 yards last season. He threw for 56 yards vs the Saints. He threw for more than 250 yards 3 times. Again I agree he's  better as a stop gap/bridge than Kizer. But he's nothing more than a .500 or below QB. I'm excited for your QB of the future and happy TT isn't with us anymore.

My perspective on Tyrod is a little different than the OP's and I am also a Bills fan that watched every game he played. In the 3 years he started if the team fell behind by 10 points at any point in the game we never came back. He has 1 300 yard passing game in his career and it took OT to get it. TT is a team guy and a hard worker but... Most games he throws for under 200 yards and doesn't see guys running wide open. Landry is a great WR but TT won't be able to utilize him correctly because he rarely throws over the middle and never throws anyone open. He also holds on to the ball longer than any QB in the league causing many many sacks.

http://www.wgr550.com/articles/opinion/dear-browns-fans

Luckily for you guys he's just a backup plan for the guy that you will end up drafting. In our case he was "the guy" and he's nothing more than a bridge/backup in reality.