@stang6626 said:Delhomme just shrugged it off as if to say " Oh well" and Seneca took himself out. what? you're NFL quaterbacks......We could use another Bernie Kosar. Haven't found one yet. These guys are not the answer. What more can they do ? Delhome shouldn't be out there esp since he is injured - he knows, we know but the coaches dont ! Seneca gave us a better chance to win - too bad he got injured. If the coaches had prepared Colt enough to hand over the ball to Hillis or hit a TE then we could have tried to rescue something or atleast given the defense more rest or atleast had the slim option of Jake getting healthier for the Steelers game. Looking at how not too many people are complaining against the WR's, I take it that we are assuming it is the QB's that need to be blamed or we have totally lost faith in them and dont even want to waste time discussing them.

@hoorta said:Actually Chuck, it's the 46 year locust and counting. If you're not nearing retirement age, you're too young to remember the last time the Browns won it all. Lions and Browns- the last of the old line teams never to make the Big Dance- who's gonna get there first? Well, it's been a crazy year so far-how 'bout them Cowboys, Bengals, Chargers, Saints? But at 1-4 I don't exactly like the Browns chances. Well, in all reality, 1-4 is about what most people would have anticipated out of the Browns at this point. 2-3 would have been considered above pace. Those other teams you mention are the ones pulling their hair out. They were all supposed to be division/Super Bowl contenders. It is still early, and they may yet get there, but right now, none of them look any better than the Browns. On the other hand, Kansas City, Tampa, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta are all above their heads supposedly. And think of how the Browns schedule really got "tougher" than was anticipated: They have played the 3-1 Bucs, the 3-1 Chiefs, the 4-1 Falcons, the 4-1 Ravens, and coming up are the 3-1 Steelers. the only "mediocre" team on their schedule so far have been the Bengals at 2-3. And, the Browns gave every one of those 1 loss teams a scuffle....having leads in the 4th quarter against each one.