@spectralcow said:

Serious question here: What lured Reid to the Chiefs in this past off-season? You have to admit, that team was a MESS last year. It's easy to look back now and say that they weren't in that bad a situation, but at the time, it looked BAD. Is Kansas City a dream destination? Do it look last year like they had a great front office? Sure, they definitely had some talent, but the Browns have some talent. The Browns have the league's leading WR and a few other Pro Bowlers. That's not nothing. Did the Chiefs offer Reid a pile of money?

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm asking. I keep hearing people ask why anyone in their right minds would want to come to coach Cleveland, but let's explore that. Big name, good coaches HAVE gone to teams in dire situations before. Why did those coaches agree to that in those situations?

If I'm not mistaken....... 9 ALL-PRO ? Their front office is a weeeee bit more organized then this group......and yes... a whole lot of Frankins

@cdl15 said:

I'll take a 2nd tier coach to the garbage we just threw out.

Chudzinski WAS a 2nd tier candidate. A top candidate would have got a 2nd year. 13 million for him? Jimmie will have to make the next HC with any talent a partner

Maybe Gruden or that ex Squeeler coach might want to own the browns?? NAAAAAAA

The question should be....Who would WANT to be the next head coach of the Browns? Who is desperate enough? Who needs a head coach job on their resume? Who will do anything for the right amount of money?

I'm going to laugh at the posts....THE BROWNS SHOULD HIRE ______________ and no kiddies....Gruden and That ex Squeeler coach won't be coming to Cleveland this year last year or any other year as long as the Browns remain a joke and the front office still cluster fucks they way around

Typical Cleveland stumble and fumble. The franchise that is a laughing stock of America. Ward and Mack are counting the days when they can play for a WINNER!!!and Haden can't be far behind. The Browns get bottom tiered free agents that they have to pay All Pro money to, now they will need to top Cudzinski's 4/ $13 millon contract to attract a 2nd tier coach. Only players and coaches that are desperate or get handed a BOAT load of money would ever think of coming to Cleveland

@topdawg31 said:

Looks like all the experts including Jim Brown knew what they were talking about.

Kneel when you say his name......

@miktoxic said:

put the meth pipe down and we might actually understand what you are talking about.

OK big guy..... another dumbass know nothing....west sider...right?....Even in the movies Cleveland makes excuses.... don't tax the mind buttercup you may have miss work in the morning

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Maybe not, but you seem to have "dumbest shit ever stated" on lock at the moment.

I also think we should have gotten more.

We could have milked them for a middle round pick given we had more time.

The Colts went into that draft wanting to get Andrew Luck but are on record stating that they also loved Richardson. So essentially, they traded a 2014 1st round pick for a 2012 first round pick, straight up and also didn't have to pay any of his $13 million dollar bonus.

They perceived Trent to be a top tier talent and were also desperate at RB. We did not perceive him to be special, had no need for him, and are looking to build via the draft.

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"So, yes, I believe we could have gotten more out of the trade"

Honestly...How on God's green island in the Pacific did you flunk out of GM school? The way you talk you should have GM'd your way to 5 super bowls and drafted a dozen hall of famers. Cleveland fans think ( fill in the blank) coach will come to Cleveland or (fill in the blank) free agent will sign or bitch because they feel the front office didn't "try" hard enough to sign whomever and then whine because the Browns have to overpay and pay starter money to other teams backups... With the luck of the Browns they will pull some bull shit miracle, finish 7-9 and draft 17th while the Colts go to the playoffs and the Richardson's pick is 30th

@shep said:

13 carries for 35 yards. . Now he's with the Colts playing with a back gaining more yards behind the same line.

I just can't take the excuses for this guy anymore. He isn't special. He's just a guy. We absolutely fleeced the Colts.

And the right side of our line is just HORRIBLE. I can't believe how bad Schwartz looks. He's like a statue.

"First it was inexperience and a minor knee clean out. Then it was ribs. This year it was bad blocking"

More like:

Jake Taylor: Oh, Skip, they were a different team last year.

Lou Brown: Taylor, its not your job to make excuses. Thats all you

guys do good! Its either a *leg* thing or a *spiritual* thing, or

a *psychological* thing, or a *heart attack*!

Jake Taylor: Who used heart attack?

Lou Brown: Me.

@erie-dawg said:

Before some of you start celebrating why not wait until week 17 to see who fleeced who.. or even 2-3 years.

We still have to draft what we were compensated for him and find his replacement.

Shouldn't be hard to find one in the draft and we have nailed every back we have ever drafted since 99.

It would be easier to get one in free agency....you know how every big time free agent is just dying to move to that great city on the lake and play for a perennial winner!!! And the Browns won't even have to overpay for him....He will see all those all pro's and future hall of famers and just sprout a wood he'll be so excited!!

@sheepdog said:

I would have liked to get another pick for Richardson but if this is all we could get then I will take it. It's better than getting a 2nd rounder. All we can hope for now is that the Colts don't make the playoffs so we are picking in the first half of the draft with their pick.

And I would love to date Heidi Klum...doesn't make it realistic or even wishfull thinking...only a dream. He BARELY had 1st round stats and until he does the scale is tilted the Browns direction. The Browns are LUCKY they got a 1st rounder....I bet you want the Browns to get a 1st rounder for Weeden too right??

Right before they release him right?

@miktoxic said:

yeah of course there is dickface.

how about a:

1. first and second rounder

2. a first and third rounder

3. a first and 4th rounder

etc.

OR how about this:

1. a first rounder and a player

2. a first rounder a 5th rounder and a player

etc. etc.

"man you gotta be the new 'biggest asshole' on the board."

But you're still one dumbass....it's soooo easy to troll for numbnuts like you...I don't even need to bait the hook... He wasn't worth the 3rd pick in the draft but you want more, maybe he wasn't even the best back in the draft (proven so far) but you "think" they should have gotten more? Next you will be whining like the bitch you are that the Browns didn't get a 1st rounder before they release Weeden...Please...the next time you have a "thought" keep it a secret....You won't look like such a moron when you hit post.

Don't worry sugarbump no one will overtake you as biggest asshole on the board

@browns149 said:

all that and he still played like crap

@poeticg said:

Calm Down. It was one game. Against the 49ers at home. On a new team, new coach, ... it's been 3 days. Wow

"new playbook"

How tought is....Take Handoff Follow Fullback?? or as Vince would say....Take Handoff...Run to Daylight??? But boy what a workhouse he was eh??

Let's see.....Browns 5-13 with Trent Richardson 1-0 without him....but the big story..... The Browns better hire a Nanny for Josh Gordon

He's one late night nap away from a total ban

@topdawg31 said:

I wonder what Holmgren has to say now, does he still think TR is the 2nd coming of Jim Brown?

Richardson isn't even the 2nd coming of William Green

@beefjerky said:

And Bradshaw with only 6 more carries (more were added at the end of the game, they were split evenly most of the game), had 19 for 95 yards 5.0 ypc 1 td longest gain was 27.

Trent's longest gain was 7. I honestly was never impressed in any of his college games, he looked sluggish.

, but it's clear every RB from alabama is overrated due to their always elite oline and blocking TEs.

"I still think we should have gotten more back for him"

Wait....I'm confused....You were never impressed with him, you say he was overrated but think the Browns should have gotten more then a 1st rounder for him?? Is there something higher than a 1st rounder??? How the hell can you get more than a 1st rounder for a guy who obviously should have gone in the 2nd????

The Browns stole Indy B-L-I-N-D

@miktoxic said:

if you only knew sir.

i've got more than you do with you're whole head of fake hair.

pishaw.pishaw, my angry ugly friend.

1/2 my posts are to reel in suckers like you just to blab at them all night long when i'm drunk.

"look!! i got a bite!!"

And that's all you do to give your life meaning???? sad..a total pity and a waste of O2....and looking back you must be either drunk, stupid or both....maybe just ignorant...angry? not in the least I learned along time ago not to let something I have no control over run ruin or control my life. It's laughable someone with so much self proclaimed "knowledge/creativity growing on one of my grey sac hairs" hasn't figured that out for themselves

@poeticg said:

All my Steeler friends are just shaking their heads. When the Goddamn Steelers Fans are shaking their fucking heads.... just fucking wow. We'll never recover from this until Lombardi is done. He's a joke. I could care or give a fuck less about the handful of pussies that can't take me whining about this kind of shit all the time. There are people out there that feel just like I do... as a matter of fact.

Walk down the streets of Alliance Ohio, 20 minutes NE from the Pro Football Hall of Fame and there you will find, what I describe as, Lombardi's Lobotomies. A once proud and hopeful pack of people, donning the orange and brown, fierce and determined. It's like a sergeant has been taken down right in front of us.

Where do you live? Look at where I live. I'm telling you that it's much different if you are in the North East right now. It's going to get cold soon. Cabin Fever makes us Crazy. You just pissed off a bunch of rabid Browns fans that are about to be on lockdown for a couple of months watching their runningback on another team, for another championship, while we're watching our draftpick become later and later... . Silent voices are not heard, or even worse; misunderstood.

"So quit telling me that you are an idiot and a sheep and show some balls and speak out against it"

Kind of hard to speak out when it was the BEST decision a Front Office for the Cleveland Browns has made since drafting Joe Thomas....or since releasing bernie Kosar

@poeticg said:

I hate this. Trent was our workhorse. Traded for what will be nearly a second round pick. I want Lombardi GONE. I want Banner GONE. And if Chudzinski is as dumb as he looks for going along with trading his best player, I want him GONE as well. Do you hear me HASLAM? Do you fucking hear your fans!? Cleveland doesn't like this, and it doesn't matter WHO you pick with that pick. We wanted TRENT HERE... SMH

please post a video of you burning your season tickets until then.....your ability to cut and paste is B-O-R-I-N-G

@poeticg said:

I'll be back but I just found this real quick before I go...

97-year-old Browns fan reacts to trade

newsnet5.com

updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET

Bette Mizer loves to talk with anyone about her beloved Cleveland Browns, but she's not happy about the decision to trade Trent Richardson.Mizer is 97-years-old so she has plenty of experience when it comes to dealing with the ups and downs of the brown and orange.

"We just lost Trent Richardson who we just hired this last year and he's gone far away to the Indianapolis Colts," Mizer said. Mizer, of Massillon, volunteers once a week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. She greets visitors, asking them which NFL team is their favorite. There is no doubt which team she likes the most. Her lifelong love affair dates back more than 90 years, when at the age of 6 she started going to Browns games with her father.When the Browns won their last championship in 1964, Mizer was in the stadium.

"The mood was fantastic. Why wouldn't it be?" she said. Mizer's mood wasn't great when she learned of the Richardson trade. The running back was becoming her favorite player after the Browns didn't re-sign her previous favorite. "I always liked Phil Dawson, the kicker, but now he's gone," she said. Mizer explained that she'll always support the Browns, adding that "she's too old to change teams now. "She hopes the new regime has a plan in place to bring home a Super Bowl before she turns 100. And then, she repeated a familiar refrain known by Browns fans across the globe: "Wait until next year."

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@miktoxic said:

funny how things work out that way.

'Cuse me? I said PICKUP on game day numbnuts...I wouldn't think even you were dumb enough to drive 240 to pick up tickets then drive 240 back to see the game but then, I've read your posts so smart isn't in your bailiwick

@brownb499 said:

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PM me...face value is $290 each and I can meet you at the Gander Mtn in Twinsburg anytime this weekend.

Club seats for the thurs. Night Buffalo game should be a great game...their starters against our practice squad

Oh...and bring cash...I'm old school too

I'm leaving tomorrow for Pittsburgh to see my daughter. Pirates games Saturday & Sunday and the company she works for has a box forSunday's Steeler game I can't believe I'll be there to watch the squeelers raise their record to 0-3. I have to find someone to go to the Bills game as my wife is a Surgical Nurse and is on call Tues Wed and Thurs nights... I live 120 miles away so any pickup would have to be game day