@cantonlegend said:keep tellin yourself that because you're the only one that believes that. steelers fans may think the ravens are a better team, but that doesnt simply erase the history just like the OSU/michigan rivalry. just because michigan sucks big donkey balls right now doesnt take away from the rivalry. the steelers feel the same way. cleveland may not be the best competition every year but it doesnt take away from the rivalry i can see that you havent been a steelers fan for very long so im going to assume you're a bandwagon fan and move along I generally don't go out of my way to defend myself, but I'll make an exception here. No, I've been a Steeler fan for life. Born and raised in Pittsburgh. Lived there for the first 35 years of my life until I moved out to the country, then to the desert. Job thing. I remember my dad closing the curtain in the living room on Sundays, blocking out all sunlight for the game. I went to Steeler lunches during the 70's when I was a kid, got autographed pennants from Lambert, Ham, Stallworth and Franco. Still have them. I remember a guy I worked with back when the stains bailed out of dirty, dirty Cleveland - he was a stains fan. I don't know if he was more pissed than I was. I remember watching the first Steelers/stains game with the new franchise. It was prime time, the rebirth of the rivalry. We won. ... and won, and won.... Don't get me wrong - I want the rivalry. I want to be able to trade even shots with yinz putzs here but fact is - it's not there. Like you said, it's history. Nothing more than history. I don't take pleasure in saying that either. Hope this makes sense. Peace Regards... ... an'at .