If they don’t fire woods, I’ll be forced to stop buying tickets.
 

I don’t know how it’s taken an analytics department 3 years to realize that playing the softest zone in NFL history allows the likes of Bailey Zappe to put 38 points on you, or allows Joe Flacco to come back from the dead and put 17 on you in two minutes . . . All this with what is a super talented backfield . . . Do they teach NFL defense at Harvard? 

I could take or leave Stefanski . . . In a perfect world I would like to see him be the OC and someone else take the HC job based purely on his boneheaded game day decisions. I like his offense, but that’s pretty much it. 

No matter what they do anywhere else in the building it seems our only hope for a winning season next year is that deshaun will be like the deshaun of old for 17 games. 

Just watched that garbage. Kevin still can’t stop shooting this team in the foot with his head scratchers and refusal to accept three points. You bring in brissett to throw  a deep ball . . . The one part of his game that has been glaringly bad all year?? WTF dude. 
 

Our pass D has to be the softest there’s ever been on an NFL field. We spot them 10 free yards every snap by playing 15 yards off the receivers. The middle of the field is still wide open all the time because we can’t do anything but play weak ass zone . . . And everyone is still confused after half the snaps. My wife’s vagina could coach up a stronger pass defense. 
 

I don’t want them to fire Kevin, but I wouldn’t be upset if they did at this point. His game day management is still fucking atrocious, and it’s been three fucking seasons. He gets out coached consistently in the second half, and out coached consistently by any coach who has a successful NFL resume. He apparently refuses to take any responsibility for or make any adjustments at all on the defense. 
 

If his boss didn’t make even dumber decisions than he does there would be no defense for this team to have gotten significantly worse since he won coach of the year two years ago.  FUCK

It was nice to see Njoku take over that drive in the 3rd 

I don’t know if the other top tier rushers are getting this same kind of treatment or not, but I kinda get it. No one wants to watch Myles sack the opposing QB every other play. We’d all like it, but It’s just not good for the game and would be no fun to watch.  

The 2 problems I have are that 

1) They let some EGREGIOUS holds go uncalled on Myles and if he gets injured “fighting through” one of them, that’s some major bullshit. They should be at least calling those or he will end up on IR at some point because of it.

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2) You gotta stop with these ticky tack holding calls we always seem to get at the most inopportune times. Our line better be given the benefit of the doubt, especially if they’re going up against a quality front. But no, we’ve had all these drives stalled because of some holding call on one of our wide receivers on the other side of the field on a running play, or some other guy not even near the ball, or Teller pancakes the shit outta some loser? You gotta let those slide if you’re absolutely going to refuse to protect Myles even a little bit.  

Dude’s a muppet ? 

No definitely not a Baker bro lol. Just hard to blame the head coach for the situation he was put in at the start of the season. He was basically told to go tell his team this . . 
 

“Hey guys, I know it’s not ideal, but we’ll be starting a backup QB for most of the season.  On the bright side if you’re able to win us enough games to keep us in the playoff race our starter who hasn’t played in two years might be able to shake enough of the rust off  to squeak in. On another note, Joe is still the Defensive Coordinator.” 
 

That’s a pretty smelly bag of shit to try and sell someone LOL.
 

Obviously, I don’t think Baker was going to do much here either so it really put everyone in the tough spot of having a decent team, but no QB. And that situation goes back to Jimm-uhhh having a football guy GM and an analytics guru jockeying for position when we had that first pick. Now here we are watching the all-pro QB we could have taken beat the brakes off us in the second half.
 

To Dorsey’s credit I do think baker was the perfect pick to get a team of nobody’s out of a 1-31 skid, but just was never gonna be the guy to lead a team of competent professionals to the promised land. 

I really wanted to keep Stefanski around another year for continuity’s sake but this team clearly wasn’t buying into this season, but it’s hard to put all the blame on Stefanski for that when the owner basically trades the season away before it starts. Once again it starts at the top.
 

It’s why we’re seeing all these other teams that sucked finally turn the corner and here we are 3-7 again. Terrible owner who can’t get out of his own way. 

It’s about time for a bit of broken coverage 

That delay of game just broke me . . . JFC

Another year . . . another dumpster fire.
 

Maybe we’ll draft another undersized CB and WR, some guy on defense who has all the physical tools . . . but just can’t play football, some random specialty position like ball holder on field goals in the fifth round. And draft actual positions of need in the 6th and 7th.
 

We’ll sign some old veteran here for a paycheck, who’ll play half ass. We’ll sign some guy who’s actually decent but he’ll blow his Achilles the first week of camp. We’ll release some guy that was stuck behind some Berry draft pick on the depth chart for three years, and he’ll have the first all-pro season of his hall of fame career for some other team.
 

We’ll keep the coaching staff that refuses to accept they’re not gonna outsmart the rest of the league with dumb fucking offensive play calls at terrible times. We’ll have Woods out there with a defense that doesn’t even know where the fuck they’re sposed to be on the football field. The only change they’ll make is to fire the ST coach and hire some guy who somehow does worse . . . 
 

And my dumbass we’ll send them a check for another season’s worth of tickets. I’ll have optimism in my eyes and hope in my heart for the new season . . .  this year will be different. Even though we did all the same dumb shit we did every offseason before . . . I’ll buy into the preseason hype . . . Only to have this team rip my sack off and step on my balls again. 
 

And just to put the icing on the cake . . . Deshaun will inevitably be unable to control his manly urges and will succumb to his desire to rub his ball bag all over some poor woman . . .  it’s just how it goes as a browns fan. The laws of probability say that we accidentally have to be good at some point. I’m just hoping it’s in my lifetime  . . . It’s the only hope that keeps my fandom alive. 

We always look out coached . . . Absolutely no adaptation from this staff.  

Whenever we fire up the “fire everyone”machine in Cleveland I ask myself “Does the coach have the players to win?”
For once, I think they do. 

Sure our IDL is weak, but is every unit on every winning team in the NFL perfect? Do all winning coaches in the NFL have the perfect player groups across their teams?

OR?

Are good coaches/organizations able to put their players in the best positions to make plays/win games based on those players’ abilities and skill sets. Our staff for whatever reason can’t make this happen . . . On a pretty talented roster.  What do you think Belichick’s record would be with this squad against the schedule we played?

We’re really gonna blame Brissett and Tommy Togiai for opposing wide receivers just milling around the field wide open all year? Uncle Rico could’ve had the same day Zappe had yesterday throwing to guys  taking leisurely strolls wide open across First Energy field all day, Its the glaring reason we are 2-4 and not 5-1. 
 

I didn’t go into the season with many expectations but I did expect our touted secondary to be able to cover at least one guy at least one time ? 

The scary part is coach just keeps making the same mistakes over and over again . . . 
 

Big Kev still refusing to take the 3 points early in games, still running empty backfield sets and having Chubb chill on the sidelines for half the game, still pretending Brisket is Watson, terrible clock management at the end of halves and games, still hasn’t fired Joe woods. Stop doing the same shit and expecting different results . . . Maybe I’m the dummie who keeps driving to the stadium expecting to one day see more W’s than L’s

“Why didn’t he (ward) own it then?”

”My name is Tyvis Powell” . . . ?

It should come from guys like Ward who are getting paid 100 million, but there is obviously zero leadership on this defense. I sure hope they figure this out before we play the more quality opponents ?‍️ 

They left Joe Woods . . . 

I have two questions 

Why do the Texans walk away from this unscathed?

Where does Mike Florio’s career go from here?

@sdbacker80 said:

 Baker hurt this team last year and this coming year by not playing like the #1 overall pick that he was…instead Joe Burrow played like it and the Bengals went to the SB.

Exactly this . . .

I watched cowherd’s podcast with Cabot and she talked about baker’s attitude at the SR bowl and how she asked browns brass  about her concerns and they said that “that’s the attitude we’re looking for. We want the crotch grabbing, flag planting type of mf’er.” Which was a great attitude to pull the franchise out of the abyss with a bunch of less than stellar players. 

Fast forward to ‘20 and Baker was never able to grow past his pride into someone who could lead a team with a bunch of players that were arguably better than him. It didn’t help that Dorsey and the brass treated him like the Jesus of qb’s and let him have so much say in the direction of the team after Hue. Then the new regime took over and he no longer had the sway he once had, which I feel he still thought he should. Now he’s been put in his place by brass and he’s on a team with players that outshine his talent which led him to be defensive, to never accept any blame, to let the media run with the “it’s obj’s fault” after obj was injured and never saying a peep, all of which hurt his relationship with the entire locker room. I can’t remember anyone on the team saying anything good about  Baker other than typical media pleasantries after that whole fiasco.

I think the most detrimental thing he did with his relationship with the browns and ultimately his career was getting that second opinion on his shoulder and not getting the surgery after Watt completely wrecked his shoulder. In hindsight it was pretty clear the team doctor and brass were trying to get him to shut it down . . . But his pride and attitude would not allow for it. 

Then he spent the rest of the season searching for excuses for his poor performance. Leaking injury info, the obj saga (which he helped create), complaining on the coaches and scheme. I wondered why Stefanski was so adamant with the he’s ready to go and ran the offense like Baker wasn’t hurt, but it was obviously because Baker was being such a tool about being “healthy”. Stefanski should’ve shut his ass down anyway of course. 

Sorry for the rant but I have been trying to reconcile this whole thing in my mind. I really like Baker and wish he could’ve been the guy, I think he was the perfect pick to pull the Browns out of the gutter, but not the guy to lead a top tier roster to the promised land. Judging by the outpouring from the rest of the team they all felt the same. ? It’s was a crazy roller coaster ride that I enjoyed until it left us stuck at the bottom hoping Seattle will send us a coke and a bag of Doritos for him and his salary  

I am disappointed that we weren’t able to have that Cinderella story of drafting our guy and rolling with him to the ring, but I am excited to see what Watson can do over the next five years. I’m not buying all this hyped up outrage from all these hypocrites on TV . . . They all line up everyday at the teats of the NFL cash cow, so they can all spare me. No franchise is immune to the shenanigans of NFL players. It’s only a stain on Watson’s reputation as far as I’m concerned.  I feel better now . . . Let’s go brownies 

@gorka said:

They haven't wasted any time ridiculing this franchise.

The Browns will never live down trading for Deshaun Watson - Sports Illustrated

Maybe some of us, and, again, we’re talking to the Browns’ front office here, just reach a point where the losses drown out the last bit of common sense we have.

 

What a complete trash hit piece. Dude just wanted us to continue being the “lovable losers” for all of eternity. Every franchise in this league signed a player who did some shady shit, so spare me the dramatics. Maybe if this fuckstick hates the NFL, and how it operates so damn much,  he should stop making a living writing about it . . . fucking hypocrite. 

I formally submit my apologies to the browns front office 

Andrew Berry out here dodging bullets like

This was a master class in fucking everything up . . . Great job front office. 

Johnson is gonna get a nice contract from someone for  ‘22