Confirmed that I'm able to watch TV on firstrowsports.eu - I had better results with Chrome.

Note that when you start watching it pops up an add prompting you to download the right codec. I just closed the add and then my video started without issue - translation = you don't need to download the codec.

2 years ago, I was able to listen to the Browns on SportsTalkCleveland's website. The guys did a delayed broadcast where they discussed the game. It was great. I would love to at least have that option, but I couldn't find that last year. Please let me know if anyone has any ideas. FYI - I am no where near Northern Ohio.

atdhe.net is gone - site has been seized by Homeland Security - ouch.

There are some replacements like atdhe.tv and some others like atdhenet.tv atdhe.ws

None of these sites have Cleveland vs Cincinnati in their lineup right now despite having other games listed. Has anyone out there found a place to watch the games this year.

3 teams in the top 10 and congratulations . . . . we're it!

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...mp;sportCat=nfl

Basically the guy lists criteria for a class level one disastrous loss for a sports city. I won't ruin it by telling you where Cleveland lands, but you probably won't be surprised. It looks like the vikings have passed us thanks to the recent interception debacle.

Graham is easily the best QB statistically. He also played in a championship 8 or 10 of his seasons of pro football. There really is no argument against that except for the huge sentimentality I fell for Kosar.

As far as other Browns QBs, Sipe and Kosar are pretty much the same. I think it comes down to when you were a 10 year old, 1980 or 1986.

This is an awesome website. I found it when trying to find out who the best Bears QB of all time was:

http://armchairgm.wikia.com/index.php?titl...%2C_Version_1.0

It seems unlikely that we would choose a runningback that would actually pan out. RB's are one of those high risk positions to pick in the first. It would probably make more sense to pick a DB in the first round and then use our wealth of picks to pick up some offensive players further to the middle of the pack.

I understand that one has to move fast on these things, but if someone slowed a decision on the signing they only missed the target by 3 hours! Is 3 hours of this FA's wasted time (during these guys' first offseason together) enough to make every FA decide we are the 3 stooges?

I think it is the worst season ever. Maybe its not the worst statistically, but there is something about the way the organization just doesn't seem to give a crap that makes me very upset about this one. I know its paper thin, but I have felt reassured this week that at least someone has lost their job and Lerner is willing to meet with some upset fans.

There have been a lot of bad seasons, but i've always had a little bit of pride in our team - the only thing I'm proud of this year is my own dedication to a complete lost cause. I went to the Bears game in Chicago last week, telling my Bears-fan friends that I actually thought we might see some things that would convince you the Browns were actually trying to lose the game. I didn't see anything on offense to convince me otherwise.

Defense was another story - they are better.

Its gotta be Quinn, right? I'm guessing that with the easier opponents Detroit, Jax, KC, and Oakland on the schedule that he will win 2 or 3 games and then everyone will feel much better about him. He'll either get traded after that or become the starter for next season.

If they really want to avoid the 70% of snaps thing, they can just snap it to Cribbs more often.

Since we've got a very special history with them, I would consider voting for the Broncos as some kind of rival above both Baltimore and Cincy. I pretty much want to see the Broncos get smothered in every game and never be given a chance to come up for air.

I love to hate the Steelers, but like another poster said - I respect their organization. I live in Dallas and will be secretly hoping the Steelers take it to the Cowboys this weekend.

As for the Ravens I can't really acknowledge they exist, so I nothing them. Since they don't exist then Pittsburgh has to win but a tie would be my first choice.

I'm glad the Bengals are around because they still manage to make us look better than them. The only strong feelings I have for the Bengals are about the fact that I'm envious of their super bowl losses. Of all the potential rivals for the Browns, I'm most likely to root for Cincy.

I wish Baltimore would move to the East, Miami to the South and Houston into the North - then we could at least get the cities from the old AFC Central back.

Found an answer:

2 years ago we played the NFC South, so we've got the NFC North on the schedule next season

Am I thinking about this right?

This year we played the NFC East

Last year we played the NFC West

Next year we will play either the NFC North or South - anyone remember which division we played 2 years ago?

How bout for the AFC

This year we played the AFC South

Last year we played the AFC East

Next year we will play the AFC West?

I live in Dallas and am thinking about possible road trips to Kansas City, or New Orleans

Everything else is so freaking far except Houston and I've already seen us down there.

Actually KC and NO are pretty far too but not impossible for a weekend trip.

I did some reading on the board and found some of the other posts on this topic. I think it is interesting that it took Cowher longer to win a SB than Marty ever had a chance to coach at one team. However, Cowher did make it to a SB earlier (ever).

Frankly, I don't think as Browns fans that we should be choosy. This is not an organization with any recent history of success, so a few 10 win seasons would probably do a lot for the image of the team and help us get our heads above a few of the Houstons and Baltimores out there.

Its interesting that no one can make an argument why Marty wont win, just that he wont win in the playoffs. So you'd rather have Cowher because he's won a super bowl - valid, but if we can't get him, Is there a better choice that would get us closer to that game?

I admit that I'm partial to Marty because of the history. I'm a 30 something Browns fan who was 10-11-12yrs old when he was coaching us to AFC championship games and there is a huge soft spot in me for those days. I still feel bad about the way he was let go from the Browns back then and I think this would be a great redemption story for both the Browns and Marty. I mean think about how it would feel if he did win a SB here. The guy was fired for winning 14 games, don't you think he wants to come into the league and show the Chargers how close they were to winning it all? Don't you think it would be the ultimate 'I told you so' to the Modell family if he could come in here and win the big one after all these years?

Those aren't very rational football reasons to hire him, but I get a little weak thinking about the possibility. I'm going to go take a bite of a dog bone now. . .

I get really excitied when I think that Shottenheimer could come back - I get a, shall we say, GLEAM

I just joined this board to find out if other fans were excited about this possibility because I think Lerner should can Crennel and Savage and let Marty do most of the work with some flake of a GM to take up space.