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  • ATOM ATOMA One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    get baker some more commercials 

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      The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

      Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

      In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

      My answers are No and Yes.

      The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

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      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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      @ballpeen said:

      Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

      Wait, how the hell is that a yes or no question? ?

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        The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

        Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

        In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

        My answers are No and Yes.

        The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

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        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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        @ballpeen said:

        The Josh Allen bar has been set. 

        Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

        Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

        presser after Brown & Orange scrimmage...

        Does this sound like a QB betting on himself & his team winning? 

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        Let's Go Bake ! ?‍?   

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          @ballpeen said:

          The Josh Allen bar has been set. 

          Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

          Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

          presser after Brown & Orange scrimmage...

          Does this sound like a QB betting on himself & his team winning? 

             Poker chips Card game GIF - Poker chips Card game Poker GIFs   fall where they may..

          Let's Go Bake ! ?‍?   

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          @gumby73 said:

          presser after Brown & Orange scrimmage...

          Does this sound like a QB betting on himself & his team winning? 

             Poker chips Card game GIF - Poker chips Card game Poker GIFs   fall where they may..

          Let's Go Bake ! ?‍?   

          And why not...he’s got a great rookie deal (much better than Lamar and even Josh)

          He has more endorsements than most guys and he’s a very marketable personality. 

          And he’s surrounded by a lot of talent.

          He should do really well this coming season.  

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            The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

            Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

            In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

            My answers are No and Yes.

            The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

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            bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by
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            @ballpeen said:

            The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

            Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

            In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

            My answers are No and Yes.

            The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

            If you look at the numbers baker deserves more.  He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind

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              @gumby73 said:

              presser after Brown & Orange scrimmage...

              Does this sound like a QB betting on himself & his team winning? 

                 Poker chips Card game GIF - Poker chips Card game Poker GIFs   fall where they may..

              Let's Go Bake ! ?‍?   

              And why not...he’s got a great rookie deal (much better than Lamar and even Josh)

              He has more endorsements than most guys and he’s a very marketable personality. 

              And he’s surrounded by a lot of talent.

              He should do really well this coming season.  

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              IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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              @sdbacker80 said:

              He has more endorsements than most guys and he’s a very marketable personality. 

              This is something that is going to make him a loooot of money for years to come. The guy’s a natural in front of the camera. Companies are dying to throw gobs of money at star athletes, but the problem is most of them can’t act. Look at how hard they try to milk the cardboard personality of Tom Brady. 

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                @ballpeen said:

                The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

                Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

                In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

                My answers are No and Yes.

                The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

                If you look at the numbers baker deserves more.  He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind

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                EastSideDawgE EastSideDawg wrote on last edited by
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                @bjh2130 said:

                If you look at the numbers baker deserves more.  He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind

                Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

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                  @bjh2130 said:

                  If you look at the numbers baker deserves more.  He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind

                  Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                  Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

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                  @eastsidedawg said:

                  Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                  Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

                  Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                  https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

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                    @bjh2130 said:

                    If you look at the numbers baker deserves more.  He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind

                    Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                    Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

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                    @eastsidedawg said:

                    Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                    Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

                    Well Josh has continuity the same coach and coordinators the past three years.

                    He also lead the league in dropped INTs 21. So if he’s a little unlucky this season you could see a drop in his production. 

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                      BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com.  Josh Allen had a 6.4.

                      https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71

                      https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7

                      Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?

                      https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6

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                        BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com.  Josh Allen had a 6.4.

                        https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71

                        https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7

                        Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?

                        https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6

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                        EastSideDawgE EastSideDawg wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com.  Josh Allen had a 6.4.

                        https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71

                        https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7

                        Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?

                        https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6

                        why does that matter? 

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com.  Josh Allen had a 6.4.

                          https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71

                          https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7

                          Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?

                          https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6

                          why does that matter? 

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          @eastsidedawg said:

                          why does that matter? 

                          Probably only in that it isn't fair to judge
                          Baker based solely on the criteria you mentioned.

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                            @eastsidedawg said:

                            Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                            Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

                            Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                            https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

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                            nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                            https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

                            Then factually speaking.. One could make the case Baker Mayfield did more with less..

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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                              https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

                              Then factually speaking.. One could make the case Baker Mayfield did more with less..

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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              @nickers said:

                              Then factually speaking.. One could make the case Baker Mayfield did more with less..

                              yep.

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                                @eastsidedawg said:

                                Baker is protected far more than josh allen.  Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.  

                                Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so.   The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he  isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil.  He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk

                                Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                                https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                                https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

                                One of the things I most look forward to is the improvement from that #16 since we concentrated on O the first year and on D this year. Get into the top 10 and maintain that O, this could be one great year with the pressure off Baker & company to score every possession like this past year.

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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.

                                  https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8

                                  One of the things I most look forward to is the improvement from that #16 since we concentrated on O the first year and on D this year. Get into the top 10 and maintain that O, this could be one great year with the pressure off Baker & company to score every possession like this past year.

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                                  the improvement from that #16

                                  Here's hoping the Takk situation turns out more purposefully than gramma buying a lottery ticket and losing it between the car seats on the way home.

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                                    From Yahoo sports........  The present and future of runaway sports payrolls ?  When will it end or will it ?

                                    To pay or not to pay?


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                                    By Jay Hart

                                    A little over a year ago, Patrick Mahomes signed a monster 10-year contract worth up to $503 million. Last week, Josh Allen got his own monster deal that, while not $503 million, could actually pave the way for an even bigger haul.

                                    ‌

                                    That’s sort of how it is with QB contracts: QB1 signs a deal, QB2 signs a bigger deal, QB3 signs an even bigger deal and so on. It hasn’t mattered where the talent level lies, just who’s up next.

                                    This brings us to who is next: Baker Mayfield; Lamar Jackson; and, soon, Kyler Murray.

                                    They’re all going to get paid. The question then becomes: Are they worth the salary-cap eating deals that will begin to strap the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills over the next couple seasons?

                                    Take the Chiefs. This season they’ll allocate just 5.5% of cap space on the quarterback position. Next season, that jumps to 17.5%, the season after that nearly 20%.

                                    Mahomes is special, but is even he special enough to make up for the loss of talent the Chiefs will undoubtedly experience due to cap restrictions?

                                    Now apply that question to Jackson, Mayfield and Murray, who, if the progression of quarterback salaries hold, will eat up even more cap space than Mahomes.

                                    The logic stands that you pay your QB because it’s either that or start over, and who wants to start over?

                                    But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening.

                                    Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning.

                                    Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling.

                                    To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds.

                                    This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off.

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                                      The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

                                      Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

                                      In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

                                      My answers are No and Yes.

                                      The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      @ballpeen said:

                                      answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

                                      not yet.....

                                      The start line. is still a couple months away.... and then there are a few months of data colllection.

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                                        From Yahoo sports........  The present and future of runaway sports payrolls ?  When will it end or will it ?

                                        To pay or not to pay?


                                        Image

                                        (Nick Cammett/Diamond Images via Getty Images)


                                        By Jay Hart

                                        A little over a year ago, Patrick Mahomes signed a monster 10-year contract worth up to $503 million. Last week, Josh Allen got his own monster deal that, while not $503 million, could actually pave the way for an even bigger haul.

                                        ‌

                                        That’s sort of how it is with QB contracts: QB1 signs a deal, QB2 signs a bigger deal, QB3 signs an even bigger deal and so on. It hasn’t mattered where the talent level lies, just who’s up next.

                                        This brings us to who is next: Baker Mayfield; Lamar Jackson; and, soon, Kyler Murray.

                                        They’re all going to get paid. The question then becomes: Are they worth the salary-cap eating deals that will begin to strap the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills over the next couple seasons?

                                        Take the Chiefs. This season they’ll allocate just 5.5% of cap space on the quarterback position. Next season, that jumps to 17.5%, the season after that nearly 20%.

                                        Mahomes is special, but is even he special enough to make up for the loss of talent the Chiefs will undoubtedly experience due to cap restrictions?

                                        Now apply that question to Jackson, Mayfield and Murray, who, if the progression of quarterback salaries hold, will eat up even more cap space than Mahomes.

                                        The logic stands that you pay your QB because it’s either that or start over, and who wants to start over?

                                        But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening.

                                        Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning.

                                        Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling.

                                        To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds.

                                        This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off.

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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening.

                                        Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning.

                                        Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling.

                                        To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds.

                                        This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off.

                                        GO, DePo, GO!

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                                          @ballpeen said:

                                          The Josh Allen bar has been set.  Does Baker deserve more or less?  Yes or no.

                                          More or less? that isn't a yes or no answer. lol It depends on the team. I think Baker will get a huge contract - but he also knows if he prices his contract too high to keep his offensive line, it's counter-productive.

                                          Will Baker demand more?  Yes or no.

                                          No.

                                          In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.

                                          My answers are No and Yes.

                                          The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen.  Be honest.

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          The Josh Allen bar has been set. 

                                          SHocker here is that it did not take a backhoe to set it.

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