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  • Zombo said:

    Baker is starting ... Let's Go!!!

    Z

    Great! Wonderful! Don't get yourself hurt any worse.  

  • Zombo said:

    Baker is starting ... Let's Go!!!

    Z

    This contains an image of: {{ pinTitle }}    Let's Go 6 ! 

  • PS- uh huh- Dak has common sense that Baker lacks...    https://www.nfl.com/news/dak-prescott-unsure-if-he-ll-play-sunday-i-don-t-want-this-to-linger-past-this-w

    Baker is practicing? Great... So why don't you turn your attention to that overpaid pussy Jadvedon Clowneny who's lately collecting a paycheck for doing nothing?   

    @hoorta said:

    PS- uh huh- Dak has common sense that Baker lacks...    https://www.nfl.com/news/dak-prescott-unsure-if-he-ll-play-sunday-i-don-t-want-this-to-linger-past-this-w

    Baker is practicing? Great... So why don't you turn your attention to that overpaid pussy Jadvedon Clowneny who's lately collecting a paycheck for doing nothing?   

    I encourage you strongly to read this: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/27/browns-three-pass-rushers-have-excelled-at-getting-pressure/

    To think Clowney isn't playing well above his $8 million deal because of sack total is just..not informed. I'm pretty sure you were part of the people banging the drum for Watt  (don't flame me if you weren't) and we see where the lead, again. I'm sorry, but to say he's "doing nothing" is just a bad take. 

  • Clowney is having a pretty damn good year and his pressure rate has been well above average.   He's not the player anyone should be using for a counter-argument right now.

  • Clowney is having a pretty damn good year and his pressure rate has been well above average.   He's not the player anyone should be using for a counter-argument right now.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Clowney is having a pretty damn good year and his pressure rate has been well above average.   He's not the player anyone should be using for a counter-argument right now.

    All ya gotta do is right the word "Baker" in a post and Hoorta loses his damn mind. Just scroll up and read some of his posts... It's pretty funny.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Clowney is having a pretty damn good year and his pressure rate has been well above average.   He's not the player anyone should be using for a counter-argument right now.

    All ya gotta do is right the word "Baker" in a post and Hoorta loses his damn mind. Just scroll up and read some of his posts... It's pretty funny.

    @hx214 said:

    All ya gotta do is right the word "Baker" in a post and Hoorta loses his damn mind. Just scroll up and read some of his posts... It's pretty funny.

    I'm good, thanks. 

  • Clowney is having a pretty damn good year and his pressure rate has been well above average.   He's not the player anyone should be using for a counter-argument right now.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Clowney is having a pretty damn good year and his pressure rate has been well above average.   He's not the player anyone should be using for a counter-argument right now.

    I was the biggest anti-Clowney guy on this board and have thought he's played very well.

    But one of the reasons I wasn't a fan of his signing - his injury history - looks like it could be a problem for him again. 

    Hence, why I didn't want the Browns to depend on him. We'll see. 

  • Zombo said:

    Baker is starting ... Let's Go!!!

    Z

    Great! Wonderful! Don't get yourself hurt any worse.  

    @hoorta said:

    Great! Wonderful! Don't get yourself hurt any worse.  

    This is why doctors want to ensure that *he has the ability to “adequately protect himself”* before clearing him to play again.

    * While Mayfield can navigate oncoming danger when he sees it coming, and run out of bounds or slide to avoid contact, the greater concern is with him getting hit from behind; in those instances he is naturally going to be using both arms and shoulders to brace himself, which opens him up to vulnerable situations which the harness alone cannot mitigate.

    No one wants to see Mayfield injured even worse than he is, and we know he wants to play ASAP so it is good the doctors will be ensuring he can protect himself from further injury before giving him the green light to play.*

    Believers of any of this? Shoulder Radius Tested better than week ago ?

    ?

  • At this point I gotta wonder why you bother paying 7 million to a back up QB when you decide to start the other guy who has a broken freaking shoulder. 

    If Baker actually walks out of the tunnel and starts the game, Big Kev can't think to much of Case.

  • At this point I gotta wonder why you bother paying 7 million to a back up QB when you decide to start the other guy who has a broken freaking shoulder. 

    If Baker actually walks out of the tunnel and starts the game, Big Kev can't think to much of Case.

    @hx214 said:

    At this point I gotta wonder why you bother paying 7 million to a back up QB when you decide to start the other guy who has a broken freaking shoulder. 

    If Baker actually walks out of the tunnel and starts the game, Big Kev can't think to much of Case.

    I'm all for sitting Baker and getting him healthy... However... It's times like this that if Baker pulls it off... it becomes the stuff of legend.. Otherwise...  it becomes another futile browns folly... However.. I'm one for a positive outcome this time around... Time for the Browns to do some bitch slapping this weekend... GO BROWNS!!!

  • IR by tuesday

  • One good hit and he's out for the season.

  • At this point I gotta wonder why you bother paying 7 million to a back up QB when you decide to start the other guy who has a broken freaking shoulder. 

    If Baker actually walks out of the tunnel and starts the game, Big Kev can't think to much of Case.

    @hx214 said:

    At this point I gotta wonder why you bother paying 7 million to a back up QB when you decide to start the other guy who has a broken freaking shoulder. 

    If Baker actually walks out of the tunnel and starts the game, Big Kev can't think to much of Case.

    I hate to say it, but my hopes of a long playoff run have diminished greatly. 

    It isn't going to happen with a hobbled Baker or a healthy Case Keenum - and Baker isn't getting healthy until the offseason. 

  • @hx214 said:

    At this point I gotta wonder why you bother paying 7 million to a back up QB when you decide to start the other guy who has a broken freaking shoulder. 

    If Baker actually walks out of the tunnel and starts the game, Big Kev can't think to much of Case.

    I'm all for sitting Baker and getting him healthy... However... It's times like this that if Baker pulls it off... it becomes the stuff of legend.. Otherwise...  it becomes another futile browns folly... However.. I'm one for a positive outcome this time around... Time for the Browns to do some bitch slapping this weekend... GO BROWNS!!!

    @nickers said:

    I'm all for sitting Baker and getting him healthy... However... It's times like this that if Baker pulls it off... it becomes the stuff of legend.. Otherwise...  it becomes another futile browns folly... However.. I'm one for a positive outcome this time around... Time for the Browns to do some bitch slapping this weekend... GO BROWNS!!!

    Get it done!

    I gotta believe Kev doesn't think he can beat the Steelers with Case so he's gotta roll the dice.  Looking like he will have to do it with the Bengals too. But WTF... Probably don't make the playoffs with Case starting multi games anyway, so if he does get hurt and goes on IR your in the same boat anyway...

    Bake better have taken notes on how to throw the ball away when the play isn't there.

  • @nickers said:

    I'm all for sitting Baker and getting him healthy... However... It's times like this that if Baker pulls it off... it becomes the stuff of legend.. Otherwise...  it becomes another futile browns folly... However.. I'm one for a positive outcome this time around... Time for the Browns to do some bitch slapping this weekend... GO BROWNS!!!

    Get it done!

    I gotta believe Kev doesn't think he can beat the Steelers with Case so he's gotta roll the dice.  Looking like he will have to do it with the Bengals too. But WTF... Probably don't make the playoffs with Case starting multi games anyway, so if he does get hurt and goes on IR your in the same boat anyway...

    Bake better have taken notes on how to throw the ball away when the play isn't there.

    @hx214 said:

    Get it done!

    I gotta believe Kev doesn't think he can beat the Steelers with Case so he's gotta roll the dice.  Looking like he will have to do it with the Bengals too. But WTF... Probably don't make the playoffs with Case starting multi games anyway, so if he does get hurt and goes on IR your in the same boat anyway...

    Bake better have taken notes on how to throw the ball away when the play isn't there.

    The short attention spans are forgetting Keenum went 11-3 with the Vikings five years ago, and took them to the playoffs. He's not exactly a stiff. 

    MHO is Baker shouldn't be out there this Sunday. In my mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that you can see. I'm not worried he'll throw the ball away when he senses pressure.... It's the whack that he doesn't see coming that will knock him out of the game... 🙁  

  • @hx214 said:

    Get it done!

    I gotta believe Kev doesn't think he can beat the Steelers with Case so he's gotta roll the dice.  Looking like he will have to do it with the Bengals too. But WTF... Probably don't make the playoffs with Case starting multi games anyway, so if he does get hurt and goes on IR your in the same boat anyway...

    Bake better have taken notes on how to throw the ball away when the play isn't there.

    The short attention spans are forgetting Keenum went 11-3 with the Vikings five years ago, and took them to the playoffs. He's not exactly a stiff. 

    MHO is Baker shouldn't be out there this Sunday. In my mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that you can see. I'm not worried he'll throw the ball away when he senses pressure.... It's the whack that he doesn't see coming that will knock him out of the game... 🙁  

    @hoorta said:

    The short attention spans are forgetting Keenum went 11-3 with the Vikings five years ago, and took them to the playoffs. He's not exactly a stiff. 

    MHO is Baker shouldn't be out there this Sunday. In my mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that you can see. I'm not worried he'll throw the ball away when he senses pressure.... It's the whack that he doesn't see coming that will knock him out of the game... 🙁  

    Ya but three years ago he went 1-8 before getting yanked... In Washington. 

    Hasn't been a common theme around Cleveland but I feel like there is actually a coach in charge that doesn't have his head up his ass, and I don't think he gives two as to if Baker wants to play or not so if he suits Baker up he's gotta think it's good to go and it's their best chance to win.

  • @hoorta said:

    The short attention spans are forgetting Keenum went 11-3 with the Vikings five years ago, and took them to the playoffs. He's not exactly a stiff. 

    MHO is Baker shouldn't be out there this Sunday. In my mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that you can see. I'm not worried he'll throw the ball away when he senses pressure.... It's the whack that he doesn't see coming that will knock him out of the game... 🙁  

    Ya but three years ago he went 1-8 before getting yanked... In Washington. 

    Hasn't been a common theme around Cleveland but I feel like there is actually a coach in charge that doesn't have his head up his ass, and I don't think he gives two as to if Baker wants to play or not so if he suits Baker up he's gotta think it's good to go and it's their best chance to win.

    @hx214 said:

    Ya but three years ago he went 1-8 before getting yanked... In Washington. 

    Hasn't been a common theme around Cleveland but I feel like there is actually a coach in charge that doesn't have his head up his ass, and I don't think he gives two as to if Baker wants to play or not so if he suits Baker up he's gotta think it's good to go and it's their best chance to win.

    The biggest issue with preparing for a game is there's no way to simulate getting hit by a 300 pound gigantic human being. So Baker could be throwing fine, and visually he looks terrific slinging it, but we're not just playing any team here. We're playing the effing Steelers and they might not be the juggernaut of yesteryear, but the one thing they do damn near better than anyone is kill the quarterback. 

    Even if Baker doesn't get tackled on his shoulder, getting powerfully wrapped up HAS to be beyond painful, right? Can he protect the ball? Those two fumbles against Arizona were absolutely atrocious. I'm not saying the shoulder caused them, but it can't help with ball security, can it? 

    I love Baker. Heck, I adore our entire TEAM. OBJ is fighting his ass off to stay in the game and nobody is talking about it. Landry is banged up, but you KNOW his ass is out there. We have some tough dudes trying to save their season and it continues Sunday. We've beaten Pittsburgh twice in a row for the first time in probably forever. Bernie was the last guy to do it thrice. Landry and Chubb are back and that's HUGE. Our offense will be at full power besides Hunt and DPJ. Sounds good to me. 

    The best thing about winning 2 in a row is some of the mystique the Steelers had has faded. We moved the ball on them and largely protected Baker. Not only that, coach indicated that Baker wasn't just doing OK, he was doing quite well. Sure, it might be coach speak, but I'll take it. 

    As I've said before, this game will come down to 2 things:  Penalties and turnovers. We've been penalized FAR too much this year, some of them bad calls, but many our own carelessness. If we get behind the sticks, Browns fans need to understand now that we may be fine punting if it's close. Don't be surprised if we run it on 3rd and 6 a few times and try to pick up the first that way, or set us up for a more palatable 4th down. But don't expect to see Baker doing many 7 step drops on 3rd and long, not early anyways. 

    Turnovers. Our defense has STRUGGLED with creating turnovers this year and it's tough to figure out why. No strip sacks from Garrett, no deflected passes for easy picks, and absolutely no defensive TDs. That needs to change IMMEDIATELY. In fact, I'll take it a step further. I think we'll need a defensive or special teams score to win...and I think we'll GET IT. 

    This will be a close game that we break open late with our defensive TD. Browns win 31-21. 

  • @hx214 said:

    Get it done!

    I gotta believe Kev doesn't think he can beat the Steelers with Case so he's gotta roll the dice.  Looking like he will have to do it with the Bengals too. But WTF... Probably don't make the playoffs with Case starting multi games anyway, so if he does get hurt and goes on IR your in the same boat anyway...

    Bake better have taken notes on how to throw the ball away when the play isn't there.

    The short attention spans are forgetting Keenum went 11-3 with the Vikings five years ago, and took them to the playoffs. He's not exactly a stiff. 

    MHO is Baker shouldn't be out there this Sunday. In my mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that you can see. I'm not worried he'll throw the ball away when he senses pressure.... It's the whack that he doesn't see coming that will knock him out of the game... 🙁  

    @hoorta said:

     mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that.. you can see. ?

    20211028-MS-12-400x240.jpg  Ohhhh! The world should be able to see it....

    https://www.brownszone.com/2021/10/29/baker-mayfield-cleared-to-play-feels-ready-will-start-sunday-vs-steelers/

  • @hoorta said:

     mountaineering parlance- you don't fall into a crevasse that.. you can see. ?

    20211028-MS-12-400x240.jpg  Ohhhh! The world should be able to see it....

    https://www.brownszone.com/2021/10/29/baker-mayfield-cleared-to-play-feels-ready-will-start-sunday-vs-steelers/

    @gumby73 said:

    20211028-MS-12-400x240.jpg  Ohhhh! The world should be able to see it....

    https://www.brownszone.com/2021/10/29/baker-mayfield-cleared-to-play-feels-ready-will-start-sunday-vs-steelers/

    Yes gumby,  I can clearly  see that harness is restricting his range of motion in his left arm. I even commented on it earlier. Guess we'll find out  Sunday if it makes any difference.  If Coach is OK with it, I'm OK with it.

  • It amazes me that a sector of you have talked yourselves in to thinking Baker Mayfield has turned into Brian Hoyer and ya'll know it just isnt so.. Ya'll know when bake is healthy he can ball his ass off... and thats what I expect he'll do given the opportunity... Right now.. I support the guy under center.. Just win... Go Browns!

    @nickers said:

    It amazes me that a sector of you have talked yourselves in to thinking Baker Mayfield has turned into Brian Hoyer and ya'll know it just isnt so.. Ya'll know when bake is healthy he can ball his ass off... and thats what I expect he'll do given the opportunity... Right now.. I support the guy under center.. Just win... Go Browns!

    It amazes me how many are convinced the guy is healthy.

    Ok...just a brush back to your comment.  Like I said, if all checks out, I don't have a problem with him playing.  He is out QB for fucks sake.  Why wouldn't I?  Maybe I am a little concerned that if he really breaks the bone rather than a simple fracture, he might not be out QB for a good long while.

    Guys, if we can't beat the Steelers with Keenum at QB, we aren't a very good team.