M-Odell to the Rams
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I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.
I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once.
Baker magically going to become healthy with OBJ's release?
Baker magically going to become healthy with OBJ's release?
This is the part that isn't fun to think about. However, much of Browns Twitter is talking about OBJ being a lackluster route runner and then deviating from assigned locations. They believe this above all else is the reason Baker didn't throw him the ball. Our offense is extremely timing oriented and not being in the right place would cause significant issues, but I don't see it.
If OBJ was such a poor route runner, why haven't I heard it before? Why wasn't this mentioned in ANY of the dozens of film review videos over the years? It sounds convenient to me that it all surfaces now. It doesn't explain everything, not to me.
Baker is hurt, people are forgetting. But the funny thing is, I haven't noticed him play much different. Sure, the ball is a little high, but hasn't it always? I'd say his deep ball is struggling, but I don't really remember him THROWING any.
The biggest problem with Baker is he's not throwing the ball. Not deep, not with anticipation, and not with conviction. Does OBJ leaving really help that? I don't know. I do know Baker is furious, and he always plays well against the wall.
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Yes nickers- I know we should have royally screwed him over, and sent him to the Lions. He totally deserved it after the bullshit he pulled this week. However, take the long view as to how other players in the NFL would see Cleveland as a potential landing spot had we done so.
As those articles pointed out- there's 12 teams with the cap room to sign OBJ- the Saints being at the top of the list... More- if teams restructure or cut players. He's not going to Tampa Bay- they only have $2 million cap space left.
His career is about finished anyhow... Despite him being 'open"...He's had a terrible case of the dropsies.... We all know Baker has his issues But OBJ's dad undressing him in public was just downright scumbag savage... I detest people like this... I'm willing to give Baker this year and next... We may as well.. because it may take about that long to consider his replacement should that be the case...
His career is about finished anyhow... Despite him being 'open"...He's had a terrible case of the dropsies.... We all know Baker has his issues But OBJ's dad undressing him in public was just downright scumbag savage... I detest people like this... I'm willing to give Baker this year and next... We may as well.. because it may take about that long to consider his replacement should that be the case...
RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps? Hmmm.
We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA. If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract.
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His career is about finished anyhow... Despite him being 'open"...He's had a terrible case of the dropsies.... We all know Baker has his issues But OBJ's dad undressing him in public was just downright scumbag savage... I detest people like this... I'm willing to give Baker this year and next... We may as well.. because it may take about that long to consider his replacement should that be the case...
RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps? Hmmm.
We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA. If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract.
RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps? Hmmm.
We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA. If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract.
I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples.
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I don't. What if the NYG couple of years was a sincere aberration - wouldn't be the first with "physical gifts" to not be able to play the team sport of football.
His reception totals each year of college were 41/43/59.. not magical.
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I don't. What if the NYG couple of years was a sincere aberration - wouldn't be the first with "physical gifts" to not be able to play the team sport of football.
His reception totals each year of college were 41/43/59.. not magical.
I don't. What if the NYG couple of years was a sincere aberration - wouldn't be the first with "physical gifts" to not be able to play the team sport of football.
His reception totals each year of college were 41/43/59.. not magical.
Stats without context are awful. Off the top of my head Odell played on an offensively limited LSU team with terrible coaches (Miles) who couldn't develop or properly deploy their players and struggled to win games where they didn't outclass in talent. You can go as far back as Oklahoma state to find evidence of that with Les Miles. He's an average coach who is an above average recruiter. That means you take quality players and put them under a glass ceiling looking up at their potential.
Those LSU squads were LOADED and only found a way to get shutout in a title game then follow up with back to back 3 loss seasons despite having...
Zach Mettinberger, Jeremy Hill, Alfred Blue, Spencer Ware, OBJ, Juice, La'el Collins, Trai Turner... on offense alone.
For another fun episode of stats without context, here are Michael Thomas' reception totals on run first offenses with up-and-down QB play...
2012 Ohio State 11 3 22 7.3 11 0 2014 Ohio State 15 54 799 14.8 79 9 2015 Ohio State 13 56 781 13.9 50 9 That's 3x Pro bowl, 2x all pro Michael Thomas.
I don't believe those NYG years were an aberration.
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I don't think those fantastic seasons early in his career were an aberration either.
And I don't think his injury-riddled seasons that have followed were an aberration either.
He just turned 29. His gas needle is pointing down.
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obj has obviously been a high talent wr. Of course he has. But he has to be a star, center of attention or sulks.
He has been an excellent receiver, sure. But, once he made his brand and became a star, he only played in 4 games in 2017 with the Giants. He became a star with the Browns, in 2019, playing in 16 games. Then only played in 7 games in 2020.
He has been a high talent pain in the ass to the Giants more and more. He became just that with the Browns.
Now he wants to go to a contender. ah. It's all about HIM. no team player.
Speaking of stats: obj has only scored ONE TD his entire pro career?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.
REGULAR SEASON
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2014 NYG 12 11 91 1,305 14.3 80 12 7 35 5.0 13 0 1 1 2015 NYG 15 15 96 1,450 15.1 87 13 1 3 3.0 3 0 2 0 2016 NYG 16 16 101 1,367 13.5 75 10 1 9 9.0 9 0 3 1 2017 NYG 4 2 25 302 12.1 48 3 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 2018 NYG 12 12 77 1,052 13.7 51 6 5 19 3.8 11 0 2 1 2019 CLE 16 15 74 1,035 14.0 89 4 3 10 3.3 11 0 1 1 2020 CLE 7 7 23 319 13.9 43 3 3 72 24.0 50 1 0 0 2021 CLE 6 6 17 232 13.6 26 0 2 14 7.0 10 0 0 0 Total 88 84 504 7,062 14.0 89 51 23 170 7.4 50 1 9 4 Postseason
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2016 NYG 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 — — — — — 0 0 2020 CLE 0 0 Did not play due to injury Total 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 Source:[160]
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obj has obviously been a high talent wr. Of course he has. But he has to be a star, center of attention or sulks.
He has been an excellent receiver, sure. But, once he made his brand and became a star, he only played in 4 games in 2017 with the Giants. He became a star with the Browns, in 2019, playing in 16 games. Then only played in 7 games in 2020.
He has been a high talent pain in the ass to the Giants more and more. He became just that with the Browns.
Now he wants to go to a contender. ah. It's all about HIM. no team player.
Speaking of stats: obj has only scored ONE TD his entire pro career?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.
REGULAR SEASON
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2014 NYG 12 11 91 1,305 14.3 80 12 7 35 5.0 13 0 1 1 2015 NYG 15 15 96 1,450 15.1 87 13 1 3 3.0 3 0 2 0 2016 NYG 16 16 101 1,367 13.5 75 10 1 9 9.0 9 0 3 1 2017 NYG 4 2 25 302 12.1 48 3 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 2018 NYG 12 12 77 1,052 13.7 51 6 5 19 3.8 11 0 2 1 2019 CLE 16 15 74 1,035 14.0 89 4 3 10 3.3 11 0 1 1 2020 CLE 7 7 23 319 13.9 43 3 3 72 24.0 50 1 0 0 2021 CLE 6 6 17 232 13.6 26 0 2 14 7.0 10 0 0 0 Total 88 84 504 7,062 14.0 89 51 23 170 7.4 50 1 9 4 Postseason
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2016 NYG 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 — — — — — 0 0 2020 CLE 0 0 Did not play due to injury Total 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 Source:[160]
obj has obviously been a high talent wr. Of course he has. But he has to be a star, center of attention or sulks.
He has been an excellent receiver, sure. But, once he made his brand and became a star, he only played in 4 games in 2017 with the Giants. He became a star with the Browns, in 2019, playing in 16 games. Then only played in 7 games in 2020.
He has been a high talent pain in the ass to the Giants more and more. He became just that with the Browns.
Now he wants to go to a contender. ah. It's all about HIM. no team player.
Speaking of stats: obj has only scored ONE TD his entire pro career?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.
REGULAR SEASON
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2014 NYG 12 11 91 1,305 14.3 80 12 7 35 5.0 13 0 1 1 2015 NYG 15 15 96 1,450 15.1 87 13 1 3 3.0 3 0 2 0 2016 NYG 16 16 101 1,367 13.5 75 10 1 9 9.0 9 0 3 1 2017 NYG 4 2 25 302 12.1 48 3 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 2018 NYG 12 12 77 1,052 13.7 51 6 5 19 3.8 11 0 2 1 2019 CLE 16 15 74 1,035 14.0 89 4 3 10 3.3 11 0 1 1 2020 CLE 7 7 23 319 13.9 43 3 3 72 24.0 50 1 0 0 2021 CLE 6 6 17 232 13.6 26 0 2 14 7.0 10 0 0 0 Total 88 84 504 7,062 14.0 89 51 23 170 7.4 50 1 9 4 Postseason
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2016 NYG 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 — — — — — 0 0 2020 CLE 0 0 Did not play due to injury Total 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 Source:[160]
You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki. Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05 Odd.
- This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).
Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year. I know, he was on my fantasy squad.
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obj has obviously been a high talent wr. Of course he has. But he has to be a star, center of attention or sulks.
He has been an excellent receiver, sure. But, once he made his brand and became a star, he only played in 4 games in 2017 with the Giants. He became a star with the Browns, in 2019, playing in 16 games. Then only played in 7 games in 2020.
He has been a high talent pain in the ass to the Giants more and more. He became just that with the Browns.
Now he wants to go to a contender. ah. It's all about HIM. no team player.
Speaking of stats: obj has only scored ONE TD his entire pro career?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.
REGULAR SEASON
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2014 NYG 12 11 91 1,305 14.3 80 12 7 35 5.0 13 0 1 1 2015 NYG 15 15 96 1,450 15.1 87 13 1 3 3.0 3 0 2 0 2016 NYG 16 16 101 1,367 13.5 75 10 1 9 9.0 9 0 3 1 2017 NYG 4 2 25 302 12.1 48 3 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 2018 NYG 12 12 77 1,052 13.7 51 6 5 19 3.8 11 0 2 1 2019 CLE 16 15 74 1,035 14.0 89 4 3 10 3.3 11 0 1 1 2020 CLE 7 7 23 319 13.9 43 3 3 72 24.0 50 1 0 0 2021 CLE 6 6 17 232 13.6 26 0 2 14 7.0 10 0 0 0 Total 88 84 504 7,062 14.0 89 51 23 170 7.4 50 1 9 4 Postseason
Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2016 NYG 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 — — — — — 0 0 2020 CLE 0 0 Did not play due to injury Total 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 Source:[160]
You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki. Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05 Odd.
- This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).
Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year. I know, he was on my fantasy squad.
You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki. Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05 Odd.
- This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).
Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year. I know, he was on my fantasy squad.
Nope. lol. If you go follow the link, it's exact. I looked in the wrong freaking column. dammit. that was rushing TD's. dammit. My breakfast is distracting me.
dammit.
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I asked myself this same question. . .
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You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki. Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05 Odd.
- This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).
Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year. I know, he was on my fantasy squad.
Nope. lol. If you go follow the link, it's exact. I looked in the wrong freaking column. dammit. that was rushing TD's. dammit. My breakfast is distracting me.
dammit.
Nope. lol. If you go follow the link, it's exact. I looked in the wrong freaking column. dammit. that was rushing TD's. dammit. My breakfast is distracting me.
dammit.
29/40 games114 catches/210 targets1,586 receiving yards96 rush yards8 touchdowns$44M cash -
RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps? Hmmm.
We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA. If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract.
I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples.
I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples.
For the rest of this season, he's only going to a team with the cap room (or willing to create cap room) to sign him. Ugh!! The Ratbirds are one of those teams.
If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to kick the tires first before I sign him to a long term deal.
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RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps? Hmmm.
We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA. If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract.
I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples.
I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples.
Do Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Q'aron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson have magic health dust that they are going to sprinkle all over OBJ's brittle body?
His proverbial gas tank is running empty. He's 29 going on 34 in football years. He might be able to pull a good game or two out of his ass, but he's on the backslide of his career.
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I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples.
For the rest of this season, he's only going to a team with the cap room (or willing to create cap room) to sign him. Ugh!! The Ratbirds are one of those teams.
If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to kick the tires first before I sign him to a long term deal.
For the rest of this season, he's only going to a team with the cap room (or willing to create cap room) to sign him. Ugh!! The Ratbirds are one of those teams.
If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to kick the tires first before I sign him to a long term deal.
i see (s)he, whining next for a veteran QB...Russ Wilson..Matt Stafford makes the most cents to me... A.Rodgers? GM cheap mond'ra keeps screaming at me... no!
the She'Hawks.. have the cap to not let this get past #9 on the waiver wire.... Rams make the most cents, if Jay get's his choice..has home in LA ..and a new ego to be right..
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.
I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once.
I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.
I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once.
^ Just because I can, but more importantly, because I want to.
The contagious disease has been removed, and the Browns are instantly better for it..... Ship righted and they just need to keep it there until they finally get heathy..... Go Baker, er, Go Browns!!
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I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.
I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once.
I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.
I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once.
Wow! talk about getting it right. Nice Job!
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What a failure of a leader Stefanski has been through this. He had the opportunity to prevent this by shutting down Baker when he got hurt instead of acquiescing to Baker's delusion that he could play.
What a failure of a leader Stefanski has been through this. He had the opportunity to prevent this by shutting down Baker when he got hurt instead of acquiescing to Baker's delusion that he could play.
Played just fine with All about Odell off the field. If you think OBJ’s pouting just started while Baker was injured you have your head in the sand (or somewhere)
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What a failure of a leader Stefanski has been through this. He had the opportunity to prevent this by shutting down Baker when he got hurt instead of acquiescing to Baker's delusion that he could play.
Played just fine with All about Odell off the field. If you think OBJ’s pouting just started while Baker was injured you have your head in the sand (or somewhere)
Played just fine with All about Odell off the field. If you think OBJ’s pouting just started while Baker was injured you have your head in the sand (or somewhere)
All the Baker haters went on vacay until the next loss....
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I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity
OBJ indeed was "open" because he didn't do what the play told him to do. Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity
OBJ indeed was "open" because he didn't do what the play told him to do. Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.
I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity
OBJ indeed was open because he didn't do what the play told him to do. Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.
It’s easy to be open when you are not where you are supposed to be
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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