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  • @calfoxwc said:

    obj has obviously been a high talent wr. Of course he has. But he has to be a star, center of attention or sulks.

    He has been an excellent receiver, sure. But, once he made his brand and became a star, he only played in 4 games in 2017 with the Giants. He became a star with the Browns, in 2019, playing in 16 games. Then only played in 7 games in 2020.

    He has been a high talent pain in the ass to the Giants more and more. He became just that with the Browns.

    Now he wants to go to a contender. ah. It's all about HIM. no team player.

    Speaking of stats: obj has only scored ONE TD his entire pro career?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Beckham_Jr.

    REGULAR SEASON

    Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles
    GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost
    2014 NYG 12 11 91 1,305 14.3 80 12 7 35 5.0 13 0 1 1
    2015 NYG 15 15 96 1,450 15.1 87 13 1 3 3.0 3 0 2 0
    2016 NYG 16 16 101 1,367 13.5 75 10 1 9 9.0 9 0 3 1
    2017 NYG 4 2 25 302 12.1 48 3 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0
    2018 NYG 12 12 77 1,052 13.7 51 6 5 19 3.8 11 0 2 1
    2019 CLE 16 15 74 1,035 14.0 89 4 3 10 3.3 11 0 1 1
    2020 CLE 7 7 23 319 13.9 43 3 3 72 24.0 50 1 0 0
    2021 CLE 6 6 17 232 13.6 26 0 2 14 7.0 10 0 0 0
    Total 88 84 504 7,062 14.0 89 51 23 170 7.4 50 1 9 4

    Postseason

    Year Team Games Receiving Rushing Fumbles
    GP GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost
    2016 NYG 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 — — — — — 0 0
    2020 CLE 0 0 Did not play due to injury
    Total 1 1 4 28 7.0 11 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0

    Source:[160]

    You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki.   Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05  Odd.  

    • This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).

    Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year.  I know, he was on my fantasy squad.

    @tiamat63 said:

    You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki.   Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05  Odd.  

    • This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).

    Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year.  I know, he was on my fantasy squad.

    Nope. lol. If you go follow the link, it's exact. I looked in the wrong freaking column. dammit. that was rushing TD's. dammit. My breakfast is distracting me.

    dammit.

  • I asked myself this same question. . .

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    You copied and pasted it wrong or used a poor source with an edit - wiki.   Because that same wiki page shows and edit this morning at 6:05  Odd.  

    • This page was last edited on 7 November 2021, at 06:05 (UTC).

    Because he scored at least 10 TD's his rookie year.  I know, he was on my fantasy squad.

    Nope. lol. If you go follow the link, it's exact. I looked in the wrong freaking column. dammit. that was rushing TD's. dammit. My breakfast is distracting me.

    dammit.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Nope. lol. If you go follow the link, it's exact. I looked in the wrong freaking column. dammit. that was rushing TD's. dammit. My breakfast is distracting me.

    dammit.

     
    Odell Beckham Jr. & the #Browns
    29/40 games
    114 catches/210 targets
    1,586 receiving yards
    96 rush yards
    8 touchdowns
    $44M cash
    9:41 AM · Nov 7, 2021
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    Odell Beckham Jr. & the #Browns

    29/40 games
    114 catches/210 targets
    1,586 receiving yards
    96 rush yards
    8 touchdowns
    $44M cash
     
     
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  • @hoorta said:

    RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps?  Hmmm.  

    We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA.  If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right  out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract. 

    I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples. 

    For the rest of this season, he's only going to a team with the cap room (or willing to create cap room) to sign him. Ugh!! The Ratbirds are one of those teams. 

    If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to  kick the tires first before I sign him to a long term deal.  

  • @hoorta said:

    RE: the bold starting to hear footsteps?  Hmmm.  

    We're going to see soon enough just how good OBJ still is- assuming he clears waivers and another team picks him up as a FA.  If he's dreaming of 90+ (like the top 14 WRs had last year) receptions on 120 targets and a 1,000 or so yard season... Dream on kiddo. I'll be REALLY curious if ANY team will be willing to offer him a long term contract right  out of the gate. Bet that he'll get a 8 game "prove it" contract. And if he doesn't "prove it"- you're going to get a shit contract. 

    I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples. 

    Do Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Q'aron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson have magic health dust that they are going to sprinkle all over OBJ's brittle body?

    His proverbial gas tank is running empty. He's 29 going on 34 in football years. He might be able to pull a good game or two out of his ass, but he's on the backslide of his career. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I have a feeling he's just fine. Imagine him playing with a guy like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or even Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he'll go to those teams, just examples. 

    For the rest of this season, he's only going to a team with the cap room (or willing to create cap room) to sign him. Ugh!! The Ratbirds are one of those teams. 

    If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to  kick the tires first before I sign him to a long term deal.  

    @hoorta said:

    For the rest of this season, he's only going to a team with the cap room (or willing to create cap room) to sign him. Ugh!! The Ratbirds are one of those teams. 

    If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to  kick the tires first before I sign him to a long term deal.  

    i see (s)he, whining next for a veteran QB...Russ Wilson..Matt Stafford makes the most cents to me... A.Rodgers? GM cheap mond'ra keeps screaming at me... no!

    the She'Hawks.. have the cap to not let this get past #9 on the waiver wire.... Rams make the most cents, if Jay get's his choice..has home in LA ..and a new ego to be right.. 

  • I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    @d-bone said:

    I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    ^ Just because I can, but more importantly, because I want to. 

    The contagious disease has been removed, and the Browns are instantly better for it..... Ship righted and they just need to keep it there until they finally get heathy..... Go Baker, er, Go Browns!! 

  • I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    @d-bone said:

    I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    Wow! talk about getting it right. Nice Job!

  • What a failure of a leader Stefanski has been through this. He had the opportunity to prevent this by shutting down Baker when he got hurt instead of acquiescing to Baker's delusion that he could play. 

    @vaportrail said:

    What a failure of a leader Stefanski has been through this. He had the opportunity to prevent this by shutting down Baker when he got hurt instead of acquiescing to Baker's delusion that he could play. 

    Played just fine with All about Odell off the field. If you think OBJ’s pouting just started while Baker was injured you have your head in the sand (or somewhere)

  • @vaportrail said:

    What a failure of a leader Stefanski has been through this. He had the opportunity to prevent this by shutting down Baker when he got hurt instead of acquiescing to Baker's delusion that he could play. 

    Played just fine with All about Odell off the field. If you think OBJ’s pouting just started while Baker was injured you have your head in the sand (or somewhere)

    @jcam222 said:

    Played just fine with All about Odell off the field. If you think OBJ’s pouting just started while Baker was injured you have your head in the sand (or somewhere)

    All the Baker haters went on vacay until the next loss....

  • I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity

    OBJ indeed was "open" because he didn't do what the play told him to do.  Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.

  • I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity

    OBJ indeed was "open" because he didn't do what the play told him to do.  Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity

    OBJ indeed was open because he didn't do what the play told him to do.  Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.

    It’s easy to be open when you are not where you are supposed to be

  • I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    @d-bone said:

    I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    A “Great dinner” at Chili’s? 
    That could ruin your credibility ?

  • @d-bone said:

    I can't wait to read the forum next week after the offense explodes this Sunday and the Browns right the ship with Baker's best game of the season.

    I hated the trade the second I saw it on the TV in Chili's (ruining a great dinner) and never liked the dude for a single second while he was taking up space on the roster... Finally some good freakin' news about the Browns for once. 

    A “Great dinner” at Chili’s? 
    That could ruin your credibility ?

    @browns149 said:

    A “Great dinner” at Chili’s? 
    That could ruin your credibility ?

    It all begins and ends at the chips and salsa! 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity

    OBJ indeed was open because he didn't do what the play told him to do.  Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.

    It’s easy to be open when you are not where you are supposed to be

    @browns149 said:

    It’s easy to be open when you are not where you are supposed to be

    That doesn't make sense though.

    The defenders who are covering OBJ have no idea where he's supposed to be. They just cover him where ever he goes. 

    Now, it is easy to understand why Baker would "miss" OBJ when he was open, considering he was probably nowhere near where he was supposed to be. 

  • I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity

    OBJ indeed was "open" because he didn't do what the play told him to do.  Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I thought this was the case but couldn't verify -- Now it's getting more publicity

    OBJ indeed was "open" because he didn't do what the play told him to do.  Baker didn't throw to him because... when you practice a play you expect a guy to be chopping his feet and cutting at the prescribed 15-yard dig, not running a skinny post because he felt like it.

    Thanks!  There's been a lot things that have changed since his brief prime with the Giants except getting injured.  Sometimes he doesn't look for the ball as if Baker minus both starting tackles (or with them) had all the time in the world to wait til he's ready.  Sometimes he's more gun-shy in traffic than many of his buddies in the national media want to give him credit for. That's prolly due to some of the mental part/scar tissue from previous injuries like that brutal ankle injury with the Giants for post-catch contact.   Also, while we're aware he can make 1 handed grabs in practice and warm-ups - how about just catching the damn thing with 2 hands.  And then there were times Baker didn't get it to him the way he got it to DPJ for whatever reasons fit the situation.

    That sucked that it never worked out; but I'm glad this team was focused now that there's a solution pleasing all parties.

  • Still have no clue why obj couldn't work here. But stefanski system is not tailored to throw every pass to wherever obj finds himself. Out of the 14 completions yesterday they were scattered around eight different people. Only Jarvis had three of those catches. So Beckham jr. Isn't going to flourish in an offense made to spread the ball around.

    WSS

  • Still have no clue why obj couldn't work here. But stefanski system is not tailored to throw every pass to wherever obj finds himself. Out of the 14 completions yesterday they were scattered around eight different people. Only Jarvis had three of those catches. So Beckham jr. Isn't going to flourish in an offense made to spread the ball around.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Still have no clue why obj couldn't work here. But stefanski system is not tailored to throw every pass to wherever obj finds himself. Out of the 14 completions yesterday they were scattered around eight different people. Only Jarvis had three of those catches. So Beckham jr. Isn't going to flourish in an offense made to spread the ball around.

    WSS

    It was always about padding stats for OBJ.... He's the Anti-Team mate

  • I hate the talking heads at ESPN, but listening to Dan Oralvsky this morning really nailed it.

    Some schemes, coaching, and even organizations cater to the idea of the "players above the plays". Honestly, I think of a team like KC with Mahomes where you trust that dude to figure it the hell out. The thing is, it's exactly the reverse for what Stefanski and this team is now built. This scheme and coaching, especially on offense, is plays designed to maximize the talents of the team. Nick Chubb is the living embodiment of this thinking, and Baker is a close second. It's not a coincidence how much better this team is with OBJ off the field, it just isn't. What this organization has built can win a lot of football games over the 3-4 years with Mayfield and crew.

    So yeah, when you have a drama ridden dude who is running his own routes and has his Dad act tough on the internet? Cya. I don't want to hear for a second that daddy's little social media rant wasn't orchestrated by OBJ. Now telling teams there will be "potential issues" if they claim him: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/07/report-potential-issues-if-a-non-contender-claims-obj-on-waivers/ like a toddler. But yeah, he wasn't the problem my ass.

  • Shots fired!

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