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  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    Why is it more than they're worth? If companies will pay them that amount then isn't that their worth?

     they become more than they are worth when their jobs are eliminated. It's pretty simple Woody.

    Consumers are generally workers. Things may cost more but workers are being paid more. And if an employer isn't paying more you'll see labor shift from that business over time. 

    Automation is coming. Decades from now we're looking at a need for Universal Basic Income. Right now it isn't nearly as easy to automate as you're making it sound. 

     but not nearly as difficult as some would like to make it seem. Some people might see a world we're almost nobody needs to do anything except stay home and wait for that check and think that's a positive step for society and Mankind.

    WSS 

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    @westside-steve said:

    I would wager I have a better idea of what's involved than you do. It isn't so straightforward. And even at the rate we're pushing automation now, there's still plenty of jobs. Long term we do probably get to a point where there aren't enough jobs to go around, at least lower skilled jobs. I'm fine with there being some stipend as a result, because that's better than an ever increasing wealth gap..

    And sure, if they get eliminated then they get eliminated. But that's not what's happening. There's a bidding war for workers. They're being paid more because that's where the market values those workers. 

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        @westside-steve said:

        I would wager I have a better idea of what's involved than you do. It isn't so straightforward. And even at the rate we're pushing automation now, there's still plenty of jobs. Long term we do probably get to a point where there aren't enough jobs to go around, at least lower skilled jobs. I'm fine with there being some stipend as a result, because that's better than an ever increasing wealth gap..

        And sure, if they get eliminated then they get eliminated. But that's not what's happening. There's a bidding war for workers. They're being paid more because that's where the market values those workers. 

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        @mld-woody said:

        I would wager I have a better idea of what's involved than you do. It isn't so straightforward. And even at the rate we're pushing automation now, there's still plenty of jobs. Long term we do probably get to a point where there aren't enough jobs to go around, at least lower skilled jobs. I'm fine with there being some stipend as a result, because that's better than an ever increasing wealth gap..

         oh well we've gotten to the point where you are just being bickersome. I would bet it will have the exact opposite effect even if I gave a s*** about the wealth gap.

        And sure, if they get eliminated then they get eliminated. But that's not what's happening.

         it's exactly what's happening. Businesses are doing everything they can and looking for more and more ways to bypass workers. Once they learn to do that better and more efficiently those lazy bastards will be completely worthless. Especially if people like you are insisting on giving them a salary for doing nothing.

        There's a bidding war for workers. They're being paid more because that's where the market values those workers. 

         and that bidding war assures that people with less and less skills will be making more and more money until they are eventually eliminated. How long do you think it will be before completely useless carbon units become upset because somebody else might be getting a little bit more welfare than they are?

        And with nothing else to do to take up their time than watch television and collect a check well you understand even though I'm sure you've got reason that's a positive,  millions of people with absolutely no purpose versus a small percentage who work to pass out the benefits. Do you think that sounds like a bright future? Frankly I don't think you do believe that but since it's me you're going to take the other side.

        Of course I'll be dead probably or at least maybe you will too. As far as history? We barely understand our parents struggles let alone our grandparents. The Eloi never knew there was any kind of world without Morlocks. People born in Venezuela today I have absolutely no memory of when it was a great and prosperous country. Life rolls on.

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        • W Westside Steve

          @mld-woody said:

          Why is it more than they're worth? If companies will pay them that amount then isn't that their worth?

           they become more than they are worth when their jobs are eliminated. It's pretty simple Woody.

          Consumers are generally workers. Things may cost more but workers are being paid more. And if an employer isn't paying more you'll see labor shift from that business over time. 

          Automation is coming. Decades from now we're looking at a need for Universal Basic Income. Right now it isn't nearly as easy to automate as you're making it sound. 

           but not nearly as difficult as some would like to make it seem. Some people might see a world we're almost nobody needs to do anything except stay home and wait for that check and think that's a positive step for society and Mankind.

          WSS 

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          we're looking at a need for Universal Basic Income

          Right.  That'll work.

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            @westside-steve said:

            we're looking at a need for Universal Basic Income

            Right.  That'll work.

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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            Right.  That'll work.

            That was actually Woody's line.

            WSS 

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              F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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              "glowing economic forecast" by OP 

              MSM full court press to carry this crock of sunshine up its ass

              on the heels of a defeated BUILD BACK BROKE Scheme 

              coincidence?

              you gotta figure when OP sychophants are praising biden 

              instead of brandons  zigs, watch the handlers "zags"

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              • W Westside Steve

                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Right.  That'll work.

                That was actually Woody's line.

                WSS 

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                That was actually Woody's line.

                WSS 

                I thought it quoted from him, not the first time that has happened.

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                • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                  @westside-steve said:

                  That was actually Woody's line.

                  WSS 

                  I thought it quoted from him, not the first time that has happened.

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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  I thought it quoted from him, not the first time that has happened.

                  Not really a big deal bud

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                  • F FairHooker11

                    "glowing economic forecast" by OP 

                    MSM full court press to carry this crock of sunshine up its ass

                    on the heels of a defeated BUILD BACK BROKE Scheme 

                    coincidence?

                    you gotta figure when OP sychophants are praising biden 

                    instead of brandons  zigs, watch the handlers "zags"

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                    cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                    @fairhooker11 said:

                    "glowing economic forecast" by OP 

                    MSM full court press to carry this crock of sunshine up its ass

                    on the heels of a defeated BUILD BACK BROKE Scheme 

                    coincidence?

                    you gotta figure when OP sychophants are praising biden 

                    instead of brandons  zigs, watch the handlers "zags"

                    Or you could just look at the numbers. But I know your feelings are more important than the numbers.

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                      @fairhooker11 said:

                      "glowing economic forecast" by OP 

                      MSM full court press to carry this crock of sunshine up its ass

                      on the heels of a defeated BUILD BACK BROKE Scheme 

                      coincidence?

                      you gotta figure when OP sychophants are praising biden 

                      instead of brandons  zigs, watch the handlers "zags"

                      Or you could just look at the numbers. But I know your feelings are more important than the numbers.

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                      @cccjwh said:

                      Or you could just look at the numbers. But I know your feelings are more important than the numbers.

                      haha look at the numbers?

                      ever heard the phrase -born on 3rd base but thought he hit a triple?

                      thats biden reaping good job numbers from an economy shut down in Trumps admin 

                      when job creation and economic times were at the strongest point in US history.

                      thats pretty obvious...

                      But farted out in news like the bloomberg report with no mention against inflation  (WSS and Canton Dawg points out}

                      the feelings part are real  (mine are at the gas pump) 

                      another example here with the liberal college kids (polled) do not like the loan payback restart in Jan 2022 .

                      https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/wh-panic-mode-new-data-reveals-biden-abandoned-young-voters?fbclid=IwAR1YTv2kahqysU_XHEE-sty8XRc0z-M92XfTf4Ux6sYv9G3XYka5dmeM2Sg

                      More specifically, young leftists have gotten so radical they believe voting is only perpetuating an oppressive system, and moderates might be frustrated with how inflation is financially impacting their early adulthood.

                      biden sure doesnt have alot going for him, but lets call out what the media directive is - 

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