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    @jbluhm86 said:

    I live in the Cincinnati area, so I'm happy for all my family and friends who are Bengals fans that they got to see their team make it to the big dance.

    It also pisses me off that much more that the Browns blew it this season, because we went 2-0 against the Bengals.

    So does Kentucky get to celebrate the win too?

    @neo said:

    So does Kentucky get to celebrate the win too?

    For sure, the northern half at least. Alot of good party spots near Cincinnati are actually in Covington and Newport. Open carry alcohol is a thing there too.

    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson

  • For me the frustrating part is watching cincy shut down the run..

    Yes, it's all well and good to Hope And Wish for guys who can both shut down the run and rush the passer, but those guys are a who's who of who's not coming to Cleveland. And so the Browns answer to date has been a stream of guys who are sort-of-OK at both but aren't lockdown at either one.  Bengals said F all that, just stop the interior run.. and it's working.

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  • ATOMA ATOM

    good for joe and what did they say ? that only joe nammath joe montana  have won the fbs and a super bowl will burrow make it 3 joes ?

    @atom said:

    good for joe and what did they say ? that only joe nammath joe montana  have won the fbs and a super bowl will burrow make it 3 joes ?

    Flacco

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  • AxeA Axe

    @atom said:

    good for joe and what did they say ? that only joe nammath joe montana  have won the fbs and a super bowl will burrow make it 3 joes ?

    Flacco

    @axe said:

    Flacco

    flacco won a champoinship game in collage ? i didnt know that 

  • ATOMA ATOM

    @axe said:

    Flacco

    flacco won a champoinship game in collage ? i didnt know that 

    @atom said:

    flacco won a champoinship game in collage ? i didnt know that 

    My bad, Thought we were talking SBs

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  • AxeA Axe

    @atom said:

    flacco won a champoinship game in collage ? i didnt know that 

    My bad, Thought we were talking SBs

    @axe said:

    My bad, Thought we were talking SBs

    thats cool axe but you know things happen in 3 

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  • I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    It's frustrating that the Browns do a tank job, end up with the #1 overall pick and end up with Baker Mayfield, while the Bengals do the same and end up with Joe Burrow. 

    The difference between the two outcomes of tank jobs is, IMO, going to be felt for a decade plus. 

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    If Baker doesn't ball out next year, he's done. Browns were better in almost every position and coaching than the Bengals this year except QB [edit: and WR] and the Bengals are in the Super Bowl while Browns nation is sitting here talking about "what if".

    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @tiamat63 said:

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    If Baker doesn't ball out next year, he's done. Browns were better in almost every position and coaching than the Bengals this year except QB [edit: and WR] and the Bengals are in the Super Bowl while Browns nation is sitting here talking about "what if".

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If Baker doesn't ball out next year, he's done. Browns we're better in almost every position and coaching than the Bengals this year except QB, and the Bengals are in the Super Bowl while Browns nation is sitting here talking about "what if".

    The Bengals are significantly better at the WR position too, but I get your overall point. 

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  • I would've respected Baker alot more this year if he shut it down for the year after 1-2 games after he got hurt, at the most? Would we still have sucked with Keeum playing instead of Baker? Maybe, maybe not. But by Baker being stubborn and playing while he's obviously hurt bad, he cost us several games. If he would've shut it down and had surgery earlier, he'd be well on the road to recovery and had ample time to prepare for the '22 season and nobody would really have much to burn him for. All he accomplished by being stubborn and playing through the injury was that he got himself hurt worse and hurt his team.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If Baker doesn't ball out next year, he's done. Browns we're better in almost every position and coaching than the Bengals this year except QB, and the Bengals are in the Super Bowl while Browns nation is sitting here talking about "what if".

    The Bengals are significantly better at the WR position too, but I get your overall point. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Bengals are significantly better at the WR position too, but I get your overall point. 

    Browns spend 124.3M on offense..Defense 65.6M.... QB's 27.2M....Offensive Line..47.2M*

    Bengals spend 67.1M on offense.. Defense 85.5M.... QB's  9.8M......Offensive Line..20.9M*

    Burrow's OL looks as bad as the Seattle SB runs...It's not bothered Burrow 1 iota.. Oddly..they must have backed OBJ's salary out? Says we match the WR Bengals around 19M  

    https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/

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  • Interesting case studies this postseason…

    Bengals- Jonah Williams and a patchwork line around him.  They needed a lineman but took a WR in the top 10.  
     

    Rams- traded away every pick they own for veterans to complete their roster all this happened after aggressively going after a QB in the offseason.  Their old QB played in a SB for them a couple seasons ago. 

  • gumby73G gumby73

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Bengals are significantly better at the WR position too, but I get your overall point. 

    Browns spend 124.3M on offense..Defense 65.6M.... QB's 27.2M....Offensive Line..47.2M*

    Bengals spend 67.1M on offense.. Defense 85.5M.... QB's  9.8M......Offensive Line..20.9M*

    Burrow's OL looks as bad as the Seattle SB runs...It's not bothered Burrow 1 iota.. Oddly..they must have backed OBJ's salary out? Says we match the WR Bengals around 19M  

    https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/

    @gumby73 said:

    Browns spend 124.3M on offense..Defense 65.6M.... QB's 27.2M....Offensive Line..47.2M*

    Bengals spend 67.1M on offense.. Defense 85.5M.... QB's  9.8M......Offensive Line..20.9M*

    Burrow's OL looks as bad as the Seattle SB runs...It's not bothered Burrow 1 iota.. Oddly..they must have backed OBJ's salary out? Says we match the WR Bengals around 19M  

    https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/

    It hurts the Browns' cap space for not drafting their wide receivers. Obj and Landry were about 14 million or more each, and hooper gets big money this coming season. The Bengals drafted all three of their starting wr's - Boyd, Tee Higgins and Ja'Marr Chase. Paying top money to get a big name wr costs a lot more. And the Bengals would LOVE to have the Browns' offensive line. I just wonder if Hooper and Landry fit into their plans for next year, they cost so much.

  • I don't see Hooper or Landry on the Browns next year. 

  • D BoneD D Bone

    I don't see Hooper or Landry on the Browns next year. 

    @d-bone said:

    I don't see Hooper or Landry on the Browns next year. 

    You may be correct. I like Jay Rose, University of Connecticut in a late round

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Bengals are significantly better at the WR position too, but I get your overall point. 

    Browns spend 124.3M on offense..Defense 65.6M.... QB's 27.2M....Offensive Line..47.2M*

    Bengals spend 67.1M on offense.. Defense 85.5M.... QB's  9.8M......Offensive Line..20.9M*

    Burrow's OL looks as bad as the Seattle SB runs...It's not bothered Burrow 1 iota.. Oddly..they must have backed OBJ's salary out? Says we match the WR Bengals around 19M  

    https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/

    @gumby73 said:

    Browns spend 124.3M on offense..Defense 65.6M.... QB's 27.2M....Offensive Line..47.2M*

    Bengals spend 67.1M on offense.. Defense 85.5M.... QB's  9.8M......Offensive Line..20.9M*

    Burrow's OL looks as bad as the Seattle SB runs...It's not bothered Burrow 1 iota.. Oddly..they must have backed OBJ's salary out? Says we match the WR Bengals around 19M  

    https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/

    FWIW, Burrow did a couple Houdini acts to avoid getting sacked, and turned them into first downs.  Raise your hand if you think Baker could have done the same... 🙂 

    Ben retires, and now we have to deal with Joe for the next 10 years, barring injury.   Bet the Bengals pick in the upcoming draft is going to be OL.... 

  • Through Sunday, Los Angeles ranked first in pass block win rate, pass rush win rate and run stop win rate. 

    Rams win because of their line play.  The rest may very well get more headlines but when it's time for the phrase "the straw that stirs the drink" that's OL and DL.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @tiamat63 said:

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    If Baker doesn't ball out next year, he's done. Browns were better in almost every position and coaching than the Bengals this year except QB [edit: and WR] and the Bengals are in the Super Bowl while Browns nation is sitting here talking about "what if".

    @jbluhm86 said:

    If Baker doesn't ball out next year, he's done. Browns were better in almost every position and coaching than the Bengals this year except QB [edit: and WR] and the Bengals are in the Super Bowl while Browns nation is sitting here talking about "what if".

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's frustrating that the Browns do a tank job, end up with the #1 overall pick and end up with Baker Mayfield, while the Bengals do the same and end up with Joe Burrow. 

    The difference between the two outcomes of tank jobs is, IMO, going to be felt for a decade plus. 

    Of course, with growth in coaching, it's entirely possible to run into a situation like what we saw with SF vs GB.

    Packers have a superior QB and individual receiver, but Niners have better trench play, a complete receiving corps, and better coaches. 

    The majority of the time good sense dictates having the better QB.  But Kyle Shanahan was 4 points away from going 2 of the last 3 to the SuperBowl with Jimmy G under center.

    You don't *NEED* Joe Burrow, but damn it, the smartest path with the most return chances squarely tends to rest on a great QB.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I said it before and ill say it again- Joe Burrow is the easiest QB eval I've done since Andrew Luck.  

    Hurts to see him in Cincy and not CLE - where the bastion of Buckeye support is.

    Yep- as I said in a previous thread it's amazing how sucking at the right time impacts a team's history. Joey Brrr was a slam dunk number one pick for a team who needed a QB. On top of that, you have in some ways a homegrown kid who wants to be there. Then, COVID and all that dictates Chase for all intents and purposes falling into Cincy's lap as well. Dude is just a winner on top of all that too.

    While you can underestimate coaching, development etc, this dude was gonna be elite no matter where we went. Of course, it fucking figures it's a team we play twice a year right as the dude who owned the Browns in Pitt retires. 

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