I don't go to the NFL for my morals
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People don't understand that when you're in the public eye, you are held to a higher standard...because you become a role model. Like it or not. The young kids look up to them. They are being molded by what they see and experience. Now, guys can avoid this 'higher standard' thing. They can instead go work at Dunkin Donuts.
People don't understand that when you're in the public eye, you are held to a higher standard...because you become a role model. Like it or not. The young kids look up to them. They are being molded by what they see and experience. Now, guys can avoid this 'higher standard' thing. They can instead go work at Dunkin Donuts.
Who the hell looks up to an NFL player?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
People don't understand that when you're in the public eye, you are held to a higher standard...because you become a role model. Like it or not. The young kids look up to them. They are being molded by what they see and experience. Now, guys can avoid this 'higher standard' thing. They can instead go work at Dunkin Donuts.
People don't understand that when you're in the public eye, you are held to a higher standard...because you become a role model. Like it or not. The young kids look up to them. They are being molded by what they see and experience. Now, guys can avoid this 'higher standard' thing. They can instead go work at Dunkin Donuts.
Exactly. But it's not just kids who are impacted by what they experience and how they process it. We all have to resolve the tensions with us. But many don't understand this and even worse, insist on denying what they don't understand.
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People don't understand that when you're in the public eye, you are held to a higher standard...because you become a role model. Like it or not. The young kids look up to them. They are being molded by what they see and experience. Now, guys can avoid this 'higher standard' thing. They can instead go work at Dunkin Donuts.
Who the hell looks up to an NFL player?
Who the hell looks up to an NFL player?
Maybe for kids it's about looking up to an NFL player. For adults, it's the underlying moral theme that seeps into our psyche.
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Who the hell looks up to an NFL player?
Maybe for kids it's about looking up to an NFL player. For adults, it's the underlying moral theme that seeps into our psyche.
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I don't go to the NFL for my morels, either.
Usually it is a grocery store.
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Zombo said:
No violence, no kids, these women were all adults... if you're offended that he tried to get more than a massage with these ladies, then you and your holier than thou attitude is the problem.
Z
I hear that. And he's single. I was explaining to a coworker, Heck, if I was 20 somethin', rich, single, and into messages, I don't know if I can say for 100% certain that I wouldn't ask for the royal treatment. My coworker said, I would every time.
I'm just sayin'...if you're famous, you're in the spotlight and the cross-hairs at the same time. And if you're a star QB in the NFL, then you're famous. And yes, kids idolize you. Last week I watched my 6 & 8 year old grandsons at flag football instructional practice. First time for the little one. When he got by the defender in the hand-off and run drill...and got to the end of the cones...scoring his first ever TD, he did the cutest little dance. I was smiling ear to ear, chuckling.......but if it was the 1960's he wouldn't have been doing a dance. They are what they see. (Joe Walsh - Too bad for the children, they ARE what they see)
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Zombo said:
No violence, no kids, these women were all adults... if you're offended that he tried to get more than a massage with these ladies, then you and your holier than thou attitude is the problem.
Z
I hear that. And he's single. I was explaining to a coworker, Heck, if I was 20 somethin', rich, single, and into messages, I don't know if I can say for 100% certain that I wouldn't ask for the royal treatment. My coworker said, I would every time.
I'm just sayin'...if you're famous, you're in the spotlight and the cross-hairs at the same time. And if you're a star QB in the NFL, then you're famous. And yes, kids idolize you. Last week I watched my 6 & 8 year old grandsons at flag football instructional practice. First time for the little one. When he got by the defender in the hand-off and run drill...and got to the end of the cones...scoring his first ever TD, he did the cutest little dance. I was smiling ear to ear, chuckling.......but if it was the 1960's he wouldn't have been doing a dance. They are what they see. (Joe Walsh - Too bad for the children, they ARE what they see)
I hear that. And he's single. I was explaining to a coworker, Heck, if I was 20 somethin', rich, single, and into messages, I don't know if I can say for 100% certain that I wouldn't ask for the royal treatment. My coworker said, I would every time.
I'm just sayin'...if you're famous, you're in the spotlight and the cross-hairs at the same time. And if you're a star QB in the NFL, then you're famous. And yes, kids idolize you. Last week I watched my 6 & 8 year old grandsons at flag football instructional practice. First time for the little one. When he got by the defender in the hand-off and run drill...and got to the end of the cones...scoring his first ever TD, he did the cutest little dance. I was smiling ear to ear, chuckling.......but if it was the 1960's he wouldn't have been doing a dance. They are what they see. (Joe Walsh - Too bad for the children, they ARE what they see)
Exactly...and its weird that the all got the same attorney and it's just so happens to be the neighbor of the Texans owner...there over 75,000 attorneys in Texas....what are the chances...
Right....but only to a degree. Yes, your kid did a dance after a touchdown he saw ( I used to yell Jordan on fadeaways) but you are teaching him fatherhood with your parenting. You are the biggest and strongest influence in his life. I used to imitate Jordan on the court but I didn't think I could go cursing people out, treating them like trash, pay gambling debts off to mobsters...etc..cuz at the end of the day.as explainedto me thoroughly by my Mom.. I wasn't him.
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I hear that. And he's single. I was explaining to a coworker, Heck, if I was 20 somethin', rich, single, and into messages, I don't know if I can say for 100% certain that I wouldn't ask for the royal treatment. My coworker said, I would every time.
I'm just sayin'...if you're famous, you're in the spotlight and the cross-hairs at the same time. And if you're a star QB in the NFL, then you're famous. And yes, kids idolize you. Last week I watched my 6 & 8 year old grandsons at flag football instructional practice. First time for the little one. When he got by the defender in the hand-off and run drill...and got to the end of the cones...scoring his first ever TD, he did the cutest little dance. I was smiling ear to ear, chuckling.......but if it was the 1960's he wouldn't have been doing a dance. They are what they see. (Joe Walsh - Too bad for the children, they ARE what they see)
Exactly...and its weird that the all got the same attorney and it's just so happens to be the neighbor of the Texans owner...there over 75,000 attorneys in Texas....what are the chances...
Right....but only to a degree. Yes, your kid did a dance after a touchdown he saw ( I used to yell Jordan on fadeaways) but you are teaching him fatherhood with your parenting. You are the biggest and strongest influence in his life. I used to imitate Jordan on the court but I didn't think I could go cursing people out, treating them like trash, pay gambling debts off to mobsters...etc..cuz at the end of the day.as explainedto me thoroughly by my Mom.. I wasn't him.
Exactly...and its weird that the all got the same attorney and it's just so happens to be the neighbor of the Texans owner...there over 75,000 attorneys in Texas....what are the chances…
What are the chances. . .?
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Exactly...and its weird that the all got the same attorney and it's just so happens to be the neighbor of the Texans owner...there over 75,000 attorneys in Texas....what are the chances…
What are the chances. . .?
What are the chances. . .?
That's only a little weird. Haslam sent the private investigators,, they came back with good news and possibly recommended the attorney. That's not new amongst the wealthy and famous..
The Texans owner and the women's attorney relationship is weird and could be criminal. The FBI got involved....they're not going to get involved because of a quarterback and happy endings that don't even cross state lines.
The FBI will get involved over a potential conspiracy charge involving a billionaire owner and a attorney setting up said quarterback
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As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
Fair Point. So both are okay or neither is okay?
WSS
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As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
Fair Point. So both are okay or neither is okay?
WSS
Fair Point. So both are okay or neither is okay?
WSS
Problem is either innocent or 1 of them or neither?
That's what got to be answered first
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As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
It still does not excuse Watson for being a DUMB FUCK and getting himself into this mess... Which had he used his fucking head... All couldve been avoided.
So whats to stop him from doing more stupid shit?
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As another person mentioned earlier in the thread, Jim Brown is considered to be the greatest Cleveland Browns player in the franchise's history, and probably one of it's most beloved players by Browns fans, many on here included.
He's also confirmed to be a giant fuckin' scumbag when it comes to women.
But sure, go ahead and give your Browns fandom up over someone who's had two grand juries decline to indict him due to lack of evidence and instead continue to idolize a confirmed woman beater and alleged rapist, who actually served jail time for the former charge.
It still does not excuse Watson for being a DUMB FUCK and getting himself into this mess... Which had he used his fucking head... All couldve been avoided.
So whats to stop him from doing more stupid shit?
It still does not excuse Watson for being a DUMB FUCK and getting himself into this mess... Which had he used his fucking head... All couldve been avoided.
So whats to stop him from doing more stupid shit?
Most rich, famous dudes in their 20s do stupid sh@#.....
Heck...take away rich and famous and they still do stupid sh@# that can be avoided.
Nothing new......less and less are caring
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It still does not excuse Watson for being a DUMB FUCK and getting himself into this mess... Which had he used his fucking head... All couldve been avoided.
So whats to stop him from doing more stupid shit?
Most rich, famous dudes in their 20s do stupid sh@#.....
Heck...take away rich and famous and they still do stupid sh@# that can be avoided.
Nothing new......less and less are caring
Most rich, famous dudes in their 20s do stupid sh@#.....
Heck...take away rich and famous and they still do stupid sh@# that can be avoided.
Nothing new......less and less are caring
And put one more big important variable into this equation a virtual unlimited amount of cash to do whatever a young 20-something wants to do with it.
Some like cars, big houses, fishing, saving money or whatever. Ask yourself what would you do in the same situation ?
Remember Ryan Leaf, Johnny football among others that chose poorly.
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Most rich, famous dudes in their 20s do stupid sh@#.....
Heck...take away rich and famous and they still do stupid sh@# that can be avoided.
Nothing new......less and less are caring
And put one more big important variable into this equation a virtual unlimited amount of cash to do whatever a young 20-something wants to do with it.
Some like cars, big houses, fishing, saving money or whatever. Ask yourself what would you do in the same situation ?
Remember Ryan Leaf, Johnny football among others that chose poorly.
And put one more big important variable into this equation a virtual unlimited amount of cash to do whatever a young 20-something wants to do with it.
Some like cars, big houses, fishing, saving money or whatever. Ask yourself what would you do in the same situation ?
Remember Ryan Leaf, Johnny football among others that chose poorly.
Not even so much the money but the fact that you have been pandered to your whole wife as soon as people knew you were a world-class athlete and would soon be rich.
None of the hangers on or going to tell you that what you're doing is f***** up.
And if he actually did what they say he did it's not just stupid stuff. Buying 50 muscle cars or a 50 million dollar mansion is stupid stuff.
WSS
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And put one more big important variable into this equation a virtual unlimited amount of cash to do whatever a young 20-something wants to do with it.
Some like cars, big houses, fishing, saving money or whatever. Ask yourself what would you do in the same situation ?
Remember Ryan Leaf, Johnny football among others that chose poorly.
Not even so much the money but the fact that you have been pandered to your whole wife as soon as people knew you were a world-class athlete and would soon be rich.
None of the hangers on or going to tell you that what you're doing is f***** up.
And if he actually did what they say he did it's not just stupid stuff. Buying 50 muscle cars or a 50 million dollar mansion is stupid stuff.
WSS
Not even so much the money but the fact that you have been pandered to your whole wife as soon as people knew you were a world-class athlete and would soon be rich.
None of the hangers on or going to tell you that what you're doing is f***** up.
And if he actually did what they say he did it's not just stupid stuff. Buying 50 muscle cars or a 50 million dollar mansion is stupid stuff.
WSS
Or doing what MC Hammer did giving his money away to lazy bums...Who did NOTHING...
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Not even so much the money but the fact that you have been pandered to your whole wife as soon as people knew you were a world-class athlete and would soon be rich.
None of the hangers on or going to tell you that what you're doing is f***** up.
And if he actually did what they say he did it's not just stupid stuff. Buying 50 muscle cars or a 50 million dollar mansion is stupid stuff.
WSS
Or doing what MC Hammer did giving his money away to lazy bums...Who did NOTHING...
Or doing what MC Hammer did giving his money away to lazy bums...Who did NOTHING...
Attorneys, Doctors, Politicians....etc...young, dumb and do all type of crap.
We had a President who had 25 sex allegations who was also raw dogging pornstarstars while having a pregnant wife....
I worked with a criminal defense attorney out of law school.....trust me.......happy endings is nothing....ask Jim Irsay the Colts owner
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