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  • Wow the Press Conference. 

    good tough questions.  Some very leading of course…talking about the 22 cases and not the criminal charges that are being dropped the past couple weeks.  Scripted as though the allegations are still pending some criminal resolution…but they aren’t.

    I thought Andrew Berry was very good…changed his tone and was soft spoken on the “hard” questions.  

    not a lot to take away from Deshaun speaking other than his Legal team coaching him up really well. 

    I thought Good damage control overall.

    The nuggets I got…I think they expect an NFL suspension.

    They had doubts about Baker during the year (probably much sooner than that) we have a good portion of folks on here that understand the limitations he had.  
     

    maybe they weren’t turning over stones in regard to Rodgers and Wilson…they like that Watson is in his prime. 

  • @hoorta said:

    I hope so...  

    Well, if Harris County won't do your bidding, pick another county.  Darn, I wish the Gipper was still with us to weigh in.  If the said offense didn't happen in your county, how can you convene a grand jury there?   

    Deshaun Watson: Second grand jury declines to indict Cleveland Browns quarterback on criminal charges

    Brazoria County prosecutor: Grand jury declined to indict Watson following review of evidence, witness testimony

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/deshaun-watson-second-grand-jury-declines-indict-cleveland-browns-quarterback-criminal-charges

    Rusty Hardin, one of Watson’s attorneys, told FOX 8 Cleveland that a complaint had been filed by one of the women who are involved in the 22 civil lawsuits levied at the former Houston Texans quarterback.

    A Harris County grand jury dismissed nine of 10 criminal complaints against Watson earlier this month, setting the path for the Texans to trade Watson to the Browns last week.

    Hardin said the complaint wasn't new and that officials wanted to wait until the Harris County grand jury finished its deliberations before the next case was presented.

    @vambo said:

    Deshaun Watson: Second grand jury declines to indict Cleveland Browns quarterback on criminal charges

    Brazoria County prosecutor: Grand jury declined to indict Watson following review of evidence, witness testimony

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/deshaun-watson-second-grand-jury-declines-indict-cleveland-browns-quarterback-criminal-charges

    There's Yinzer fans who still swear Mark Malone was an awesome QB. Vag is prolly one of them.

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  • Deshaun Watson Breaks Down Reading Naked Routes, Red Zone Plays, & More | NFL Film Session

  • I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.

    I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.

  • I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.

    I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.

    @ballpeen said:

    I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.

    I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.

    The oft injured with a sock tackle Evan Moorecelain Doll.

  • heck..."Hospital" Ward is one I am proud of.

  • heck..."Hospital" Ward is one I am proud of.

    @ballpeen said:

    heck..."Hospital" Ward is one I am proud of.

    OBJ-yn

  • Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)

    @69rixter said:

    Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)

    1) Watson has made the Pro Bowl and led the league in passing yards on a crappy team- Baker hasn't. Ia has pointed out the next round of QB contracts in a couple years (Burrow et al) are going to make Watson's look cheap by comparison. 

    2) The latest news in the NFL is teams are throwing draft picks around like confetti.   https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-add-second-2022-first-round-draft-pick-in-multi-pick-trade-with-eagles  Watson was our first round pick this year.  

    3)  Hmmm... Landry, Tretter, and Clowney are all still unsigned by the entire league. Ring any bells? Their asking price happens to be too high- not only for the Browns but anyone else FWIW.   

  • Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)

    @69rixter said:

    "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him...

    umm...it's not the same NFL anymore.  It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary.  Teams don't want to take that on.  That's why the players are simply released now.  And Tretter...we drafted a center.  This can't be a surprise.  Plus he's the prez of the player's union.  He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.

    I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team.  I don't see Landry coming back though.  Kind of a matter of pride.  He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.

  • @69rixter said:

    "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him...

    umm...it's not the same NFL anymore.  It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary.  Teams don't want to take that on.  That's why the players are simply released now.  And Tretter...we drafted a center.  This can't be a surprise.  Plus he's the prez of the player's union.  He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.

    I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team.  I don't see Landry coming back though.  Kind of a matter of pride.  He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.

    @orion said:

    umm...it's not the same NFL anymore.  It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary.  Teams don't want to take that on.  That's why the players are simply released now.  And Tretter...we drafted a center.  This can't be a surprise.  Plus he's the prez of the player's union.  He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.

    I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team.  I don't see Landry coming back though.  Kind of a matter of pride.  He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.

    Exactamundo Orion.  Landry's supposed asking price was WR top shelf $20 million a year. He's not worth that anymore. Didn't cost us anything to release him either BTW.  So unless the three are willing to take significant pay cuts, they're going to be sitting by the phone waiting for a team to have an injury at their respective positions and hope that they can get something close to what they think they're worth. The Browns are more than willing to take all of them back- at the right price. Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.    🙂   

  • @orion said:

    umm...it's not the same NFL anymore.  It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary.  Teams don't want to take that on.  That's why the players are simply released now.  And Tretter...we drafted a center.  This can't be a surprise.  Plus he's the prez of the player's union.  He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.

    I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team.  I don't see Landry coming back though.  Kind of a matter of pride.  He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.

    Exactamundo Orion.  Landry's supposed asking price was WR top shelf $20 million a year. He's not worth that anymore. Didn't cost us anything to release him either BTW.  So unless the three are willing to take significant pay cuts, they're going to be sitting by the phone waiting for a team to have an injury at their respective positions and hope that they can get something close to what they think they're worth. The Browns are more than willing to take all of them back- at the right price. Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.    🙂   

    @hoorta said:

    Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.    🙂   

    He's a mercenary.  But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.  🙂

  • @hoorta said:

    Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.    🙂   

    He's a mercenary.  But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.  🙂

    @orion said:

    He's a mercenary.  But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.  🙂

    I already said something to that effect elsewhere.. Agreed...

  • @hoorta said:

    Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.    🙂   

    He's a mercenary.  But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.  🙂

    @orion said:

    He's a mercenary.  But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.  🙂

    I wonder if Watson will do training camp? And OTAs? Stefanski seems like the kind of guy that lets Rich players slack off. Then they get hurt.

    I guess a lot of that depends on how in shape these guys stay during the offseason.

    WSS

  • QB's don't skip training camp.  Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.  

     Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.

  • QB's don't skip training camp.  Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.  

     Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.

    @tiamat63 said:

    QB's don't skip training camp.  Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.  

     Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.

    So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.

    ?

    WSS

  • @tiamat63 said:

    QB's don't skip training camp.  Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.  

     Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.

    So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.

    ?

    WSS

    For some odd reason I actually pictured this and literally laughed out loud

  • @tiamat63 said:

    QB's don't skip training camp.  Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.  

     Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.

    So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.

    ?

    WSS

    I'm genuinely curious about something Steve, and this is not meant to be snarky.

    Since I've been on this board, of all the moderators or longtime guys on here, you really don't post that often on the Browns forum. You have your movie forum, the Shrine to Deep Thought that is the political forum, but you really don't post very much on the actual Browns forum. Not during 1-31, or the playoff run of 2020. 

    Until it appeared Baker Mayfield was going to lose his starting job, and then did lose his starting job. Now you are on here consistently. I'm just curious to why now.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.

    ?

    WSS

    I'm genuinely curious about something Steve, and this is not meant to be snarky.

    Since I've been on this board, of all the moderators or longtime guys on here, you really don't post that often on the Browns forum. You have your movie forum, the Shrine to Deep Thought that is the political forum, but you really don't post very much on the actual Browns forum. Not during 1-31, or the playoff run of 2020. 

    Until it appeared Baker Mayfield was going to lose his starting job, and then did lose his starting job. Now you are on here consistently. I'm just curious to why now.  

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm just curious

    Perhaps I haven't been here long enough...but I haven't noticed much of a difference in his posting frequency.  He always posts Pluto updates.  Maybe I don't pay close enough attention.