Schefter: Watson to Browns
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More than just obnoxious and embarrassing..its immature to a point where it's childish and his talent doesn't outweigh it. You see any teammates coming to his defense? There's a reason.
Bench him? You forget how Baker ran to the press and stated only he makes the decision for him to sit? In combination of the medical staff clearing him then wtf are you supposed to do other than play him? He's the no.1 pick who just helped win a road playoff game against Pittsburgh. Baker bet on himself, put the contract before his team well being...and lost.
I disagree. Them getting Watson might be their best move yet. Money means very little to me because in 2 seasons the next contract for a elite QB is 60 mill a year...Watch what Burrow and Herbert get.
As in Watson's criminal case...dead. civil suits...we will see. I think Brisset can hold the fort down for a bit until the suspension.
As in go all in with Baker this year...you wanna go to war against Lamar, Wilson, Mahomes, Burrows, Herbert, Josh Allen ...with Baker? How many seasons Chubb, Garrett, Wars, Hunt...etc have?
Not a fan of Haslam..never really been. But Baker is the author of all his ills. Imagine if he would've just STFU and got surgery last year? He would've gotten a contract I gauarantee....
Heck, After Watson turned the Browns down he could've swallowed a little pride and got a contract in that window.....naw...he gonna go " trade me to the Colts "
Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business.
For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....
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Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business.
For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....
Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business.
For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....
Well I guess your response doesn't surprise me. Of course the bitch from the dumbass Texans that you're getting hard over hasn't been that easy to get along with has he?
WSS
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Jim Brown or Barry Sanders?
What is the question?
Better running back?
Better woman beater?
What is the question?
Better running back?
Better woman beater?
Better pure nunning back, Barry. Better woman beater, Jimmy Brown all day. Smack a ho. Balconies are only two stories.
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Wow the Press Conference.
good tough questions. Some very leading of course…talking about the 22 cases and not the criminal charges that are being dropped the past couple weeks. Scripted as though the allegations are still pending some criminal resolution…but they aren’t.
I thought Andrew Berry was very good…changed his tone and was soft spoken on the “hard” questions.
not a lot to take away from Deshaun speaking other than his Legal team coaching him up really well.
I thought Good damage control overall.
The nuggets I got…I think they expect an NFL suspension.
They had doubts about Baker during the year (probably much sooner than that) we have a good portion of folks on here that understand the limitations he had.
maybe they weren’t turning over stones in regard to Rodgers and Wilson…they like that Watson is in his prime.
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I hope so...
Well, if Harris County won't do your bidding, pick another county. Darn, I wish the Gipper was still with us to weigh in. If the said offense didn't happen in your county, how can you convene a grand jury there?
Deshaun Watson: Second grand jury declines to indict Cleveland Browns quarterback on criminal charges
Brazoria County prosecutor: Grand jury declined to indict Watson following review of evidence, witness testimony
Rusty Hardin, one of Watson’s attorneys, told FOX 8 Cleveland that a complaint had been filed by one of the women who are involved in the 22 civil lawsuits levied at the former Houston Texans quarterback.
A Harris County grand jury dismissed nine of 10 criminal complaints against Watson earlier this month, setting the path for the Texans to trade Watson to the Browns last week.
Hardin said the complaint wasn't new and that officials wanted to wait until the Harris County grand jury finished its deliberations before the next case was presented.
Deshaun Watson: Second grand jury declines to indict Cleveland Browns quarterback on criminal charges
Brazoria County prosecutor: Grand jury declined to indict Watson following review of evidence, witness testimony
There's Yinzer fans who still swear Mark Malone was an awesome QB. Vag is prolly one of them.
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I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.
I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.
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I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.
I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.
I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.
I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.
The oft injured with a sock tackle Evan Moorecelain Doll.
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heck..."Hospital" Ward is one I am proud of.
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Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)
Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)
1) Watson has made the Pro Bowl and led the league in passing yards on a crappy team- Baker hasn't. Ia has pointed out the next round of QB contracts in a couple years (Burrow et al) are going to make Watson's look cheap by comparison.
2) The latest news in the NFL is teams are throwing draft picks around like confetti. https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-add-second-2022-first-round-draft-pick-in-multi-pick-trade-with-eagles Watson was our first round pick this year.
3) Hmmm... Landry, Tretter, and Clowney are all still unsigned by the entire league. Ring any bells? Their asking price happens to be too high- not only for the Browns but anyone else FWIW.
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Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)
"dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him...
umm...it's not the same NFL anymore. It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary. Teams don't want to take that on. That's why the players are simply released now. And Tretter...we drafted a center. This can't be a surprise. Plus he's the prez of the player's union. He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.
I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team. I don't see Landry coming back though. Kind of a matter of pride. He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.
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"dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him...
umm...it's not the same NFL anymore. It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary. Teams don't want to take that on. That's why the players are simply released now. And Tretter...we drafted a center. This can't be a surprise. Plus he's the prez of the player's union. He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.
I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team. I don't see Landry coming back though. Kind of a matter of pride. He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.
umm...it's not the same NFL anymore. It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary. Teams don't want to take that on. That's why the players are simply released now. And Tretter...we drafted a center. This can't be a surprise. Plus he's the prez of the player's union. He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.
I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team. I don't see Landry coming back though. Kind of a matter of pride. He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.
Exactamundo Orion. Landry's supposed asking price was WR top shelf $20 million a year. He's not worth that anymore. Didn't cost us anything to release him either BTW. So unless the three are willing to take significant pay cuts, they're going to be sitting by the phone waiting for a team to have an injury at their respective positions and hope that they can get something close to what they think they're worth. The Browns are more than willing to take all of them back- at the right price. Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.
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umm...it's not the same NFL anymore. It's hard to trade an aging player with a large salary. Teams don't want to take that on. That's why the players are simply released now. And Tretter...we drafted a center. This can't be a surprise. Plus he's the prez of the player's union. He's a great guy, everyone knows that, but it's still a PITA to have the union prez on the team.
I'd want Tretter, Landry and Clowny on our team. I don't see Landry coming back though. Kind of a matter of pride. He's gone because he wanted too much money so he'll probably just take less elsewhere rather than come crawling back to Berry and Co.
Exactamundo Orion. Landry's supposed asking price was WR top shelf $20 million a year. He's not worth that anymore. Didn't cost us anything to release him either BTW. So unless the three are willing to take significant pay cuts, they're going to be sitting by the phone waiting for a team to have an injury at their respective positions and hope that they can get something close to what they think they're worth. The Browns are more than willing to take all of them back- at the right price. Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.
Supposedly the Browns have already offered Clowney two years and $24 million, and he's not interested... YET.
He's a mercenary. But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.
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He's a mercenary. But he's a mercenary that doesn't want to do training camp.
I wonder if Watson will do training camp? And OTAs? Stefanski seems like the kind of guy that lets Rich players slack off. Then they get hurt.
I guess a lot of that depends on how in shape these guys stay during the offseason.
WSS
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QB's don't skip training camp. Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.
Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.
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QB's don't skip training camp. Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.
Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.
QB's don't skip training camp. Especially new ones with as much of a learning curve as Watson will have between new receivers, coaches and language.
Signal callers are there unless there's a contact dispute.
So far; unprecedented times ya know. Quarter of a billion guaranteed I might not show up until game day with a bag of donuts and a six pack.
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WSS
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