2022 Draft Prospects and off-season addition breakdowns.

[Unsympathetic]

Here's the RAS of Taven Bryan.  This guy is an elite athlete even at the NFL level and yet he's now firmly in the "bust" discussion.  Even guys with the measurables don't make it.

Here's Hamilton's again.  He is... not a jack of all trades.. more like an 7.  He can't cover man-to-man and his hitting makes nobody forget about Kam Chancellor.  Elite short-area quickness is the foundational requirement these days for the NFL and that's the weakness of his game.

Here's the benefit of letting a DB with average quickness get used to NFL speed and not playing him until he's actually ready to play without thinking.. AJ Green PFF.. I didn't know he played that well either.. if you take someone round1 he doesn't get to sit a season.  AJ was absolutely not ready in 2020..

This is NOT to say that KH isn't a decent athlete who won't be wearing some NFL jersey until 2032. It's to say that if you take him round 1 you have expectations which won't be met.. If someone with KH's skillset was available in the 4th, that's a value pick and then his weaknesses are OK because "Eh, Round 4 Guy".  

[gumby73]

imo.. Hamilton will become shuffled to a hybrid LB playing status, just as Isaiah Simmons is being used now in Zona .. Same draft hype as Simmons received.. 

[tiamat63]

@gumby73 said:

imo.. Hamilton will become shuffled to a hybrid LB playing status, just as Isaiah Simmons is being used now in Zona .. Same draft hype as Simmons received.. 

Simmons isn't a "hybrid".  He's just a weakside backer now.   Snap counts by alignment...

- Simmons 94 snaps on the defensive line, 229 in the box, 66 in the slot, one at free safety, and eight at outside cornerback

[gumby73]

@tiamat63 said:

Simmons isn't a "hybrid".  He's just a weakside backer now.   Snap counts by alignment...

- Simmons 94 snaps on the defensive line, 229 in the box, 66 in the clot, one at free safety, and eight at outside cornerback

as he should be.. the Simmons draft label of 'jack of all d positions' lasted all of one year... I don't think Hamilton can win a 40 vs Andrew 'slow' Sendejo? ?  top 10 is a reach

[MLD Woody]

@gumby73 said:

imo.. Hamilton will become shuffled to a hybrid LB playing status, just as Isaiah Simmons is being used now in Zona .. Same draft hype as Simmons received.. 

Simmons hype was a lot higher 

[ballpeen]

JOM, but some are getting way worked up over a player we don't have much of a chance at drafting.  I'll admit I haven't gone back to get the back story on all the hamilton beef, but what are we doing here?

[TexasAg1969]

@ballpeen said:

JOM, but some are getting way worked up over a player we don't have much of a chance at drafting.  I'll admit I haven't gone back to get the back story on all the hamilton beef, but what are we doing here?

Mental masturbation until draft pick 43 is done. Helps pass the time and gives us an idea of what others are getting before the Browns finally get to their first pick @44.?

https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-order-for-all-seven-rounds

[tiamat63]

@ballpeen said:

JOM, but some are getting way worked up over a player we don't have much of a chance at drafting.  I'll admit I haven't gone back to get the back story on all the hamilton beef, but what are we doing here?

Maybe I'm reading the room wrong, but I don't see anyone getting worked up. 

Just some good, passionate type talk here.

[Dutch Oven]

@ballpeen said:

JOM, but some are getting way worked up over a player we don't have much of a chance at drafting.  I'll admit I haven't gone back to get the back story on all the hamilton beef, but what are we doing here?

We're talking about a player in the upcoming draft in a thread about players in the upcoming draft. ?

[gumby73]

@tiamat63 said:

13.33% drop rate? To quote the immortal Randy Jackson - that's a no from me dawg.

we knew somebody would get around to posting these...

Ben Linsey

 

@PFF_Linsey

Career drop rates..

 

*George Pickens: 2.1%

*Skyy Moore: 3.3%

Chris Olave: 4.7%

*Jahan Dotson: 5.1%

Drake London: 5.7

*Alec Pierce: 6.4%

Garrett Wilson: 6.8%

*Justyn Ross: 7.1%

Treylon Burks: 7.4% (falling)

Jameson Williams: 7.7%

*Jalen Tolbert: 8.4%

*Christian Watson: 12.7% (falling)

 

* pick #44, with 2nd round grades may not be high enough?

[gumby73]

Is somethings brewing at RB 2 or 3 ? either trading Hunt? or gain a 2nd rounder, while losing D'Ernest Johnson at tagged tendered?  

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/4/12/23022450/cleveland-browns-running-back-dernest-johnson-switches-agents

I've heard some RB draftee interviews, saying they 'have a 30 team visit with the Browns'... ?

[ballpeen]

@gumby73 said:

Is somethings brewing at RB 2 or 3 ? either trading Hunt? or gain a 2nd rounder, while losing D'Ernest Johnson at tagged tendered?  

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/4/12/23022450/cleveland-browns-running-back-dernest-johnson-switches-agents

I've heard some RB draftee interviews, saying they 'have a 30 team visit with the Browns'... ?

Berry does draft a few year ahead.  I could see where we might not keep Chubb in a few years.

[Unsympathetic]

For those of you who do Hulu Live, they just added ESPN+ [and Disney+] for free.. So much prospect video content..

[tiamat63]

@unsympathetic said:

For those of you who do Hulu Live, they just added ESPN+ [and Disney+] for free.. So much prospect video content..

Yeah, probably going to be making the switch to Hulu Live and forgo YT TV for next season. 

[nickers]

I would love for us to acquire Olave... I just think he's the smoothest and most fluid receiver in the draft... But I'm certain he won't be there for us...Drake London looks more like a body catcher than a hands catcher... He's physical.. I'll give him that..  But that's where it ends for me on London... I like the other Ohio State kid Garrett Wilson.. I would like for him to have another year with the Bucs before going Pro... But I get it... The money is just too strong to resist.

[Unsympathetic]

@tiamat63 said:

Yeah, probably going to be making the switch to Hulu Live and forgo YT TV for next season. 

Just wait until they bring out the QuadBox so you can watch the all-22 in 4 screens at the same time rather than just one.. so you can half-watch 4 players on the same play

[syd]

how i would dictate the draft would be where is the better talent in the 3rd round  a wr or a dt ? and that would make my decision as to who to draft in the 2nd

[gumby73]

@gumby73 said:

Is somethings brewing at RB 2 or 3 ? either trading Hunt? or gain a 2nd rounder, while losing D'Ernest Johnson at tagged tendered?  

I've heard some RB draftee interviews, saying they 'have a 30 team visit with the Browns'... ?

This one I'd believe... Cooks is one interview(ee), where he said he had a visit coming.. Did he play with Chubb at Ga.? 

 

@MoreForYou_CLE

The #Browns are meeting with Georgia RB James Cook today, who is the brother of star #Vikings RB Dalvin Cook. (Via @JoshNorris)

[gumby73]

The Gumby Browns Guardrails board is set...

(drafting age/game-film & Athletic scores are considered)

Round 1 Grades

1) A.Hutchinson Edge Michigan

2) T.Walker Edge Georgia

3) T.Tribodeaux Edge Georgia

4.) A. Gardner O-CB  Cinn.

5. E. Neal  OT  Bama

6. I. Ekwonu OL  NCST

7. D. Stingley jr.  O-CB  LSU

8. J. Williams  Z-WR    Bama

9. G. Wilson     Z-WR     OSU

10. J. Davis   0techDT   Ga.

11. D. London  X-WR     USC

12. T.Linderbaum  OC   Iowa

13. K. Hamilton    F-DS    N.D.

14. C. Olave   Z-WR    OSU

15. G. Karlaftis    Edge    Purdue

16.A. Booth jr  O-CB Clemson

17. J. Dotson   Z-WR  Penn St.

18. T. Burks     X-WR   Arkansas (man was this close to RD.2, but..)

That's it..That's my list of Round 1 talent we traded on.... effort-ing to sort Rounds 2 & 3

[gumby73]

@gumby73 said:

The Gumby Browns Guardrails board is set...

(drafting age/game-film & Athletic scores are considered)

Round 1 Grades

1) A.Hutchinson Edge Michigan

2) T.Walker Edge Georgia

3) T.Tribodeaux Edge Georgia

4.) A. Gardner O-CB  Cinn.

5. E. Neal  OT  Bama

6. I. Ekwonu OL  NCST

7. D. Stingley jr.  O-CB  LSU

8. J. Williams  Z-WR    Bama

9. G. Wilson     Z-WR     OSU

10. J. Davis   0techDT   Ga.

11. D. London  X-WR     USC

12. T.Linderbaum  OC   Iowa

13. K. Hamilton    F-DS    N.D.

14. C. Olave   Z-WR    OSU

15. G. Karlaftis    Edge    Purdue

16.A. Booth jr  O-CB Clemson

17. J. Dotson   Z-WR  Penn St.

18. T. Burks     X-WR   Arkansas (man was this close to RD.2, but..)

That's it..That's my list of Round 1 talent we traded on.... effort-ing to sort Rounds 2 & 3

Round 2 Grades

19. D. Ojabo ️  Edge  Michigan (he still should go Rd. 1 in my ? heart) but, just maybe?

20. P. Winfrey  3techDT  Oklahoma

21. D. Leal  3techDT/DL     A&M   (see same L. Hall note)

22. G. Pickens X-WR   Ga.

23. T. Jones  0techDT  U.Conn.

24. D. Jackson  Edge   USC

25. Logan Hall  DL    Houston    (where does he play at 283 lbs?)

26. C. Watson  X-WR   NDST

27. S. Moore   Z-WR    W. Mich. ( I like his game/athlete, to well to drop to R3)

28. *D. Hill  F-DS    Mich.   (*here thru pick 31... Doubt they get to here... firm maybe on L. Cine)

29. *K. Gordon  O-CB  Washington 

30. *K. Elam  O-CB     Fla.

31. *T. McDuffie   O-CB    Washington

32. L. Cine     F-DS     Ga.

A Andrew Berry drafting trend..

a) the oldest he's drafted is D. Felton in Rd. 6 at age 23.2...

b.) the youngest was Schwartz at age 20.9.. Age 21 to 22, seems to be his drafting age spot.

DT- D. Wyatt is 24. DE's J.Paschal & B. Mafe are both age 23.5 

 I may do some tweaking up in here^^^(up in here) with any help? whom am I missing? ?

but the timeline says to move to round 3 after work.. I'm firmly not drafting QB/RB/TE/LB or OL at pick #44..

Have a Happy Friday Gents ! ?  and Go Browns !