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  • @gorka said:

    The Browns chose this path knowing the issues. This kind of negative attention is fully deserved for all of the parties involved in this mess.

    Browns Get Bad News on Deshaun Watson's Legal Issues (msn.com)

    By far the most noteworthy about this article is finding out MSN still exists. I can vaguely remember using it when I was young, decades ago. 

    Only mildly interesting is the absurd framing: "Bad News" and " a serious body blow." Factually, the delay of these preposterous civil suits well into 2023 will likely result in DW being able to play the entire '22-23 season. But somehow this is """"bAd"""" for the Browns. Give me a break!

    (Hi to all who are here to discuss Football. Go Browns!)

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Factually, the delay of these preposterous civil suits well into 2023 will likely result in DW being able to play the entire '22-23 season.

    That was my immediate reaction also.  But I slowly remembered how much commissioner GoToHell enjoys suspending people.  

    - Welcome - 

  • @flugel said:

    My only question is how long the NFL will suspend him for?   

    Last time I remember the NFL investigating complaints of sexual misconduct/harassment at the workplace,  it cleared Daniel Snyder.  Not to worry though, it successfully diverted that bad scent to a non-employee of the Washington Football Team - Jon Gruden.  How could such a thing happen?  I dunno, maybe Daniel Snyder was one of the owners that voted or had to vote on the approval of Roger Goodell's salary increase?

    And it relates to the Watson charges how?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And it relates to the Watson charges how?

    WSS

    Steve, are you not aware the NFL said they are doing their own investigation of Watson/s actions up against the NFL Code of Conduct (regardless of courtroom outcomes)?  Once complete, we will learn if there is a suspension and how long it will be.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    And it relates to the Watson charges how?

    WSS

    Steve, are you not aware the NFL said they are doing their own investigation of Watson/s actions up against the NFL Code of Conduct (regardless of courtroom outcomes)?  Once complete, we will learn if there is a suspension and how long it will be.  

    @flugel said:

    Steve, are you not aware the NFL said they are doing their own investigation of Watson/s actions up against the NFL Code of Conduct (regardless of courtroom outcomes)?  Once complete, we will learn if there is a suspension and how long it will be.  

    I'm aware that Dan Schneider or Bob Kraft or Jon Gruden are probably on a different wavelength as far as the League's conduct rules. Just a guess?

    But as long as I'm guessing I wouldn't expect consistency from the league. Maybe.

    WSS

  • I can picture the signs at opposing stadiums after we lose...... "NO HAPPY ENDINGS HERE!"

    Better yet they put it on the jumbotron.

  • Watson's attorney, Rusty Hardin's update & quotes of interest with MKC... 

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/05/deshaun-watsons-lawyer-expects-the-nfl-will-want-to-talk-to-him-again-and-to-decide-on-his-discipline-by-june-or-july.html

    Two separate grand juries declined to indict Watson on criminal charges.

    But 22 therapists have civil suits against him, including 20 who accuse him of sexual harassment..

    And two of sexual assault. (all serious, while 2 of choice to pay close attention to.. Both were part of the 10 cases heard by 2 grand juries) 

    From the 'She said"..

    Four of Buzbee’s clients have met with Friel. Buzbee told Mark Berman of FOX26 in Houston that

    “some of the women did not feel like they were being respected” during the interviews.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/13/nfl-responds-to-tony-buzbees-concerns-regarding-the-deshaun-watson-investigation/

  • We should be talking about OTA's and playoffs... Instead.. We're talking about some ass hats sexual behaviour.... LOL...

  • This next episode of inside the NFL on HBO hits the screen on Tuesday. Soledad O'Brien talks to some of the victims /  lying whores (depending on your point of view) should be interesting for those of you who have premium channels. Not just porn hub. 

    WSS

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    Factually, the delay of these preposterous civil suits well into 2023 will likely result in DW being able to play the entire '22-23 season.

    That was my immediate reaction also.  But I slowly remembered how much commissioner GoToHell enjoys suspending people.  

    - Welcome - 

    @orion said:

    That was my immediate reaction also.  But I slowly remembered how much commissioner GoToHell enjoys suspending people.  

    - Welcome - 

    @flugel said:

    Steve, are you not aware the NFL said they are doing their own investigation of Watson/s actions up against the NFL Code of Conduct (regardless of courtroom outcomes)?  Once complete, we will learn if there is a suspension and how long it will be.  

    According to this article, there are three possibilities

    1. The league could make its decision when its investigation is concluded
    2. Wait until there’s resolution in the lawsuits
    3. Levy a punishment with the caveat it could add further discipline if new information surfaces.

    As much as I believe they would love to suspend, option 1 is a big can of worms liability wise. The criminal charges were thrown out by two separate grand juries, and those charges can never be brought again. That means DW is not just innocent, his innocence is bulletproof (it astonishes me that the US legal system then allows him to be sued for the very same charges in a different branch of the legal system. Seems like extortion to me, but I suppose that is a discussion for a different forum).

    The point is: if they suspend him now, they are effectively suspending an innocent man, and risk influencing the ongoing legal proceedings. If Kaepernick had enough on the league to reach a settlement for preventing him to work, DW has a Howitzer pointed at them as it stands. The only way I see this happening is the suspension is so low (4 games or so) and the Leagues forgoes option 3, which would juicy enough for DW's representation and the Browns to accept it. Seems more likely the league waits to see the outcome of the lawsuits, and either dish out a lengthy suspension or none at all, depending on said outcome. 

  • @orion said:

    That was my immediate reaction also.  But I slowly remembered how much commissioner GoToHell enjoys suspending people.  

    - Welcome - 

    @flugel said:

    Steve, are you not aware the NFL said they are doing their own investigation of Watson/s actions up against the NFL Code of Conduct (regardless of courtroom outcomes)?  Once complete, we will learn if there is a suspension and how long it will be.  

    According to this article, there are three possibilities

    1. The league could make its decision when its investigation is concluded
    2. Wait until there’s resolution in the lawsuits
    3. Levy a punishment with the caveat it could add further discipline if new information surfaces.

    As much as I believe they would love to suspend, option 1 is a big can of worms liability wise. The criminal charges were thrown out by two separate grand juries, and those charges can never be brought again. That means DW is not just innocent, his innocence is bulletproof (it astonishes me that the US legal system then allows him to be sued for the very same charges in a different branch of the legal system. Seems like extortion to me, but I suppose that is a discussion for a different forum).

    The point is: if they suspend him now, they are effectively suspending an innocent man, and risk influencing the ongoing legal proceedings. If Kaepernick had enough on the league to reach a settlement for preventing him to work, DW has a Howitzer pointed at them as it stands. The only way I see this happening is the suspension is so low (4 games or so) and the Leagues forgoes option 3, which would juicy enough for DW's representation and the Browns to accept it. Seems more likely the league waits to see the outcome of the lawsuits, and either dish out a lengthy suspension or none at all, depending on said outcome. 

    @korsou-dawg said:

    According to this article, there are three possibilities

    1. The league could make its decision when its investigation is concluded
    2. Wait until there’s resolution in the lawsuits
    3. Levy a punishment with the caveat it could add further discipline if new information surfaces.

    As much as I believe they would love to suspend, option 1 is a big can of worms liability wise. The criminal charges were thrown out by two separate grand juries, and those charges can never be brought again. That means DW is not just innocent, his innocence is bulletproof (it astonishes me that the US legal system then allows him to be sued for the very same charges in a different branch of the legal system. Seems like extortion to me, but I suppose that is a discussion for a different forum).

    The point is: if they suspend him now, they are effectively suspending an innocent man, and risk influencing the ongoing legal proceedings. If Kaepernick had enough on the league to reach a settlement for preventing him to work, DW has a Howitzer pointed at them as it stands. The only way I see this happening is the suspension is so low (4 games or so) and the Leagues forgoes option 3, which would juicy enough for DW's representation and the Browns to accept it. Seems more likely the league waits to see the outcome of the lawsuits, and either dish out a lengthy suspension or none at all, depending on said outcome. 

    And welcome. Been to Curacao once for the Total Eclipse back in the 90s.  took quite a liking to the Senior Curacao while I was down there. The authentic beverage has been hard to find of late up here in the States.  Of course i get called a juicer here on the Board because I happen to like stuff like that.    

    One of our Tailgate traditions has been to do a shot of Orange Curacao before heading to the stadium for a game. Zombo affectionately calls it "The Orange Shit".  🙂  

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    According to this article, there are three possibilities

    1. The league could make its decision when its investigation is concluded
    2. Wait until there’s resolution in the lawsuits
    3. Levy a punishment with the caveat it could add further discipline if new information surfaces.

    As much as I believe they would love to suspend, option 1 is a big can of worms liability wise. The criminal charges were thrown out by two separate grand juries, and those charges can never be brought again. That means DW is not just innocent, his innocence is bulletproof (it astonishes me that the US legal system then allows him to be sued for the very same charges in a different branch of the legal system. Seems like extortion to me, but I suppose that is a discussion for a different forum).

    The point is: if they suspend him now, they are effectively suspending an innocent man, and risk influencing the ongoing legal proceedings. If Kaepernick had enough on the league to reach a settlement for preventing him to work, DW has a Howitzer pointed at them as it stands. The only way I see this happening is the suspension is so low (4 games or so) and the Leagues forgoes option 3, which would juicy enough for DW's representation and the Browns to accept it. Seems more likely the league waits to see the outcome of the lawsuits, and either dish out a lengthy suspension or none at all, depending on said outcome. 

    And welcome. Been to Curacao once for the Total Eclipse back in the 90s.  took quite a liking to the Senior Curacao while I was down there. The authentic beverage has been hard to find of late up here in the States.  Of course i get called a juicer here on the Board because I happen to like stuff like that.    

    One of our Tailgate traditions has been to do a shot of Orange Curacao before heading to the stadium for a game. Zombo affectionately calls it "The Orange Shit".  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    And welcome. Been to Curacao once for the Total Eclipse back in the 90s.  took quite a liking to the Senior Curacao while I was down there. The authentic beverage has been hard to find of late up here in the States.  Of course i get called a juicer here on the Board because I happen to like stuff like that.    

    One of our Tailgate traditions has been to do a shot of Orange Curacao before heading to the stadium for a game. Zombo affectionately calls it "The Orange Shit".  🙂  

    Gippers wife gave me his bottle from which the three remaining of us from the Browns TV games group raised a toast to him.

    I think I still have the remainder. If so I will bring it to a tailgate.

    WSS

  • We should be talking about OTA's and playoffs... Instead.. We're talking about some ass hats sexual behaviour.... LOL...

    @nickers said:

    We should be talking about OTA's and playoffs... Instead.. We're talking about some ass hats sexual behaviour.... LOL...

    I'm betting on that Berry does not want the NFL to be waiting until June or July to decide on Watson-gate..

    1.) Browns mandatory camp is June 14-16th..

    2.) Most wanted remaining FA's.. Decide on a team around the 1st of June during OTA's, just prior to showing up to a Mandatory Camp..

    o26.gif      

    Rumors say the Rams are chasing J. Clowney.. Clowney maybe waiting out, for a Watson-gate decision too ..  

  • @nickers said:

    We should be talking about OTA's and playoffs... Instead.. We're talking about some ass hats sexual behaviour.... LOL...

    I'm betting on that Berry does not want the NFL to be waiting until June or July to decide on Watson-gate..

    1.) Browns mandatory camp is June 14-16th..

    2.) Most wanted remaining FA's.. Decide on a team around the 1st of June during OTA's, just prior to showing up to a Mandatory Camp..

    o26.gif      

    Rumors say the Rams are chasing J. Clowney.. Clowney maybe waiting out, for a Watson-gate decision too ..  

    @gumby73 said:

    Rumors say the Rams are chasing J. Clowney..

    Crap!  Nice weather.  Super Bowl team.  

    Cleveland always has that 1st strike against them (weather) before getting to the bargaining table.  A dome is required.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Rumors say the Rams are chasing J. Clowney..

    Crap!  Nice weather.  Super Bowl team.  

    Cleveland always has that 1st strike against them (weather) before getting to the bargaining table.  A dome is required.

    @orion said:

    Crap!  Nice weather.  Super Bowl team.  

    Cleveland always has that 1st strike against them (weather) before getting to the bargaining table.  A dome is required.

    Or at least a retractable roof Stadium.    Even though I enjoyed a lot of BROWNS and even more INDIANS games in the Ol' Muni.

    And  domes can be used for a lot of other events $$$ year round rain or shine.  (Already 6 postponed Guardians games this year,  May 22.)

    But it never seemed to fly.  Oh well.......

  • @gumby73 said:

    Rumors say the Rams are chasing J. Clowney..

    Crap!  Nice weather.  Super Bowl team.  

    Cleveland always has that 1st strike against them (weather) before getting to the bargaining table.  A dome is required.

    @orion said:

    Crap!  Nice weather.  Super Bowl team.  

    Cleveland always has that 1st strike against them (weather) before getting to the bargaining table.  A dome is required.

    Haven't you heard that football is supposed to be played in cold crappy weather?  It doesn't matter that college football seasons ended by Thanksgiving and the NFL championship was played in early December.  I am not sure why the people in charge put bowl games in places like Pasadena, Mami, and New Orleans over places like Cleveland, Denver, and Boston?

    I mean, football is supposed to be played in cold, miserable conditions, right?  LOL

  • @orion said:

    Crap!  Nice weather.  Super Bowl team.  

    Cleveland always has that 1st strike against them (weather) before getting to the bargaining table.  A dome is required.

    Haven't you heard that football is supposed to be played in cold crappy weather?  It doesn't matter that college football seasons ended by Thanksgiving and the NFL championship was played in early December.  I am not sure why the people in charge put bowl games in places like Pasadena, Mami, and New Orleans over places like Cleveland, Denver, and Boston?

    I mean, football is supposed to be played in cold, miserable conditions, right?  LOL

    @ballpeen said:

    Haven't you heard

    Yes, I've heard.  It goes in one ear and out the other.  -  Lets sit outside in sideways rain and/or snow rather than in a dome with a sweater or sweatshirt on....because you're not a 'real' football fan if ya don't.  

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  • Oh and you'll never host a super bowl, ever.

  • Green Bay never hosted a Superbowl.

  • They played the Super Bowl in an outdoor stadium in New Jersey. February 2, 2014

    Although the temp was in the 40’s

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    According to this article, there are three possibilities

    1. The league could make its decision when its investigation is concluded
    2. Wait until there’s resolution in the lawsuits
    3. Levy a punishment with the caveat it could add further discipline if new information surfaces.

    As much as I believe they would love to suspend, option 1 is a big can of worms liability wise. The criminal charges were thrown out by two separate grand juries, and those charges can never be brought again. That means DW is not just innocent, his innocence is bulletproof (it astonishes me that the US legal system then allows him to be sued for the very same charges in a different branch of the legal system. Seems like extortion to me, but I suppose that is a discussion for a different forum).

    The point is: if they suspend him now, they are effectively suspending an innocent man, and risk influencing the ongoing legal proceedings. If Kaepernick had enough on the league to reach a settlement for preventing him to work, DW has a Howitzer pointed at them as it stands. The only way I see this happening is the suspension is so low (4 games or so) and the Leagues forgoes option 3, which would juicy enough for DW's representation and the Browns to accept it. Seems more likely the league waits to see the outcome of the lawsuits, and either dish out a lengthy suspension or none at all, depending on said outcome. 

    And welcome. Been to Curacao once for the Total Eclipse back in the 90s.  took quite a liking to the Senior Curacao while I was down there. The authentic beverage has been hard to find of late up here in the States.  Of course i get called a juicer here on the Board because I happen to like stuff like that.    

    One of our Tailgate traditions has been to do a shot of Orange Curacao before heading to the stadium for a game. Zombo affectionately calls it "The Orange Shit".  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    And welcome. Been to Curacao once for the Total Eclipse back in the 90s.  took quite a liking to the Senior Curacao while I was down there. The authentic beverage has been hard to find of late up here in the States.  Of course i get called a juicer here on the Board because I happen to like stuff like that.    

    One of our Tailgate traditions has been to do a shot of Orange Curacao before heading to the stadium for a game. Zombo affectionately calls it "The Orange Shit".  🙂  

    Nice to see one of very few Curaçao exports make it all the way to Ohio! 🙂 They seem to have a US distributor, but they are all they way in Cali
    https://www.curacaoliqueur.com/where-to-buy

    I am quite particular about my alcoholic beverages: pilsner beer, strong red wine and a few classic cocktails like whiskey sour. May have to make an exception for some orange shit if I ever make it to a tailgate #lifegoals