Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
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You beat me to it Steve... However, that link is hiding behind the Cleveland.com paywall... BUT... I was able to see the entire article on my phone.
As Terry pointed out... this was pretty shady on the Texans part... If a player is getting "massages", teams will want (usually insist) the player getting them at the team facility where they can be supervised, not in some hotel room.
BTW 66 women\ 18 months = one every 8 days, give or take a few... Deshaun was buying himself a lot of happiness.
Don't know- but it sure looks like Watson was actively soliciting prostitution under the guise of "massages".
The man .. And I use the term "Man" loosely has a serious sex problem... He's a Dupa and I hope he never gets one snap with the Browns... He can't even control himself... How in fuck can he lead a group of men?
How in fuck can he lead a group of men?
He only has to lead them enough so that they can run under it and catch it. And then make good decisions with the football. If he can do that, then nothing else will matter while they're between the white lines.
Until that time, stuff has to play out.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
they need to figure this shit out before more and more women pile on it's bad for everyone and how long till they name the nfl in the suit
they need to figure this shit out before more and more women pile on it's bad for everyone and how long till they name the nfl in the suit
I remember going back to the Pete Rozelle days it was all about "protect the shield" almost at any cost.
This BROWNS / DW /Texans/ NFL soap opera can't be good for anyone involved.
And the 2022 preseason is right around the corner so hopefully something will be resolved........soon.
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I'm thinking Jimmy H gave the green light, told Berry to go all-in.
I'm certainly no expert of Watson's language in his contract... but He's hugely commitment'd come March of 2023
"In this case, Next March 1st of 2023.. The Browns (Haslam) are going to have to deposit a number close to $170/$180M in what amounts to an escrow account, where the guaranteed money gets held that is owed to the player in the future,"
“As it relates to Watson’s contract, it means that the Browns will be required, per a source with knowledge of the formula and policy, to place $169 million into escrow as of March 31, 2023. As the source explained it, the league takes a snapshot of all fully guaranteed salaries on January 31 of each year. Any fully guaranteed payments not made by March 31 must be placed in escrow, up to 75 percent of the total contract value. Also, each team has a $15 million annual allowance. Under the terms of Watson’s current deal, it works out to be a major chunk of cash that [Browns owner Jimmy Haslam] must set aside next year.
The contract is fully guaranteed and includes a $44.965 million signing bonus, and includes a no-trade clause through the entire contract.
Is anybody certain of Watson's contract language up until March 1st of 2023? ?
Happy FriDaY ! ?
Is anybody certain of Watson's contract language up until March 1st of 2023? ?
Have we ruffled someones feathers ?
MKC Today,
Cabot links back to 4-8-22, PFT Mike Florio
We’ve obtained a copy of the contract.(oh really) It does indeed include “typical club protections.” However, it also includes a major exception to those “typical club protections.”
If Watson admits to having sexual encounters with any, some, or all of those #?? women, could that get him suspended, regardless of the outcome of the investigation regarding the #?? massage therapists who accuse him of wrongdoing?
1.) The Commissioner could decide that Watson should miss games without pay as part of the effort to intervene and to resolve the behaviors that resulted in Watson repeatedly (if the evidence supports that conclusion) using massage sessions as cover for the solicitation of prostitution.
2.) If that occurs, and *if* that specific wrinkle hasn’t* been included in the written disclosure mentioned in Watson’s contract, the Browns *possibly would be able to void his guarantees and/or to recover a portion of his signing bonus, if it so chooses.
Reminder.. Cabot (like myself) had to go back to April 8th to find any kind of 'so called' contract language
All is prior to..
the number of 18 cases jumping up to 24 civil cases..
No HBO's one sided story
No Washington writers findings..
IMHO...No... the media don't know the true language (nor should they) that Berry/ (Haslam's money) has written in Watson's contract before March of 2023..
Why use words of 'If'? If' we're claiming to.... We've obtained a copy of Watson's contract....
I'm still Hopeful, Berry has all his Watson contract processing bases covered.. ?
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What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
#22 +1= # 23 +1 = 24, #66? Katie bar the door.
Can we say looking for wiener pulls and blow jobs... Just an oral massage..
This is starting to make Ben R. look like a saint by comparison...
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What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
#22 +1= # 23 +1 = 24, #66? Katie bar the door.
Can we say looking for wiener pulls and blow jobs... Just an oral massage..
This is starting to make Ben R. look like a saint by comparison...
#22 +1= # 23 +1 = 24, #66? Katie bar the door.
Can we say looking for wiener pulls and blow jobs... Just an oral massage..
This is starting to make Ben R. look like a saint by comparison...
Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
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#22 +1= # 23 +1 = 24, #66? Katie bar the door.
Can we say looking for wiener pulls and blow jobs... Just an oral massage..
This is starting to make Ben R. look like a saint by comparison...
Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
lol...
Touchdown ! (6 games suspended
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The off season NFL media groups needed no help in creating a 'Watson click bait weekly'..
even some lawsuit evaluator groups have updated their numbers... https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/deshaun-watson-civil-settlement.html
I feel the biggest story now is? Whom & What? played out as part of the Texans involvement?
If still on staff? He/she/it* may fall onto the NFL exempt list, while Watson walks into a NFL Mandatory Camp?
Will the 'Creep Show' ending end by Tuesday? I doubt it! stay tuned
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/paid-leave-back-table-deshaun-000859333.html
Does it seem like paid leave only punishes the browns?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
Awareness.
You make it sound like how dare the public (and a growing contingent of longtime die hard Browns' fans) not wanting this guy to get a guaranteed 230 million $ contract. And what's the expense? Feel free to take inventory of how many draft picks they gave up for him plus the cap hit he's costing this team. You're already excusing him for possibly being suspended anywhere from 8-16 games in some of your posts. Even worse, the same FO + Owner that thought the only thing wrong with the franchise was the QB, which would have been more acceptable if they didn't already commit to the 5th year option guaranteeing that same QB $18,900,000. When Jimmy announced this was the most comprehensive research they have ever done on any QB/player they signed - I wondered why nobody asked him why he didn't draft Watson when our 1-15 record had him right on our 1st overall draft slot for far less money. Then, they wouldn't have had to draft Baker with the next 1st overall pick after this franchise went 0-16. The difference between the Browns and other teams in the AFC North today is Cleveland remains the only franchise incapable of drafting a franchise QB.
I liked it when the Browns had QBs with imperfections to overcome back in the 80s. When (13th round draft pick) Brian Sipe had the alleged arm strength of a Girl Scout earning the only NFL MVP award this franchise has had since the 50s or 60s. When Kosar had the mobility of a parked car and injuries from that eventually challenged his mechanics/delivery - he frequently had us in playoffs and AFC Championship Games. Their successes in spite of that were so easy for us to appreciate and root for.
Now we're being held hostage by a guy that has 24 alleged victims out of the 66 massage therapists he's used/abused. It's okay for fans to worry about this. It doesn't make them bad fans or holier than thou.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
#22 +1= # 23 +1 = 24, #66? Katie bar the door.
Can we say looking for wiener pulls and blow jobs... Just an oral massage..
This is starting to make Ben R. look like a saint by comparison...
Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
And you sound like you want to give him his next massage...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
#22 +1= # 23 +1 = 24, #66? Katie bar the door.
Can we say looking for wiener pulls and blow jobs... Just an oral massage..
This is starting to make Ben R. look like a saint by comparison...
Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028Look, the sheer scope of the allegations is unprecedented. This isn't a one timer Ben R. banging some chick in a bar bathroom.
Watson apparently checked his moral compass at the door when he keeps claiming he didn't do anything wrong, and it was all consensual. Sorry Deshaun, not buying it. False like ALL the others? You're dreaming. Add in- earlier in this sordid little episode Watson and his lawyers screwed up by not paying up to make it all quietly go away when they had the chance. Too late now.
Yeah, a lot of the accusers outrage is phony, but I'm going to call it what it is... Paying for sex in the guise of "massages" sort of looks like soliciting prostitution. X 66.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/paid-leave-back-table-deshaun-000859333.html
Does it seem like paid leave only punishes the browns?
WSS
Does it seem like paid leave only punishes the browns?
Yeah, that would make no sense at all.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/paid-leave-back-table-deshaun-000859333.html
Does it seem like paid leave only punishes the browns?
WSS
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/paid-leave-back-table-deshaun-000859333.html
Does it seem like paid leave only punishes the browns?
WSS
LOL!!!!!!!!!! The Browns having to bear the burden of whatever comes of this is WHY YOU DONT MAKE THIS TRADE to begin with. The Browns deserve every last bit of any consequences.
It's like a woman asks a mechanic friend to help her go car shopping. She spots a car she really likes and asks the mechanic to take a look. After checking it out, he says, it needs new ball joints, the transmission is going bad, it leaks oil, the engine light is on, it needs new brakes, it was in a flood. I know it's a really nice looking 2017 BMW convertable, and looks nice in a selfie, but you really shouldn't buy this car. They are asking way too much and it's going to be in the shop alot.
She buys the car anyhow and then is upset when it breaks down and she owes more on it than what it's worth.
That's the Browns. You paid top dollar for a good looking clunker. Way to go!
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Does it seem like paid leave only punishes the browns?
Yeah, that would make no sense at all.
Yeah, that would make no sense at all.
Well it kind of does read the last post by mahomo. I think everybody knew he was a scumbag and if they didn't they were stupid.
If Jimmy forced Stefanski and Berry to play ball then they are pussies anyway.
WSS
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Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028Look, the sheer scope of the allegations is unprecedented. This isn't a one timer Ben R. banging some chick in a bar bathroom.
Watson apparently checked his moral compass at the door when he keeps claiming he didn't do anything wrong, and it was all consensual. Sorry Deshaun, not buying it. False like ALL the others? You're dreaming. Add in- earlier in this sordid little episode Watson and his lawyers screwed up by not paying up to make it all quietly go away when they had the chance. Too late now.
Yeah, a lot of the accusers outrage is phony, but I'm going to call it what it is... Paying for sex in the guise of "massages" sort of looks like soliciting prostitution. X 66.
Look, the sheer scope of the allegations is unprecedented. This isn't a one timer Ben R. banging some chick in a bar bathroom.
Watson apparently checked his moral compass at the door when he keeps claiming he didn't do anything wrong, and it was all consensual. Sorry Deshaun, not buying it. False like ALL the others? You're dreaming. Add in- earlier in this sordid little episode Watson and his lawyers screwed up by not paying up to make it all quietly go away when they had the chance. Too late now.
Yeah, a lot of the accusers outrage is phony, but I'm going to call it what it is... Paying for sex in the guise of "massages" sort of looks like soliciting prostitution. X 66.
So alot of the accuser outrage is phony…and I agree here. Is all of this worth another year or more of his career? We’ve had pricks/jerks on this team, we’ve had cheaters, some others convicted of crimes, etc.
There was a tug and rub thing going on. I’d certainly have a problem if one of the two said “no”…and a grand jury would too. And If we placed the facts in front of a Grand Jury and we’ve been lectured and taught here about that process and how an accuser has the cards stacked against them ….what’s changed with two more civil claims?
Two consenting adults!!!!!Bored Media hyping more outrage and ramping up again….and adding others (a team) to the fold
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Indictments/convictions? You can sue him too.
His lawyer said #24 was completely false….I hope #23 was just false like the others
Florio, the media and some of you would have him suspended until 2028
And you sound like you want to give him his next massage...
And you sound like you want to give him his next massage...
no I let a grand jury judge his actions.
And I don’t need the money lol nor do I have the desire my wife is plenty for me -
What has changed in the last month other than renewed public outrage?
Awareness.
You make it sound like how dare the public (and a growing contingent of longtime die hard Browns' fans) not wanting this guy to get a guaranteed 230 million $ contract. And what's the expense? Feel free to take inventory of how many draft picks they gave up for him plus the cap hit he's costing this team. You're already excusing him for possibly being suspended anywhere from 8-16 games in some of your posts. Even worse, the same FO + Owner that thought the only thing wrong with the franchise was the QB, which would have been more acceptable if they didn't already commit to the 5th year option guaranteeing that same QB $18,900,000. When Jimmy announced this was the most comprehensive research they have ever done on any QB/player they signed - I wondered why nobody asked him why he didn't draft Watson when our 1-15 record had him right on our 1st overall draft slot for far less money. Then, they wouldn't have had to draft Baker with the next 1st overall pick after this franchise went 0-16. The difference between the Browns and other teams in the AFC North today is Cleveland remains the only franchise incapable of drafting a franchise QB.
I liked it when the Browns had QBs with imperfections to overcome back in the 80s. When (13th round draft pick) Brian Sipe had the alleged arm strength of a Girl Scout earning the only NFL MVP award this franchise has had since the 50s or 60s. When Kosar had the mobility of a parked car and injuries from that eventually challenged his mechanics/delivery - he frequently had us in playoffs and AFC Championship Games. Their successes in spite of that were so easy for us to appreciate and root for.
Now we're being held hostage by a guy that has 24 alleged victims out of the 66 massage therapists he's used/abused. It's okay for fans to worry about this. It doesn't make them bad fans or holier than thou.
Awareness.
You make it sound like how dare the public (and a growing contingent of longtime die hard Browns' fans) not wanting this guy to get a guaranteed 230 million $ contract. And what's the expense? Feel free to take inventory of how many draft picks they gave up for him plus the cap hit he's costing this team. You're already excusing him for possibly being suspended anywhere from 8-16 games in some of your posts. Even worse, the same FO + Owner that thought the only thing wrong with the franchise was the QB, which would have been more acceptable if they didn't already commit to the 5th year option guaranteeing that same QB $18,900,000. When Jimmy announced this was the most comprehensive research they have ever done on any QB/player they signed - I wondered why nobody asked him why he didn't draft Watson when our 1-15 record had him right on our 1st overall draft slot for far less money. Then, they wouldn't have had to draft Baker with the next 1st overall pick after this franchise went 0-16. The difference between the Browns and other teams in the AFC North today is Cleveland remains the only franchise incapable of drafting a franchise QB.
I liked it when the Browns had QBs with imperfections to overcome back in the 80s. When (13th round draft pick) Brian Sipe had the alleged arm strength of a Girl Scout earning the only NFL MVP award this franchise has had since the 50s or 60s. When Kosar had the mobility of a parked car and injuries from that eventually challenged his mechanics/delivery - he frequently had us in playoffs and AFC Championship Games. Their successes in spite of that were so easy for us to appreciate and root for.
Now we're being held hostage by a guy that has 24 alleged victims out of the 66 massage therapists he's used/abused. It's okay for fans to worry about this. It doesn't make them bad fans or holier than thou.
The reality is men and women not Convicted of crimes have faced punishment from the NFL and that will be the case here. Maybe my bewilderment is with The year plus or indefinite crowd.
Trust me I’m aware…Did the grand jury think consenting adults were “victims”? You can call them opportunists too.
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no I let a grand jury judge his actions.
? Last time I heard how accurate a Grand Jury was - OJ Simpson was being found not guilty of slitting his wife's throat.
Guess what happened after that? Karma put the bad guy in jail anyway. Kind of funny how that works...
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