Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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That's a good part of it I haven't been dishonest or unclear have i? Is that some kind of a gotcha? Well it's not. I've stated my opinions on whether or not Baker can play to a high level in the right situation I've stated my opinion that I think the deal was ridiculous I've pointed out some of the hypocrisies that the haters have spewed I pointed out that there was a lot wrong with the team last year. I think that a healthy Mayfield with the team in good health and poised for victory could have been successful without costing what it cost and without leaving an ugly stink over my Cleveland Browns. .......is there an ugly stink ? How about a stench over half of Lake Erie and NE Ohio ?
(and I probably would not have been as adamant had they dealt for Wilson or Rogers or somebody that wasn't quite the lying punk that Watson is) especially because if, in your opinion, they are ready to win now any of those quarterbacks would have been able to do the job without fear of suspension.
WSS
I wonder if the BROWNS had any realistic shot at either Wilson or Rodgers ? Even for "DW Money" the new standard for big smelly deals.

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That's a good part of it I haven't been dishonest or unclear have i? Is that some kind of a gotcha? Well it's not. I've stated my opinions on whether or not Baker can play to a high level in the right situation I've stated my opinion that I think the deal was ridiculous I've pointed out some of the hypocrisies that the haters have spewed I pointed out that there was a lot wrong with the team last year. I think that a healthy Mayfield with the team in good health and poised for victory could have been successful without costing what it cost and without leaving an ugly stink over my Cleveland Browns. .......is there an ugly stink ? How about a stench over half of Lake Erie and NE Ohio ?
(and I probably would not have been as adamant had they dealt for Wilson or Rogers or somebody that wasn't quite the lying punk that Watson is) especially because if, in your opinion, they are ready to win now any of those quarterbacks would have been able to do the job without fear of suspension.
WSS
I wonder if the BROWNS had any realistic shot at either Wilson or Rodgers ? Even for "DW Money" the new standard for big smelly deals.

I wonder if the BROWNS had any realistic shot at either Wilson or Rodgers ? Even for "DW Money" the new standard for big smelly deals.

Who knows? Money Talks. And if the bronze were barely a pubic hair away from a Super Bowl just by upgrading the quarterback why wouldn't there be a realistic shot?
WSS
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Anybody that's ever been to an Asian massage shop know.
More dollars is all the ladies are interested in.
There's literally nothing see here folks.
Those Asian people have very dark ways to doing stuff ?
Law enforcement said nothing to see here folks.
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What's that code for bypassing pay sites?
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What's that code for bypassing pay sites?
What's that code for bypassing pay sites?
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And frankly most likely nothing happened that I would find should be illegal. But that goes for a lot of celebrities who have lost their entire livelihood. C'est la vie, sign of the times? It's really an image problem. But just for fun there's a guy I know that was drunk and took a piss in somebody's yard in Highland square. Police busted him and he was charged with indecent exposure. Had to be listed as a sexual predator.
WSS
And frankly most likely nothing happened that I would find should be illegal. But that goes for a lot of celebrities who have lost their entire livelihood. C'est la vie, sign of the times? It's really an image problem. But just for fun there's a guy I know that was drunk and took a piss in somebody's yard in Highland square. Police busted him and he was charged with indecent exposure. Had to be listed as a sexual predator.
WSS
wow....that's super crazy
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I could've sworn that while having lunch with the Mrs today in a local eatery that I saw a crawler on the four letter network saying the disciplinary decision could come down as early as tomorrow but no later than the start of training camp. And that regardless of the decision, Watson could participate in camp and preseason games.
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I'm hoping for no suspension. It's all bullshit.
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Well after all the Sound and Fury it's going to be what it is. No point losing sleep over Baker. I'm guessing six games slap on the wrist for Watson? If that's the case Roethlisberger Hunt Etc should be furious.
But die-hard as long as we are hoping I hope he gets an indefinite suspension that eventually goes to Miami or Atlanta we rescind the deal the Houston Texans have to give back the draft picks and accept a censure Jimmy Haslam is forced to sell the team to Cleveland interests and the Browns go to the Super Bowl behind Jimmy Garoppolo.
???
WSS
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Well after all the Sound and Fury it's going to be what it is. No point losing sleep over Baker. I'm guessing six games slap on the wrist for Watson? If that's the case Roethlisberger Hunt Etc should be furious.
But die-hard as long as we are hoping I hope he gets an indefinite suspension that eventually goes to Miami or Atlanta we rescind the deal the Houston Texans have to give back the draft picks and accept a censure Jimmy Haslam is forced to sell the team to Cleveland interests and the Browns go to the Super Bowl behind Jimmy Garoppolo.
???
WSS
Well after all the Sound and Fury it's going to be what it is. No point losing sleep over Baker. I'm guessing six games slap on the wrist for Watson? If that's the case Roethlisberger Hunt Etc should be furious.
But die-hard as long as we are hoping I hope he gets an indefinite suspension that eventually goes to Miami or Atlanta we rescind the deal the Houston Texans have to give back the draft picks and accept a censure Jimmy Haslam is forced to sell the team to Cleveland interests and the Browns go to the Super Bowl behind Jimmy Garoppolo.
???
WSS
Nah. I hope he gets nothing and takes us to a superbowl.
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Well after all the Sound and Fury it's going to be what it is. No point losing sleep over Baker. I'm guessing six games slap on the wrist for Watson? If that's the case Roethlisberger Hunt Etc should be furious.
But die-hard as long as we are hoping I hope he gets an indefinite suspension that eventually goes to Miami or Atlanta we rescind the deal the Houston Texans have to give back the draft picks and accept a censure Jimmy Haslam is forced to sell the team to Cleveland interests and the Browns go to the Super Bowl behind Jimmy Garoppolo.
???
WSS
Nah. I hope he gets nothing and takes us to a superbowl.
Nah. I hope he gets nothing and takes us to a superbowl.
I hope they hammer him hard and he never sets foot on the field... Hes a chump!
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They did not want to hitch their front office/coaching future to Baker, and I get that.
it wasn't like top-level QBs were or are available very often, but they paid an absolute king's ransom for a completely toxic "face of the franchise".
Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
Time for me to jump on a plane ? and leave this ____________ transaction action for 10 days ? (i may miss nothing? ?)
I'll always believe, there once was a time, to avoid this media _____ wreck..
A somewhat decided Browns FO, looking to trade a Baker Mayfield too?
Time heals all wounds? Time for me to check out to a Tar- healing vacation... see ya all... Stay Family Safe !
Time for me to jump on a plane ? and leave this ____________ transaction action for 10 days ? (i may miss nothing? ?)
What'd I win?
the Pike division ?
getting this gut feeling... the NFL wants more games than Ben got suspended.. 8 games... gets Watson 9 games, with our bye week falling on week 9
A players union happy (games suspended) non appeal number? Nah ! I don't see one...
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Just for the record Larry I haven't moved on either. I realize what's done is done but one more time if this doesn't culminate with a nose holding Super Bowl victory we got screwed. And if the salary cap and the dearth of first rounders strangles the life out of the Browns for another 20 years, well let me quote Don Corleone: "I'm going to blame some of the people in this room, and that I do not forgive."
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WSS
So you roll with Baker in 2022?
A rookie in 2023? (And trade three 1st round picks to move up!!!)
Hold your breath in 2024 that the rookie panned out?
Meanwhile Chubb, Ward, Garrett and Co get older or demand trades to super bowl contending teams.
Big picture thinking.
So you roll with Baker in 2022?
A rookie in 2023? (And trade three 1st round picks to move up!!!)
Hold your breath in 2024 that the rookie panned out?
Meanwhile Chubb, Ward, Garrett and Co get older or demand trades to super bowl contending teams.
Big picture thinking.
1 yes. It's my contention that the team will be great and contend for a Super Bowl with a healthy Baker. And with the extra draft picks and with the changes we have made to the team and without the problems of 2021.
And if I'm right who cares about a rookie next year?
And all those things the Aging of the players the bigger contracts offered by other teams will still be a problem in 2022 and 2023.
WSS
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then WTF are we talking about? Think about that......this is ridiculous
Seriously? Can't believe people are still having a hard time with this.
It's been established a long time ago by 2 grand juries that Watsons engaged in no criminal activity. That should be no surprise to you.
Watson is facing charges in civil court which makes him subject to punishment by the NFL for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
The Difference Between Civil Sexual Assault and Criminal Sexual Assault (jsberrylaw.com)
Ben Roethlesbooger was never charged with a crime either. The case was thrown out by the prosecutor. He did however receive a 6-game suspension reduced to 4 for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
Take note of all the suspensions due to either violation of the league's personal conduct policy or personal behavior detrimental to the team.
List of players and coaches suspended by the NFL | American Football Database | Fandom
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then WTF are we talking about? Think about that......this is ridiculous
Seriously? Can't believe people are still having a hard time with this.
It's been established a long time ago by 2 grand juries that Watsons engaged in no criminal activity. That should be no surprise to you.
Watson is facing charges in civil court which makes him subject to punishment by the NFL for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
The Difference Between Civil Sexual Assault and Criminal Sexual Assault (jsberrylaw.com)
Ben Roethlesbooger was never charged with a crime either. The case was thrown out by the prosecutor. He did however receive a 6-game suspension reduced to 4 for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
Take note of all the suspensions due to either violation of the league's personal conduct policy or personal behavior detrimental to the team.
List of players and coaches suspended by the NFL | American Football Database | Fandom
Seriously? Can't believe people are still having a hard time with this.
It's been established a long time ago by 2 grand juries that Watsons engaged in no criminal activity. That should be no surprise to you.
Watson is facing charges in civil court which makes him subject to punishment by the NFL for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
The Difference Between Civil Sexual Assault and Criminal Sexual Assault (jsberrylaw.com)
Ben Roethlesbooger was never charged with a crime either. The case was thrown out by the prosecutor. He did however receive a 6-game suspension reduced to 4 for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
Take note of all the suspensions due to either violation of the league's personal conduct policy or personal behavior detrimental to the team.
List of players and coaches suspended by the NFL | American Football Database | Fandom
The pass by the grand jury didn't State there was no criminal activity just that they didn't think it was worth the time to prosecute each and every case. Also apparently the ones who claimed he grabbed their hand and put it on his weiner have settled. That doesn't mean he didn't do it it just means that the amount of money was okay for them to let it slide. Which means they weren't permanently traumatized. Like my mechanic Buddy says nothing wrong with it that money can't fix.
WSS
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Seriously? Can't believe people are still having a hard time with this.
It's been established a long time ago by 2 grand juries that Watsons engaged in no criminal activity. That should be no surprise to you.
Watson is facing charges in civil court which makes him subject to punishment by the NFL for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
The Difference Between Civil Sexual Assault and Criminal Sexual Assault (jsberrylaw.com)
Ben Roethlesbooger was never charged with a crime either. The case was thrown out by the prosecutor. He did however receive a 6-game suspension reduced to 4 for violating the league's personal behavior policy.
Take note of all the suspensions due to either violation of the league's personal conduct policy or personal behavior detrimental to the team.
List of players and coaches suspended by the NFL | American Football Database | Fandom
The pass by the grand jury didn't State there was no criminal activity just that they didn't think it was worth the time to prosecute each and every case. Also apparently the ones who claimed he grabbed their hand and put it on his weiner have settled. That doesn't mean he didn't do it it just means that the amount of money was okay for them to let it slide. Which means they weren't permanently traumatized. Like my mechanic Buddy says nothing wrong with it that money can't fix.
WSS
The pass by the grand jury didn't State there was no criminal activity just that they didn't think it was worth the time to prosecute each and every case. Also apparently the ones who claimed he grabbed their hand and put it on his weiner have settled. That doesn't mean he didn't do it it just means that the amount of money was okay for them to let it slide. Which means they weren't permanently traumatized. Like my mechanic Buddy says nothing wrong with it that money can't fix.
WSS
WSS, not to argue, but your supposition on the Grand jury's decision is wrong. I have testified in my career in front of several grand juries and have worked with several District Attorneys as the lead investigator. If a DA goes to the grand jury He/She believes it's worth prosecuting. All a Grand Jury is presented or hears is the Prosecutions case such as (Investigators/witness/victims testimony and evidence). The Defense and alleged suspect(s) are not present and have no input in their defense. All the grand jury decides is "if the prosecution presented a case where the evidence(testimony,Physical evidence) is met to proceed to an indictment and criminal trial. They don't decide if it's worth the time. A grand jury hearing is usually a slam dunk for the prosecution because the defense isn't heard. There is a saying " You can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich." It isn't far off, and yet 2 grand juries in 2 different counties said there wasn't anything to proceed with criminal charges.
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