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  • @flugel said:

    .....I've been pegging QBs wrong for Cleveland......

    Deshaun will teach you how. 

    @d-bone said:

    Deshaun will teach you how. 

    @flugel said:

    Does he know I only have 2 brain cells and they're not on speaking terms?

    Surprised my joke didn't blow up. I guess people have to Google 'pegged', but I highly recommend using an incognito browser and where only you can see your screen..... and for God sakes, don't do it at work or school. 

  • @flugel said:

    about the bad weather in Great Lake climates, Josh Allen couldn't be playing any better in Buffalo right now. Jim Kelly made the HOF playing there.  Aaron Rodgers is putting together a HOF career in GB after Brett Favre and Bart Starr already made the HOF. 

    You've omitted the best of them all....Brady.  He set passing records in snow storms.  Of course, he HAS trundled off to tampa.   

    @orion said:

    You've omitted the best of them all....Brady.  He set passing records in snow storms.  Of course, he HAS trundled off to tampa.   

    ?I didn't mean to.  You specified the Great Lake climate regarding Watson so I only mentioned the QBs that played/are playing in the Great Lakes Regions.   

    If we open it up to other harsh winter climates we can definitely include: Tom Brady, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway (Rocky Mountains), as well as Eli Manning (who defeated Brady's Pats twice in the SB). There's plenty more if we go back further...

  • @flugel said:

    Interesting!    Here's the strange thing, it's actually Atlanta and New Orleans that play in domes. 

    Like you alluded to, Cleveland weather isn't a big deal to many while others demand more money to come play in it. FWIW about the bad weather in Great Lake climates, Josh Allen couldn't be playing any better in Buffalo right now.

    Ever been to a game in Laramie late in the season? Sometimes 30-40 mph winds with 20 F (or lower). He's had a ton of experience in an open stadium there. Plus it's over 7,000 ft above sea level. There's a reason one UW facility is named "High Altitude Training Center".??️?️

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ever been to a game in Laramie late in the season? Sometimes 30-40 mph winds with 20 F (or lower). He's had a ton of experience in an open stadium there. Plus it's over 7,000 ft above sea level. There's a reason one UW facility is named "High Altitude Training Center".??️?️

    There's 1 Great Lake Team in the Windy City that hasn't had a lot of luck since Sid Luckman played there from 1939-1950.  They won a Super Bowl at the end of the 85 season with Jim McMahon; but he only threw 15 TD passes to 11 INTs in the 11 games he started that year without a loss.  That was also the only year he made the Pro Bowl.   That defense and running game deserved more Super Bowls.

    Here's how many games McMahon started in each of the other seasons he played in Chicago: 

    7 in 1982

    13 in 1983

    9 in 1984

    6 in 1986

    6 in 1987

    9 in 1988

    Dick Butkus and Gale Sayers were both drafted by the Bears in 1965.  Unfortunately, the Bears never made the playoffs during their careers.  That's gotta make poor Joe Thomas feel a little bit better that there's other HOF players that never got to play in the post season.  Having said that, the Browns were 10-6 during his rookie year so that was just real bad luck!  

    Anyway, the Bears will be looking to change their passing game fortunes with Justin Fields while the Browns hade traded for DeShaun Watson to do the same....  

  • She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.

    You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."

       So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.

    Almost August, and here we are....

    All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:

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    Zombo said:

    When we first signed Watson, I was happy. I defended him. "Ok, he's  REALLY into massage girls, likes happy endings, and while inappropriate,  his behavior is not criminal. This attorney has a personal vendetta for him and is very good at coaching these women that they have been wronged" 

    The Browns said they vetted the hell out of the situation and that Watson was a good person and they wanted to build around him.

    Watson said he did nothing wrong, and since we were in He Said / She Said territory, and there were no criminal charges ... I was all in on the new QB of the Cleveland Browns.

    The NY Times article flipped things for me. I saw him as a different person: He manipulated the Texans, he lied to the Browns, and he lied to us at his press conference. 

    No one needs 66 different massage women in 17 months. No one needs a luxury hotel room where different massage girls are sent. No one needs a massage girl to sign a NDA unless creepy things are happening.

    We traded our future away and paid $243 M guaranteed to a lying creep.

    Oh ... my Browns.

    The draft picks are gone.

    But we can sue Watson for lying and then Jimmy can sell the team to a fucking hands off owner and let the football people run the team.

    He just keeps fucking up.

    But that's probably not happening. We will probably have Briskett go 9-8 this year and then we will have to start letting some talent go because of Watson's back ended guaranteed contract and never get to the Super Bowl while we root for a team led by this creep.

    Oh ... my Browns ?

    Z

    @calfoxwc said:

    She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.

    You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."

       So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.

    Almost August, and here we are....

    All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:

    ***********************************

    Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization.

    Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love?

    I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.

    You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."

       So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.

    Almost August, and here we are....

    All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:

    ***********************************

    Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization.

    Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love?

    I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.

    @stillmotion said:

    Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization.

    Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love?

    I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.

    Good to see you back in the mix again!

    All of a sudden I'm a 58 year old teenager so I'm going to do what I did in the very beginning.  Forget about the owner, fall madly in love with the oline, running game and talent we have on defense.  Then, hope we we add 1 more veteran DT and pray this team doesn't have injuries to positions with the least amount of depth.

  • Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow. 

  • Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow. 

    I'll say 10 games when it's all said and done. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow. 

    I'll say 10 games when it's all said and done. 

    @d-bone said:

    I'll say 10 games when it's all said and done. 

    I'm thinking 6-8. 

  • @flugel said:

    Interesting!    Here's the strange thing, it's actually Atlanta and New Orleans that play in domes. 

    Like you alluded to, Cleveland weather isn't a big deal to many while others demand more money to come play in it. FWIW about the bad weather in Great Lake climates, Josh Allen couldn't be playing any better in Buffalo right now.

    Ever been to a game in Laramie late in the season? Sometimes 30-40 mph winds with 20 F (or lower). He's had a ton of experience in an open stadium there. Plus it's over 7,000 ft above sea level. There's a reason one UW facility is named "High Altitude Training Center".??️?️

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ever been to a game in Laramie late in the season? Sometimes 30-40 mph winds with 20 F (or lower). He's had a ton of experience in an open stadium there. Plus it's over 7,000 ft above sea level. There's a reason one UW facility is named "High Altitude Training Center".??️?️

    Never been to a game Tex, but been to the U. Wyoming campus several times.... 7,000 foot elevation?  Try 10,000 feet west of there in the Wind River Range in August.  Three inches of snow, and freezing temperatures.  🙂  
    Last time we were out there (same August time frame) the clerk at the new hotel in Pinedale down the road told us she was a little surprised that they hadn't caught any snow yet.  

  • https://clesportstalk.com/stupid-a-4-8-game-suspension-for-deshaun-watson/

    Not sure how seriously I could take journalism with typos. I mean for me? Sure my stuff looks like crap but I kind of agree with this sentiment either slap him with a season or just let him go. Four or eight games doesn't serve any purpose.

    WSS

  • Make him clean the ladies restrooms in the stadium.  One every other day (except Sunday) 'til they're all done.

    This is the first ruling of this new ruling system.  There are people from either side of the fence ready to pronounce the ruling to be a poor one.  Including lawsuits and appeals.  Why, there could be rioting in the streets.  Cars set afire.  Looting Walmarts for TV's and pool supplies.  You name it.   

  • might be good news that it's not a year the NFL wanted....

    Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:

     
     
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    Our joint statement with Deshaun Watson on the impending arbitration decision:
     

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  • might be good news that it's not a year the NFL wanted....

    Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:

     
     
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    Our joint statement with Deshaun Watson on the impending arbitration decision:
     

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    @gumby73 said:

    Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:

    Well that's a change of heart.  What brought that on pray tell?

  • @gumby73 said:

    Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:

    Well that's a change of heart.  What brought that on pray tell?

    @orion said:

    Well that's a change of heart.  What brought that on pray tell?

    Like they say... There's always more to the story...

  • Florio rarely works past 9pm... 

    Beware of smoke..

    but this may have happened... duplicated by many of the main media outlets..

    Citing unnamed sources, Graziano reports that the NFL and NFL Players Association engaged in settlement talks in recent days.

    The NFLPA, working with Watson’s camp, wasn’t willing to accept more than 6-8 games.

    The league would agree to 12 games plus a fine in the range of $8 million.

    Florio..(by candlelight)

     https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/07/31/report-recent-deshaun-watson-settlement-talks-went-nowhere/

    thank god for a job come Monday... 

    Jesus take the wheel ...

    Edit-- 1 AM overnight possible* development..

    Ari Meirov (works @PFF*)
     
    Deshaun Watson has reached confidential settlements with 3 out of the remaining 4 civil lawsuits that were filed against him, according to attorney Tony Buzbee.
    Ashley Solis, the first plaintiff, is among those to settle.
    There is only one civil lawsuit against Watson left.

    several markets now confirming.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34325319/ruling-cleveland-browns-qb-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case-expected-monday-sources-say

  • @gumby73 said:

    Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:

    Well that's a change of heart.  What brought that on pray tell?

    @orion said:

    Well that's a change of heart.  What brought that on pray tell?

    I'm guessing they know what the punishment is going to be, and are fine with it. 

    And they put it out there BEFORE it is announced that they would stand by the decision (that they somehow found out early) and put it on the NFL to stand by the judge's decision too (knowing that the NFL is going to not be happy with the decision). Just my guess.

  • 6 games.  
     

    Just one division opponent.   3-3.  4-2 is gravy 

  • As being reported on Fox 8 Cleveland.

    https://fox8.com/news/deshaun-watson-discipline-decision-expected-monday/

    Edit: Also no fines were issued.

  • GO BROWNS!!