Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.
You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."
So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.
Almost August, and here we are....
All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:
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Zombo said:
When we first signed Watson, I was happy. I defended him. "Ok, he's REALLY into massage girls, likes happy endings, and while inappropriate, his behavior is not criminal. This attorney has a personal vendetta for him and is very good at coaching these women that they have been wronged"
The Browns said they vetted the hell out of the situation and that Watson was a good person and they wanted to build around him.
Watson said he did nothing wrong, and since we were in He Said / She Said territory, and there were no criminal charges ... I was all in on the new QB of the Cleveland Browns.
The NY Times article flipped things for me. I saw him as a different person: He manipulated the Texans, he lied to the Browns, and he lied to us at his press conference.
No one needs 66 different massage women in 17 months. No one needs a luxury hotel room where different massage girls are sent. No one needs a massage girl to sign a NDA unless creepy things are happening.
We traded our future away and paid $243 M guaranteed to a lying creep.
Oh ... my Browns.
The draft picks are gone.
But we can sue Watson for lying and then Jimmy can sell the team to a fucking hands off owner and let the football people run the team.
He just keeps fucking up.
But that's probably not happening. We will probably have Briskett go 9-8 this year and then we will have to start letting some talent go because of Watson's back ended guaranteed contract and never get to the Super Bowl while we root for a team led by this creep.
Oh ... my Browns ?
Z
She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.
You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."
So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.
Almost August, and here we are....
All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:
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Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization.
Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love?
I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.
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She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.
You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."
So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.
Almost August, and here we are....
All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:
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Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization.
Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love?
I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.
Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization.
Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love?
I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.
Good to see you back in the mix again!
All of a sudden I'm a 58 year old teenager so I'm going to do what I did in the very beginning. Forget about the owner, fall madly in love with the oline, running game and talent we have on defense. Then, hope we we add 1 more veteran DT and pray this team doesn't have injuries to positions with the least amount of depth.
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Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow.
Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow.
I'll say 10 games when it's all said and done.
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Rumors are that we will find out Watson's fate tomorrow.
I'll say 10 games when it's all said and done.
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Interesting! Here's the strange thing, it's actually Atlanta and New Orleans that play in domes.
Like you alluded to, Cleveland weather isn't a big deal to many while others demand more money to come play in it. FWIW about the bad weather in Great Lake climates, Josh Allen couldn't be playing any better in Buffalo right now.
Ever been to a game in Laramie late in the season? Sometimes 30-40 mph winds with 20 F (or lower). He's had a ton of experience in an open stadium there. Plus it's over 7,000 ft above sea level. There's a reason one UW facility is named "High Altitude Training Center".??️?️
Ever been to a game in Laramie late in the season? Sometimes 30-40 mph winds with 20 F (or lower). He's had a ton of experience in an open stadium there. Plus it's over 7,000 ft above sea level. There's a reason one UW facility is named "High Altitude Training Center".??️?️
Never been to a game Tex, but been to the U. Wyoming campus several times.... 7,000 foot elevation? Try 10,000 feet west of there in the Wind River Range in August. Three inches of snow, and freezing temperatures.
Last time we were out there (same August time frame) the clerk at the new hotel in Pinedale down the road told us she was a little surprised that they hadn't caught any snow yet. -
https://clesportstalk.com/stupid-a-4-8-game-suspension-for-deshaun-watson/
Not sure how seriously I could take journalism with typos. I mean for me? Sure my stuff looks like crap but I kind of agree with this sentiment either slap him with a season or just let him go. Four or eight games doesn't serve any purpose.
WSS
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Make him clean the ladies restrooms in the stadium. One every other day (except Sunday) 'til they're all done.
This is the first ruling of this new ruling system. There are people from either side of the fence ready to pronounce the ruling to be a poor one. Including lawsuits and appeals. Why, there could be rioting in the streets. Cars set afire. Looting Walmarts for TV's and pool supplies. You name it.
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might be good news that it's not a year the NFL wanted....
Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:
Our joint statement with Deshaun Watson on the impending arbitration decision:
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Sunday night, the NFLPA announced that, along with Watson, have decided not to appeal whatever decision Robinson hands down:
Well that's a change of heart. What brought that on pray tell?
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
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Florio rarely works past 9pm...
Beware of smoke..
but this may have happened... duplicated by many of the main media outlets..
Citing unnamed sources, Graziano reports that the NFL and NFL Players Association engaged in settlement talks in recent days.
The NFLPA, working with Watson’s camp, wasn’t willing to accept more than 6-8 games.
The league would agree to 12 games plus a fine in the range of $8 million.
Florio..(by candlelight)
thank god for a job come Monday...
Jesus take the wheel ...
Edit-- 1 AM overnight possible* development..
Ari Meirov (works @PFF*)Deshaun Watson has reached confidential settlements with 3 out of the remaining 4 civil lawsuits that were filed against him, according to attorney Tony Buzbee.Ashley Solis, the first plaintiff, is among those to settle.There is only one civil lawsuit against Watson left.several markets now confirming.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34325319/ruling-cleveland-browns-qb-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case-expected-monday-sources-say
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Well that's a change of heart. What brought that on pray tell?
I'm guessing they know what the punishment is going to be, and are fine with it.
And they put it out there BEFORE it is announced that they would stand by the decision (that they somehow found out early) and put it on the NFL to stand by the judge's decision too (knowing that the NFL is going to not be happy with the decision). Just my guess.
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6 games.
Just one division opponent. 3-3. 4-2 is gravy
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As being reported on Fox 8 Cleveland.
https://fox8.com/news/deshaun-watson-discipline-decision-expected-monday/
Edit: Also no fines were issued.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Go Deshaun! Go Browns!
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Alright! 6 games and then we go undefeated! Go Browns!
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As being reported on Fox 8 Cleveland.
https://fox8.com/news/deshaun-watson-discipline-decision-expected-monday/
Edit: Also no fines were issued.
As being reported on Fox 8 Cleveland.
https://fox8.com/news/deshaun-watson-discipline-decision-expected-monday/
Edit: Also no fines were issued.
I would have titled this thread "A Happy Ending for most Browns fans"! lol
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