Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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Gonna be real awkward when Jacoby goes 6-0
Not far fetched at all. We are coming into September with continuity on the coaching side 3 straight years staff in tact that most others teams don’t have. So I expect us to be sharper out of the gate.
Our toughest game is the Chargers. You still run right at them and avoid 3rd and longs and hopefully our defense covers their WRs that game.
The Pats game…hopefully we find our man card and we get a little redemption from last year when a rookie QB schooled us. Fact here: Brissett is 2-1 against the Pats.
Steelers game will be ugly 13-10 type game winnable for sure. This is an ugly defense special teams game.
catching the Jets and their young roster at probably a great time.
We know Baker…we spent four years game-planning to mitigate his weaknesses.
The Falcons are playing for CJ Stroud.
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Hopefully Watson appeals and gets it reduced another two games down to four games.
Complete and total garbage that Watson is getting railroaded like this, but the NFL is trying to protect their image. TWO grand juries would not indict him because there is not one shred of proof of any wrong doing. People are simply using group think to reach the conclusion that "Twenty-six is too many!!!!". Then why didn't TWO grand juries think so? Especially in Texas where they have express lanes to convict people. Bull. Crap.
But moving forward to the season, if Jacoby can get us to 3-3 then Watson will be in good shape to take over and get us to the playoffs. Here we go Brownies, here we go!!!
Dear Lord I can't believe people still aren't getting it.
Two grand juries would not indict him because he did nothing ILLEGAL, not that he didn't do anything wrong.
From the NFL personal conduct policy:
Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.
It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. We are all held to a higher standard and must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, promotes the values of the NFL, and is lawful.
The perv had not been railroaded and deserved what he got.
Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.
YEP.
You aren't getting. We know what the letter of the law states. Your argument just bolsters what I said. He doing nothing against the law, there is no shred of evidence that he did anything that violates the conduct you are quoting. It's not against the law or the NFL personal conduct policy to get massages, most NFL athletes get them. You are participating in group think because you don't like the quantity or the #MeToo cancel culture garbage, well you and everyone else don't get to be judge and jury.
You are not getting it. What part of "integrity" don't you understand? Not only did he do all the 66? women thing, he LIED to the Browns, to the public.....
He was not railroaded, he deserved to be suspended for the lies, and the whole bunch of crap he put on himself, the Browns and the NFL.
He lost his integrity hugely, and the browns are the laughingstock of the NFL. But there are a lot of terrific players with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY on the browns - they deserve to win. I actually hope they do win, except for the first game of course, with Baker starting, lol, and then I hope they lose every game watson plays in.
Just call it "poetic justice".
6 games - is a lot of meney, a lot of playing time lost. Fair enough punishment.
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Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.
YEP.
You aren't getting. We know what the letter of the law states. Your argument just bolsters what I said. He doing nothing against the law, there is no shred of evidence that he did anything that violates the conduct you are quoting. It's not against the law or the NFL personal conduct policy to get massages, most NFL athletes get them. You are participating in group think because you don't like the quantity or the #MeToo cancel culture garbage, well you and everyone else don't get to be judge and jury.
You are not getting it. What part of "integrity" don't you understand? Not only did he do all the 66? women thing, he LIED to the Browns, to the public.....
He was not railroaded, he deserved to be suspended for the lies, and the whole bunch of crap he put on himself, the Browns and the NFL.
He lost his integrity hugely, and the browns are the laughingstock of the NFL. But there are a lot of terrific players with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY on the browns - they deserve to win. I actually hope they do win, except for the first game of course, with Baker starting, lol, and then I hope they lose every game watson plays in.
Just call it "poetic justice".
6 games - is a lot of meney, a lot of playing time lost. Fair enough punishment.
YEP.
You are not getting it. What part of "integrity" don't you understand? Not only did he do all the 66? women thing, he LIED to the Browns, to the public.....
He was not railroaded, he deserved to be suspended for the lies, and the whole bunch of crap he put on himself, the Browns and the NFL.
He lost his integrity hugely, and the browns are the laughingstock of the NFL. But there are a lot of terrific players with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY on the browns - they deserve to win. I actually hope they do win, except for the first game of course, with Baker starting, lol, and then I hope they lose every game watson plays in.
Just call it "poetic justice".
6 games - is a lot of meney, a lot of playing time lost. Fair enough punishment.
Don't like my opinion? Fuck off. Don't like Deshaun only got 6 games? Fuck off. You want to root for Baker? Become a Carolina Panthers fan. Again, you and everyone who participates in group think to convict on quantity are part of the #MeToo crap.
Six games isn't a lot of money when the Browns are only paying him $1 million this year. ?
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YEP.
You are not getting it. What part of "integrity" don't you understand? Not only did he do all the 66? women thing, he LIED to the Browns, to the public.....
He was not railroaded, he deserved to be suspended for the lies, and the whole bunch of crap he put on himself, the Browns and the NFL.
He lost his integrity hugely, and the browns are the laughingstock of the NFL. But there are a lot of terrific players with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY on the browns - they deserve to win. I actually hope they do win, except for the first game of course, with Baker starting, lol, and then I hope they lose every game watson plays in.
Just call it "poetic justice".
6 games - is a lot of meney, a lot of playing time lost. Fair enough punishment.
Don't like my opinion? Fuck off. Don't like Deshaun only got 6 games? Fuck off. You want to root for Baker? Become a Carolina Panthers fan. Again, you and everyone who participates in group think to convict on quantity are part of the #MeToo crap.
Six games isn't a lot of money when the Browns are only paying him $1 million this year. ?
Don't like my opinion? Fuck off. Don't like Deshaun only got 6 games? Fuck off. You want to root for Baker? Become a Carolina Panthers fan. Again, you and everyone who participates in group think to convict on quantity are part of the #MeToo crap.
Six games isn't a lot of money when the Browns are only paying him $1 million this year. ?
ah, the old "fo" when your argument gets shown for what it is - wrong. I don't care about your opinion - except that I showed it was wrong. Go back and read - I SAID "fair enough punishment". and, btw, both sides of the issue supporting and not supporting dw can be called "groupthink". You don't make much common sense on the issue.
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Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.
YEP.
You aren't getting. We know what the letter of the law states. Your argument just bolsters what I said. He doing nothing against the law, there is no shred of evidence that he did anything that violates the conduct you are quoting. It's not against the law or the NFL personal conduct policy to get massages, most NFL athletes get them. You are participating in group think because you don't like the quantity or the #MeToo cancel culture garbage, well you and everyone else don't get to be judge and jury.
You are not getting it. What part of "integrity" don't you understand? Not only did he do all the 66? women thing, he LIED to the Browns, to the public.....
He was not railroaded, he deserved to be suspended for the lies, and the whole bunch of crap he put on himself, the Browns and the NFL.
He lost his integrity hugely, and the browns are the laughingstock of the NFL. But there are a lot of terrific players with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY on the browns - they deserve to win. I actually hope they do win, except for the first game of course, with Baker starting, lol, and then I hope they lose every game watson plays in.
Just call it "poetic justice".
6 games - is a lot of meney, a lot of playing time lost. Fair enough punishment.
YEP.
You are not getting it. What part of "integrity" don't you understand? Not only did he do all the 66? women thing, he LIED to the Browns, to the public.....
He was not railroaded, he deserved to be suspended for the lies, and the whole bunch of crap he put on himself, the Browns and the NFL.
He lost his integrity hugely, and the browns are the laughingstock of the NFL. But there are a lot of terrific players with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY on the browns - they deserve to win. I actually hope they do win, except for the first game of course, with Baker starting, lol, and then I hope they lose every game watson plays in.
Just call it "poetic justice".
6 games - is a lot of meney, a lot of playing time lost. Fair enough punishment.
First, I'll agree with you that 6 games is fair, and gives the League some justification that outright sleaze is a no-no. However, I'd like to think Watson wasn't having sex with all 60 or so of his accusers. More than 1\2 the women weren't even interested in being part of Busbee's civil suit. To the point one essentially said "call me back anytime".
Except for the Final Four "rub"- pun intended- enough $$$ on their indignation from Watson and the Texans, and it all went away right? Apparently the holdouts asking price is a bit higher. Details will all come out in the wash, er court- this comming spring if it's not settled by then. Court TV is salivating at the prospect.
Finally, though it looks bad, real bad now- this will all fade into the mists of time. Some may remember (I had to look up the date) of the Vikings infamous Love Boat orgy in 2005. I'll hazard a guess very few in the long run turned in their fan cards over it.
Watson IMHO has a chance to prove he's learned his lesson, and fly right from now on. His bank account is a lot lighter because of it. Another screw up and he's toast.
EDIT: I saw in the other thread three out of the four holdouts have reached an "undisclosed" financial settlement. 24 down, one to go. My bet is take the money and run lady.
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Someone hug Charlie Weiss (if you can get your arms around him). I haven’t seen or heard him this upset since powerhouse U Kansas let him go. He spent the greater part of 45 minutes on NFL radio whining away. Him and his parter just gave their representation of the facts.
he’s upset too for teams like the Ravens and Bengals that need to give their QB Guaranteed money now. Outrageous if you ask me. Tee Higgins may not be a Bengal in a couple years now.
Someone hug Charlie Weiss (if you can get your arms around him). I haven’t seen or heard him this upset since powerhouse U Kansas let him go. He spent the greater part of 45 minutes on NFL radio whining away. Him and his parter just gave their representation of the facts.
he’s upset too for teams like the Ravens and Bengals that need to give their QB Guaranteed money now. Outrageous if you ask me. Tee Higgins may not be a Bengal in a couple years now.
? I lost a mouth-full of water on that Charlie Weiss comment!
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Sounds like the NFL wants to limit who’s performing the “rub-n-tug” on our franchise QB. ??
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I wonder if the slap was on the throwing or non throwing wrist?
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WSS
I wonder if the slap was on the throwing or non throwing wrist?
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WSS
I'm betting DW hoped for the ass.
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6 games.
Just one division opponent. 3-3. 4-2 is gravy
6 games.
Just one division opponent. 3-3. 4-2 is gravy
It's working out way better than I thought it would. You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.
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Hopefully Watson appeals and gets it reduced another two games down to four games.
He and the NFL PA already said they would accept her decision and not appeal. Now it's up to the commish to not be a hypocrite vis a vis punishment to owners for conduct unbecoming.
He and the NFL PA already said they would accept her decision and not appeal. Now it's up to the commish to not be a hypocrite vis a vis punishment to owners for conduct unbecoming.
It would look real bad for Goodell to agree with the NFLPA on having an independent arbitrator hear disciplinary cases, and then right out of the gate say- six games isn't enough.
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Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.
Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.
I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Not to bring a somber note into all of this... I just wonder how Gipper would've thought about this and approached it with his years of experience on the bench... Would've been great to hear his take on this...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
6 games.
Just one division opponent. 3-3. 4-2 is gravy
It's working out way better than I thought it would. You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!
It's working out way better than I thought it would. You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!
First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H).
Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens.
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He and the NFL PA already said they would accept her decision and not appeal. Now it's up to the commish to not be a hypocrite vis a vis punishment to owners for conduct unbecoming.
It would look real bad for Goodell to agree with the NFLPA on having an independent arbitrator hear disciplinary cases, and then right out of the gate say- six games isn't enough.
It would look real bad for Goodell to agree with the NFLPA on having an independent arbitrator hear disciplinary cases, and then right out of the gate say- six games isn't enough.
Maybe he'll drop it down to four. ??
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Not to bring a somber note into all of this... I just wonder how Gipper would've thought about this and approached it with his years of experience on the bench... Would've been great to hear his take on this...
Not to bring a somber note into all of this... I just wonder how Gipper would've thought about this and approached it with his years of experience on the bench... Would've been great to hear his take on this...
For starters, I think he would accepted the arbitrators version of the facts over the Media and the Court of Public Opinions version of the facts.
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Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.
I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...
I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...
He lost 6 game checks how is that enabling him? How much did the Texans lose proportionately given that they were the real enablers? All professional sports are tainted, occasionally the mask slips off to expose the darkness that it really underlies it let's not fool ourselves.
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It is important to let this play out.
Things to note:
The owners are not subject to the CBA which this falls under.
The gambler is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.
The PED user is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.
The ball deflator is not subject to the Person Conduct Policy which this falls under.
All those comparisons are not applicable in this instance.
However, all of those comparisons are applicable in the court of public opinion.
The MOST notable legitimate comparisons are Big Ben (1 accusation - 6 games) and Zeke Elliot (1 accusation - 6 games)
Sue Robinson's quote "Egregious misconduct"
I think this will be upped by 2-6 games and he will be fined and he will be required to attend counseling (which he should do regardless).
The NFL won't want to look weak, but will not want this drawn out all season again. So they won't go for the full season, but they will increase it. But not by so much as to draw appeals from the NFLPA.
8-12 games.
IMHO
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