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  • Sounds like the NFL wants to limit who’s performing the “rub-n-tug” on our franchise QB. ??

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  • I wonder if the slap was on the throwing or non throwing wrist?

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    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I wonder if the slap was on the throwing or non throwing wrist?

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    WSS

    I'm betting DW hoped for the ass. 

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  • 6 games.  
     

    Just one division opponent.   3-3.  4-2 is gravy 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    6 games.  
     

    Just one division opponent.   3-3.  4-2 is gravy 

    It's working out way better than I thought it would.  You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!

  • Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Hopefully Watson appeals and gets it reduced another two games down to four games.

    He and the NFL PA already said they would accept her decision and not appeal. Now it's up to the commish to not be a hypocrite vis a vis punishment to owners for conduct unbecoming.

    @texasag1969 said:

    He and the NFL PA already said they would accept her decision and not appeal. Now it's up to the commish to not be a hypocrite vis a vis punishment to owners for conduct unbecoming.

    It would look real bad for Goodell to agree with the NFLPA on having an independent arbitrator hear disciplinary cases, and then right out of the gate say- six games isn't enough.  

  • Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.

    @mddawg said:

    Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.

    I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...

  • Not to bring a somber note into all of this... I just wonder how Gipper would've thought about this and approached it with his years of experience on the bench... Would've been great to hear his take on this...

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    6 games.  
     

    Just one division opponent.   3-3.  4-2 is gravy 

    It's working out way better than I thought it would.  You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!

    @flugel said:

    It's working out way better than I thought it would.  You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!

    First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H). 

    Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    He and the NFL PA already said they would accept her decision and not appeal. Now it's up to the commish to not be a hypocrite vis a vis punishment to owners for conduct unbecoming.

    It would look real bad for Goodell to agree with the NFLPA on having an independent arbitrator hear disciplinary cases, and then right out of the gate say- six games isn't enough.  

    @hoorta said:

    It would look real bad for Goodell to agree with the NFLPA on having an independent arbitrator hear disciplinary cases, and then right out of the gate say- six games isn't enough.  

    Maybe he'll drop it down to four. ??

  • Not to bring a somber note into all of this... I just wonder how Gipper would've thought about this and approached it with his years of experience on the bench... Would've been great to hear his take on this...

    @nickers said:

    Not to bring a somber note into all of this... I just wonder how Gipper would've thought about this and approached it with his years of experience on the bench... Would've been great to hear his take on this...

    For starters, I think he would accepted the arbitrators version of the facts over the Media and the Court of Public Opinions version of the facts.

  • @mddawg said:

    Great day for true Browns fans. Nearly all the commentators are ignoring the NFL's own rule book on punishment guidelines. He was not charged with an offence so he can only be disciplined 4-8 games. If Gooddell challenges this he'll be humiliated by the NFLPA.

    I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...

    @nickers said:

    I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...

    He lost 6 game checks how is that enabling him? How much did the Texans lose proportionately given that they were the real enablers? All professional sports are tainted, occasionally the mask slips off to expose the darkness that it really underlies it let's not fool ourselves.

  • It is important to let this play out.

    Things to note:

    The owners are not subject to the CBA which this falls under.

    The gambler is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.

    The PED user is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.

    The ball deflator is not subject to the Person Conduct Policy which this falls under.

    All those comparisons are not applicable in this instance.

    However, all of those comparisons are applicable in the court of public opinion.

    The MOST notable legitimate comparisons are Big Ben (1 accusation - 6 games) and Zeke Elliot (1 accusation - 6 games)

    Sue Robinson's quote "Egregious misconduct"

    I think this will be upped by 2-6 games and he will be fined and he will be required to attend counseling (which he should do regardless).

    The NFL won't want to look weak, but will not want this drawn out all season again.  So they won't go for the full season, but they will increase it. But not by so much as to draw appeals from the NFLPA.

    8-12 games.

    IMHO

  • @flugel said:

    It's working out way better than I thought it would.  You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!

    First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H). 

    Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens. 

    @hoorta said:

    First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H). 

    Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens. 

    Some of the women's groups are not happy or satisfied with this ruling in this case or the NFL's stance on penalties involving the treatment of women. 

    This might  not be 100% over involving some of the women involved in this and other cases.

    We'll see what if anything happens next.   

  • I keep hearing and see the number of allegations as the basis for a longer suspension.

    Why didn’t the Grand Jury hear all 25 allegations?

    More importantly, Why did the NFLs disciplinary hearing only start with 5 cases and actually ended up taking into account just 4? This is the kind of question that may solicit an answer that the Court of Public Opinion may not want to hear. 
     

    Let’s just keep eating up the headlines and bold print on this one and not ask the tough questions. 

  • 6 games.  
     

    Just one division opponent.   3-3.  4-2 is gravy 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    6 games.  
     

    Just one division opponent.   3-3.  4-2 is gravy 

    Great to see sanity prevail. Can't wait for the Ravens game!

  • @flugel said:

    It's working out way better than I thought it would.  You've been predicting this all along so great job with that!

    First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H). 

    Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens. 

    @hoorta said:

    First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H). 

    Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens. 

    Something I'd also like to point out, those home games - ALL AFC matchups.   

    That's huge for this team.

  • @nickers said:

    I wouldn't call enabling a Sexual Predator a great day... However, For the sake of the team... I hope he learns his lesson and does well for us... I'm not a huge LBJ fan... But he came back and did what was asked of him... And we got our first Larry O'Brien...

    He lost 6 game checks how is that enabling him? How much did the Texans lose proportionately given that they were the real enablers? All professional sports are tainted, occasionally the mask slips off to expose the darkness that it really underlies it let's not fool ourselves.

    @mddawg said:

    He lost 6 game checks how is that enabling him? How much did the Texans lose proportionately given that they were the real enablers? All professional sports are tainted, occasionally the mask slips off to expose the darkness that it really underlies it let's not fool ourselves.

    What makes you think he'll stop doing these "sessions" ?... He very well could've gotten a year and deserved it... They gained 3 1st rnd draft picks and an albatross off their necks... The only difference now is the magnifying glass increased 10x's

  • For the guys playing the 'well he was already suspended for a year in texas' card, I don't believe he was suspended. I believe he sat out because he was demanding a trade. I don't know exactly what that has to do with his unhappiness with some of the coaching or front office hires.

    For what it's worth.

    WSS

  • @hoorta said:

    First six games... Panthers (A), Jets (H), Steelers (H), Falcons (A), Chargers (H), Patriots (H). 

    Then the fun starts with Watson's first game back on the road against the Ravens. 

    Something I'd also like to point out, those home games - ALL AFC matchups.   

    That's huge for this team.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Something I'd also like to point out, those home games - ALL AFC matchups.   

    That's huge for this team.

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    WSS