Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
But it isn't the NFL who is screwing the Browns fans.
Deshaun Watson caused this. The Browns, by trading for him, caused this.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
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Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
But it isn't the NFL who is screwing the Browns fans.
Deshaun Watson caused this. The Browns, by trading for him, caused this.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
But
I still say, if it costs the team 1 contract year of virtually no production of any value out of that contract year, then you're screwing the team AND at the same time bringing the higher paid salary years right up to the player's doorstep.
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can kraft now be stricken of
As a husband and father of two daughters, chalking this whole thing up to the woke mob is insulting. Suggesting that Watson should suffer some sort of consequences befitting his transgressions isn’t a question or test of political beliefs. I don’t doubt some of the women are motivated by money etc. I am convinced not all of them were/are. Regardless, I’d hope if you were ever in a position to deal out discipline to someone who had acted as Watson di toward my wife or daughters, that you’d bring the hammer down and not simply play his behavior off as the cancel culturists out for a witch hunt.
Consider this home,
I walked into a massage parlor.
They asked for 60 dollars for an hour massage.
I laid face down and received a good back rub.
The misuse then handed a pillow and motion to turn over.
Midway through the front side she began working my junk
Me being a young guy with stamina i squirted my load right in her face.
She was a bit surprised it squirted that far but heyyy
Who had their face in THE LINE OF FIRE?
Please define where sexual assault was within the hypothetical case i just wrote?
What if she pointed it towards my face and I painted my face because of her aim?
Can I then bring a suit against her for sexual misconduct????
can kraft now be stricken of
Consider this home,
I walked into a massage parlor.
They asked for 60 dollars for an hour massage.
I laid face down and received a good back rub.
The misuse then handed a pillow and motion to turn over.
Midway through the front side she began working my junk
Me being a young guy with stamina i squirted my load right in her face.
She was a bit surprised it squirted that far but heyyy
Who had their face in THE LINE OF FIRE?
Please define where sexual assault was within the hypothetical case i just wrote?
What if she pointed it towards my face and I painted my face because of her aim?
Can I then bring a suit against her for sexual misconduct????
It doesn't exist in the case you wrote. That case you wrote also doesn't apply to this.
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If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men
2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y
If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men
2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y
I've explained this elsewhere here. Kraft ...if what the allegations were are true (I think so) ...was not doing what Watson was doing. Kraft was entering into ILEGAL sure...but enterting into a trade of money for a rub and tug....between 2 consenting adults as far as Kraft knew. He wasn't paying for a massage and then rubbing his junk on the massuese, who wasn't being paid to handle his junk.
If you want to point out the hypocracy of no punishment for Kraft, or other owners for other issues...I'm all ears becasue I'd agree.....and I'd also then point to:
my next point...wich I made earlier....
Goodell doesn't have to be doing any of this. He....PER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THE NFLPA AGREED TO AND VOTED FOR AND SIGNED OFF ON....Goodell can issue ANY punishment he wants at his discretion. And that was further entrenched with the deflategate case becasue ultimately, that's what the ruling was about....literally the judge said...yep, you all signed off on this, Mr. Goodell can issue discipline in any manner he sees fit.
There is no case the NFLPA could make that would ever stand up in any court. Goodell can do what he wants...legally. He's trying to go through this stupid arbitration and appeal process to take the burden of the decision off him alone and spread that out to other credible parties....but whenever he decides to end the show trial..he can and will.
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Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
But it isn't the NFL who is screwing the Browns fans.
Deshaun Watson caused this. The Browns, by trading for him, caused this.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
I'm not even counting on Watson playing in all* of 2023
.. I'm sorry, but he/they can't continue to let his defense team, defend he/him as Watson has done nothing wrong..
Dump Hardin/ admit some ? might have gone to far/ get help for his addiction/obsession... than hope he does nothing else stupid... because he will certainly have more target chasers in his future.
It's time he starts appealing to help himself see football games & a whole lot of loot to do so..
I'm not so Happy this Friday ! ?.... (but it's Gameday !)
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It is important to let this play out.
Things to note:
The owners are not subject to the CBA which this falls under.
The gambler is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.
The PED user is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.
The ball deflator is not subject to the Person Conduct Policy which this falls under.
All those comparisons are not applicable in this instance.
However, all of those comparisons are applicable in the court of public opinion.
The MOST notable legitimate comparisons are Big Ben (1 accusation - 6 games) and Zeke Elliot (1 accusation - 6 games)
Sue Robinson's quote "Egregious misconduct"
I think this will be upped by 2-6 games and he will be fined and he will be required to attend counseling (which he should do regardless).
The NFL won't want to look weak, but will not want this drawn out all season again. So they won't go for the full season, but they will increase it. But not by so much as to draw appeals from the NFLPA.
8-12 games.
IMHO
No fkg way.
No fkg way.
Looks like you are right, probably going to do the whole season at this point.
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I think many people are missing that this is all Watson's fault, not the NFL's.
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I think many people are missing that this is all Watson's fault, not the NFL's.
I lay some of the blame on Jimmah & Andrew.
They said that they fully investigated DW, which turns out to be ?.
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I lay some of the blame on Jimmah & Andrew.
They said that they fully investigated DW, which turns out to be ?.
TRUE ! When you are going to give a king's ransom to take on a guy and everything that goes with it you better not be 80% or 90% sure you better be absolutely positively 100% sure you know what you are doing.
So far the Dufuis Twins have failed miserably......regardless of how good a QB. DW will be. They failed miserably on the character part of this test. Laughing stocks of the NFL, thanks !
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I lay some of the blame on Jimmah & Andrew.
They said that they fully investigated DW, which turns out to be ?.
TRUE ! When you are going to give a king's ransom to take on a guy and everything that goes with it you better not be 80% or 90% sure you better be absolutely positively 100% sure you know what you are doing.
So far the Dufuis Twins have failed miserably......regardless of how good a QB. DW will be. They failed miserably on the character part of this test. Laughing stocks of the NFL, thanks !
TRUE ! When you are going to give a king's ransom to take on a guy and everything that goes with it you better not be 80% or 90% sure you better be absolutely positively 100% sure you know what you are doing.
So far the Dufuis Twins have failed miserably......regardless of how good a QB. DW will be. They failed miserably on the character part of this test. Laughing stocks of the NFL, thanks !
just absolutely true.
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Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
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Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
"Watson completed just one of his five passes for seven yards Friday in what was his first NFL action since the 2020 season."
wowzer, that has to make watson groupies choke a bit.
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Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
"Watson completed just one of his five passes for seven yards Friday in what was his first NFL action since the 2020 season."
wowzer, that has to make watson groupies choke a bit.
"Watson completed just one of his five passes for seven yards Friday in what was his first NFL action since the 2020 season."
wowzer, that has to make watson groupies choke a bit.
Don't you have a Carolina Board to throw up on somewhere?
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Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
"Watson completed just one of his five passes for seven yards Friday in what was his first NFL action since the 2020 season."
I've been saying this for years ?
For the love of anything football...
Don't chose to link nor listen to anything Fox News has to say in the sporting world..
They have chosen to add no sports talent on staff to do so ...
Besides 5 Pro Bowlers not playing..
How many of Watson's 5 passes were either dropped or on his target? should take all of 15 mins of FF review
I'm still waiting on that media genius..
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
"Watson completed just one of his five passes for seven yards Friday in what was his first NFL action since the 2020 season."
I've been saying this for years ?
For the love of anything football...
Don't chose to link nor listen to anything Fox News has to say in the sporting world..
They have chosen to add no sports talent on staff to do so ...
Besides 5 Pro Bowlers not playing..
How many of Watson's 5 passes were either dropped or on his target? should take all of 15 mins of FF review
I'm still waiting on that media genius..
I've been saying this for years ?
For the love of anything football...
Don't chose to link nor listen to anything Fox News has to say in the sporting world..
They have chosen to add no sports talent on staff to do so ...
Besides 5 Pro Bowlers not playing..
How many of Watson's 5 passes were either dropped or on his target? should take all of 15 mins of FF review
I'm still waiting on that media genius..
LOL. Yeah, I wondered about that - I didn't watch it.
But I posted it anyways, because of all the times I got bitched at for saying Baker's struggles weren't all his fault.
Being consistent about it would be good for some people. It doesn't make sense to refuse to look at various reasons Baker struggled last season, and give all sorts of reasons watson might struggle.
I just don't care about watson. Now he is apologizing to all the women, that he said earlier he never did anything...
never mind. It's the fo and the haslams that have jumped into the sewer and all the conroversy. We went to a garage sale yesterday, and this guy was selling his browns hats and a jacket. Yep, he's that disgusted with the Browns - he just can't believe the low they stooped to.
Yes, Baker has had wr's drop passes too - but it was "all Baker's fault" ???
nah. I'd blame the pass-catchers with both qb's, to be honest.
I'll just make this point - Baker is rocking with success so far in practices - the PANTHER wr's CATCH the ball. "Can you hear me now" ?
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Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
Browns' Deshaun Watson 'truly sorry to all of the women I have impacted'
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
He should be sorry for the shit show he put on last night... He looks awful!
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-deshaun-watson-truly-sorry-all-women-ive-impacted
"Watson completed just one of his five passes for seven yards Friday in what was his first NFL action since the 2020 season."
I've been saying this for years ?
For the love of anything football...
Don't chose to link nor listen to anything Fox News has to say in the sporting world..
They have chosen to add no sports talent on staff to do so ...
Besides 5 Pro Bowlers not playing..
How many of Watson's 5 passes were either dropped or on his target? should take all of 15 mins of FF review
I'm still waiting on that media genius..
I've been saying this for years ?
For the love of anything football...
Don't chose to link nor listen to anything Fox News has to say in the sporting world..
They have chosen to add no sports talent on staff to do so ...
Besides 5 Pro Bowlers not playing..
How many of Watson's 5 passes were either dropped or on his target? should take all of 15 mins of FF review
I'm still waiting on that media genius..
Cleveland Browns' Deshaun Watson, in interview, apologizes to 'all of the women that I have impacted in this situation'
Watson had an uneventful debut, completing just 1 of 5 passes for 7 yards in three series before being replaced in Cleveland's 24-13 win.
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I've been saying this for years ?
For the love of anything football...
Don't chose to link nor listen to anything Fox News has to say in the sporting world..
They have chosen to add no sports talent on staff to do so ...
Besides 5 Pro Bowlers not playing..
How many of Watson's 5 passes were either dropped or on his target? should take all of 15 mins of FF review
I'm still waiting on that media genius..
Cleveland Browns' Deshaun Watson, in interview, apologizes to 'all of the women that I have impacted in this situation'
Watson had an uneventful debut, completing just 1 of 5 passes for 7 yards in three series before being replaced in Cleveland's 24-13 win.
Cleveland Browns' Deshaun Watson, in interview, apologizes to 'all of the women that I have impacted in this situation'
Watson had an uneventful debut, completing just 1 of 5 passes for 7 yards in three series before being replaced in Cleveland's 24-13 win.
A little too late now isnt it?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Cleveland Browns' Deshaun Watson, in interview, apologizes to 'all of the women that I have impacted in this situation'
Watson had an uneventful debut, completing just 1 of 5 passes for 7 yards in three series before being replaced in Cleveland's 24-13 win.
A little too late now isnt it?
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Cleveland Browns' Deshaun Watson, in interview, apologizes to 'all of the women that I have impacted in this situation'
Watson had an uneventful debut, completing just 1 of 5 passes for 7 yards in three series before being replaced in Cleveland's 24-13 win.
A little too late now isnt it?
A little too late now isnt it?
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