My GOD - the IRS will be bigger than.....
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Scoreboard? Conservatives always lose in the long run.
Slavery outlawed
Women getting the vote
Civil Rights
Desegregation
Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid
5 day work week
Worker rights
Gay marriageThat is just off the top of my head. Change is going to happen, no matter some much you guys' cry about it.
I did remember a win for you conservatives. Flooded the country with guns and reduced the tax rate for super rich.
To borrow from Reagan- "Liberals know so much that isn't so"
Fast Facts that are good for you to know:
The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's
It was liberalism in its day that supported slavery. John Locke known as the "father of liberalism" tried to rationalize its legitimacy.
The Republican party was formed for the purpose of banning slavery.
Although those against the Civil Rights act were Democrat conservatives, you should be aware of the fact the 14th Amendment was written by Republicans and The Civil Rights Act was passed thanks to Republicans. More Dems opposed it.
As mentioned, Conservatism didn't exist in 1920. Male chauvinism at the time knew no boundaries or affiliations. Furthermore, it was the Republicans who championed the women's right to vote.
Social Security proposed by Roosevelt himself was not a liberal/conservative thing as well. Initially opposed by Republicans but in the end gained overwhelming support.
Granted Republicans have opposed Labor Unions, but again has nothing to do with "conservatism losing" simply because blue collar workers are largely conservative. My old man voted Dem and was pro union and a conservative. To suggest conservatives were against the 5-day work week is absurd.
Gay marriage who cares. You win. Good for you.
Also, you may have been taught that the white man invented slavery. They did not.
No doubt the Dems back in the day proposed some great things. The GI Bill for example. But yesterday's Democrat is todays Demonrat, and certainly not a JFK Democrat who spoke like a conservative and would be ripped to shreds by you guys.
To borrow from Reagan- "Liberals know so much that isn't so"
Fast Facts that are good for you to know:
The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's
It was liberalism in its day that supported slavery. John Locke known as the "father of liberalism" tried to rationalize its legitimacy.
The Republican party was formed for the purpose of banning slavery.
Although those against the Civil Rights act were Democrat conservatives, you should be aware of the fact the 14th Amendment was written by Republicans and The Civil Rights Act was passed thanks to Republicans. More Dems opposed it.
As mentioned, Conservatism didn't exist in 1920. Male chauvinism at the time knew no boundaries or affiliations. Furthermore, it was the Republicans who championed the women's right to vote.
Social Security proposed by Roosevelt himself was not a liberal/conservative thing as well. Initially opposed by Republicans but in the end gained overwhelming support.
Granted Republicans have opposed Labor Unions, but again has nothing to do with "conservatism losing" simply because blue collar workers are largely conservative. My old man voted Dem and was pro union and a conservative. To suggest conservatives were against the 5-day work week is absurd.
Gay marriage who cares. You win. Good for you.
Also, you may have been taught that the white man invented slavery. They did not.
No doubt the Dems back in the day proposed some great things. The GI Bill for example. But yesterday's Democrat is todays Demonrat, and certainly not a JFK Democrat who spoke like a conservative and would be ripped to shreds by you guys.
"The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's".
No shit. The religion right nuts job movement didn't start until 1970's. Lincoln was not a conservative. Stop trying to take credit for a progressive's accomplishments
Conservative have always been against change. That is the very definition of being a conservative. :averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
Progressive usually win in the long run. You are a conservative just like those civil war democrats were conservatives.
But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. -
Lincoln's Cooper Union Address
New York, New York
February 27, 1860 -
What side was Abraham Lincoln a Republican or Democrat?Lincoln, a moderate Republican, had to navigate a contentious array of factions with friends and opponents from both the Democratic and Republican parties. His allies, the War Democrats and the Radical Republicans, demanded harsh treatment of the Southern Confederates.
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To borrow from Reagan- "Liberals know so much that isn't so"
Fast Facts that are good for you to know:
The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's
It was liberalism in its day that supported slavery. John Locke known as the "father of liberalism" tried to rationalize its legitimacy.
The Republican party was formed for the purpose of banning slavery.
Although those against the Civil Rights act were Democrat conservatives, you should be aware of the fact the 14th Amendment was written by Republicans and The Civil Rights Act was passed thanks to Republicans. More Dems opposed it.
As mentioned, Conservatism didn't exist in 1920. Male chauvinism at the time knew no boundaries or affiliations. Furthermore, it was the Republicans who championed the women's right to vote.
Social Security proposed by Roosevelt himself was not a liberal/conservative thing as well. Initially opposed by Republicans but in the end gained overwhelming support.
Granted Republicans have opposed Labor Unions, but again has nothing to do with "conservatism losing" simply because blue collar workers are largely conservative. My old man voted Dem and was pro union and a conservative. To suggest conservatives were against the 5-day work week is absurd.
Gay marriage who cares. You win. Good for you.
Also, you may have been taught that the white man invented slavery. They did not.
No doubt the Dems back in the day proposed some great things. The GI Bill for example. But yesterday's Democrat is todays Demonrat, and certainly not a JFK Democrat who spoke like a conservative and would be ripped to shreds by you guys.
"The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's".
No shit. The religion right nuts job movement didn't start until 1970's. Lincoln was not a conservative. Stop trying to take credit for a progressive's accomplishments
Conservative have always been against change. That is the very definition of being a conservative. :averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
Progressive usually win in the long run. You are a conservative just like those civil war democrats were conservatives.
But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. -
Lincoln's Cooper Union Address
New York, New York
February 27, 1860"The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's".
No shit. The religion right nuts job movement didn't start until 1970's. Lincoln was not a conservative. Stop trying to take credit for a progressive's accomplishments
Conservative have always been against change. That is the very definition of being a conservative. :averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
Progressive usually win in the long run. You are a conservative just like those civil war democrats were conservatives.
But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. -
Lincoln's Cooper Union Address
New York, New York
February 27, 1860And to further piss on your parade, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.
Henry Ford started the 5 day 40 hour work week.
Those are just off the top of my head.
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"The conservative movement as we know it didn't start until the 1930's".
No shit. The religion right nuts job movement didn't start until 1970's. Lincoln was not a conservative. Stop trying to take credit for a progressive's accomplishments
Conservative have always been against change. That is the very definition of being a conservative. :averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
Progressive usually win in the long run. You are a conservative just like those civil war democrats were conservatives.
But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. -
Lincoln's Cooper Union Address
New York, New York
February 27, 1860And to further piss on your parade, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.
Henry Ford started the 5 day 40 hour work week.
Those are just off the top of my head.
And to further piss on your parade, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.
Henry Ford started the 5 day 40 hour work week.
Those are just off the top of my head.
So more progressive voted for the Civil Rights Act than conservatives.
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And to further piss on your parade, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.
Henry Ford started the 5 day 40 hour work week.
Those are just off the top of my head.
So more progressive voted for the Civil Rights Act than conservatives.
So more progressive voted for the Civil Rights Act than conservatives.
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So more progressive voted for the Civil Rights Act than conservatives.
Southern Dems?
Interesting distinction. Nothing to look into I'm sure
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I'm sure conservatives supported civil rights, a women's right to vote, etc. Because that's definitely the definition of a conservative...
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Southern Dems?
Interesting distinction. Nothing to look into I'm sure
Southern Dems?
Interesting distinction. Nothing to look into I'm sure
Oh yea. All them southern hicks are racists, right woody??
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Southern Dems?
Interesting distinction. Nothing to look into I'm sure
Southern Dems?
Interesting distinction. Nothing to look into I'm sure
Go ahead and look….and read.
Here’s a little gem from DEMOCRATIC President LBJ (a southern Dem).
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism-msna305591
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“We do not have to destroy America with missiles; America will destroy itself from within."-Nikita Khrushchev
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“We do not have to destroy America with missiles; America will destroy itself from within."-Nikita Khrushchev
“We do not have to destroy America with missiles; America will destroy itself from within."-Nikita Khrushchev
sadly, that is where we seem to be at today. dangerous times.
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“We do not have to destroy America with missiles; America will destroy itself from within."-Nikita Khrushchev
sadly, that is where we seem to be at today. dangerous times.
sadly, that is where we seem to be at today. dangerous times.
We’re still the greatest nation in the world.
we just can’t let a minority dictate to the majority.
guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do. -
I'm sure conservatives supported civil rights, a women's right to vote, etc. Because that's definitely the definition of a conservative...
I'm sure conservatives supported civil rights, a women's right to vote, etc. Because that's definitely the definition of a conservative...
Women getting the right to vote happened in 1920. Anyone with a set of balls between their legs were opposed to it. Conservatism played no role back then.
Conservatives did support Civil Rights, and yes many did not.
While neither Democrats nor Republicans, liberals nor conservatives, enjoy a completely spotless record on civil rights, conservatives within the Republican Party served historically as defenders of equal opportunity and civil rights. House Republicans such as conservative Hamilton Fish (R-NY) supported federal anti-lynching legislation in 1922, 1937, and 1940, only to have these bills defeated in the Senate by Southern Democrats. In 1934, Oscar De Priest (R-IL), the first black congressman elected in the 20th century and a staunch anti-New Deal conservative, unsuccessfully tried to integrate the House restaurant. In 1947, the Republican-controlled Senate, headed by Robert Taft, refused to seat notorious racist Theodore Bilbo (D-MS) because of intimidation of black voters in the 1946 election.
Conservatism need not be defined by it's support of civil rights. It is implied.
That all men are created equal.
Conservatives believe in the ability of mankind to build a society that respects rights, defends those rights and is also strong enough to repel the forces that would threaten it.
The 14 amendment was written by Conservatives.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
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I'm not sure why you guys have such a hard time with this.
Conservative has not always equaled Republican. Conservatives fight change, they want the status quo.
I'm not sure why you guys have such a hard time with this.
Conservative has not always equaled Republican. Conservatives fight change, they want the status quo.
Keep moving those goal posts.
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Keep moving those goal posts.
Seems like you don't understand what the phrase means
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Look at these liberals protesting! How awful!
And even more liberals here!
Because if there's anything we do know, it's that the group calling everything they don't like Communism are definitely liberals
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just because you are an ardent ignorant smart ass, woodpecker, it doesn't mean you ever make any kind of legitimate point. But be proud, be loud, be the bird you need to be.
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Keep moving those goal posts.
Seems like you don't understand what the phrase means
Seems like you don't understand what the phrase means
More whataboutism
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Seems like you don't understand what the phrase means
More whataboutism
More whataboutism
You really have problems with understanding words. Because I don't think you understand what that means either.
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