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  • @westside-steve said:

    BTW  a little more of the same

    https://www.audacy.com/theteam980/sports/florio-watsons-new-denials-could-compromise-reinstatement

    WSS

     What he's doing here is to once again stress he did nothing wrong in terms of committing a crime.

    Ok Deshaun we got it.

    He needed to say that he apologizes for behavior that was wrong and inappropriate.  He didn't do that.

    In the last line below, he is taking zero responsibility.

    I’ve always stood on my innocence, and always said I’ve never assaulted anyone or disrespected anyone, and I’m continuing to stand on that,” Watson said.

    Watson was asked, why apologize if he did nothing wrong?

    “For everyone that was affected by this situation,” Watson said. “There was a lot of people that were triggered.”

    What sanctimonious piece of garbage.

    @fy56 said:

     What he's doing here is to once again stress he did nothing wrong in terms of committing a crime.

    Ok Deshaun we got it.

    He needed to say that he apologizes for behavior that was wrong and inappropriate.  He didn't do that.

    In the last line below, he is taking zero responsibility.

    I’ve always stood on my innocence, and always said I’ve never assaulted anyone or disrespected anyone, and I’m continuing to stand on that,” Watson said.

    Watson was asked, why apologize if he did nothing wrong?

    “For everyone that was affected by this situation,” Watson said. “There was a lot of people that were triggered.”

    What sanctimonious piece of garbage.

    go root for carolina

  • N Neo

    @nickers said:

    Just because its settled it does not mean we have to like the sleazeball..

    You're right. I guess there are things that we can't help like you being a crybaby dickwad about every little thing. I bet you will be in the crowd to boo him at Browns stadium when he comes back for his first game because we all know your shit doesn't stink. 

    I just want to get back to Browns football.

    @neo said:

    You're right. I guess there are things that we can't help like you being a crybaby dickwad about every little thing. I bet you will be in the crowd to boo him at Browns stadium when he comes back for his first game because we all know your shit doesn't stink. 

    I just want to get back to Browns football.

    Wow who pissed in your cheerios this morning Don Puerco?.. I guess you'll be the first in line to hug his nuts...

  • sydS syd

    @fy56 said:

     What he's doing here is to once again stress he did nothing wrong in terms of committing a crime.

    Ok Deshaun we got it.

    He needed to say that he apologizes for behavior that was wrong and inappropriate.  He didn't do that.

    In the last line below, he is taking zero responsibility.

    I’ve always stood on my innocence, and always said I’ve never assaulted anyone or disrespected anyone, and I’m continuing to stand on that,” Watson said.

    Watson was asked, why apologize if he did nothing wrong?

    “For everyone that was affected by this situation,” Watson said. “There was a lot of people that were triggered.”

    What sanctimonious piece of garbage.

    go root for carolina

    @syd said:

    go root for carolina

    What would make you say something like that?

  • @gumby73 said:

    Matt Ryan is killing it at Colts camp..

    He's gonna be my FL QB 1st pick.

    @texasag1969 said:

    He's gonna be my FL QB 1st pick.

    It won't be too long for the FL teams, drafts and all of that good stuff. 

    Good for the offseason that wouldn't end.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    He's gonna be my FL QB 1st pick.

    It won't be too long for the FL teams, drafts and all of that good stuff. 

    Good for the offseason that wouldn't end.  

    @mjp28 said:

    It won't be too long for the FL teams, drafts and all of that good stuff. 

    Good for the offseason that wouldn't end.  

    Last time I played in 2020 I had Cupp, McCaffrey, and Mostert go down in the 1st two weeks of the season. Ruined 3 of my top 4 right off the bat for the season. Derrick Henry saved my season though to break even for the year.

  • Ward picks off faker and stares him down running past to the house. 

  • Ward picks off faker and stares him down running past to the house. 

    @silver-slayer said:

    Ward picks off faker and stares him down running past to the house. 

    I thought he did that to Joe Burrow.  The Warden must have put acid in my drink...

  • @westside-steve said:

    BTW  a little more of the same

    https://www.audacy.com/theteam980/sports/florio-watsons-new-denials-could-compromise-reinstatement

    They should've just taken the friggin' NFL to court if he's going to maintain he's innocent, while the NFL wants him to genuflect and kiss Roger's ring.    And people are now pissed because it's still not enough punishment.  Just cut his pecker off and be done with it already.  

    Look, he's been a sleezebag.  OK, we get it!  If the criteria for being an NFL player is being an alter boy then from now on only alter boys can play in the league.  Ban him from the league and give the Browns the rest of the traded draft picks back.  Then from now on anyone who does something stupid is banned...like Hunt, Ray Lewis, Rapistburger, etc., etc., etc., .......

    @orion said:

    They should've just taken the friggin' NFL to court if he's going to maintain he's innocent, while the NFL wants him to genuflect and kiss Roger's ring.    And people are now pissed because it's still not enough punishment.  Just cut his pecker off and be done with it already.  

    Look, he's been a sleezebag.  OK, we get it!  If the criteria for being an NFL player is being an alter boy then from now on only alter boys can play in the league.  Ban him from the league and give the Browns the rest of the traded draft picks back.  Then from now on anyone who does something stupid is banned...like Hunt, Ray Lewis, Rapistburger, etc., etc., etc., .......

    I think you are talking apples and oranges with Hunt Lewis Roethlisberger Cheesecake Factory etc.

    I can further discuss if you really don't get it but I'll bet you can. 

    Even if every single one of these women was a whore if you had a friend, family member coworker Etc that visited a house of ill repute on a nearly weekly basis (like Zombo ???) you'd think even if he wasn't a criminal he was kind of a sick fuck.

    WSS

  • @orion said:

    They should've just taken the friggin' NFL to court if he's going to maintain he's innocent, while the NFL wants him to genuflect and kiss Roger's ring.    And people are now pissed because it's still not enough punishment.  Just cut his pecker off and be done with it already.  

    Look, he's been a sleezebag.  OK, we get it!  If the criteria for being an NFL player is being an alter boy then from now on only alter boys can play in the league.  Ban him from the league and give the Browns the rest of the traded draft picks back.  Then from now on anyone who does something stupid is banned...like Hunt, Ray Lewis, Rapistburger, etc., etc., etc., .......

    I think you are talking apples and oranges with Hunt Lewis Roethlisberger Cheesecake Factory etc.

    I can further discuss if you really don't get it but I'll bet you can. 

    Even if every single one of these women was a whore if you had a friend, family member coworker Etc that visited a house of ill repute on a nearly weekly basis (like Zombo ???) you'd think even if he wasn't a criminal he was kind of a sick fuck.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    you'd think even if he wasn't a criminal he was kind of a sick fuck.

    No argument.  But being kind of a sick fuck has never been exclusionary.  It used to be a semi-sought trait for non-skill positions.  (although a somewhat different kind of sick).

  • @westside-steve said:

    you'd think even if he wasn't a criminal he was kind of a sick fuck.

    No argument.  But being kind of a sick fuck has never been exclusionary.  It used to be a semi-sought trait for non-skill positions.  (although a somewhat different kind of sick).

    @orion said:

    No argument.  But being kind of a sick fuck has never been exclusionary.  It used to be a semi-sought trait for non-skill positions.  (although a somewhat different kind of sick).

    North Dallas Forty.   LOL!

    Or in this case South Houston 66!?

  • N Neo

    @jrb12711 said:

    and there's nothing more I can say to you

    Shouldn't be hard considering you didn't say much to begin with.

    @jrb12711 said:

    This is a willing and able piece of shit.

    Well if he makes you cry on the inside there are other things to do in the fall.

    @neo said:

    Shouldn't be hard considering you didn't say much to begin with.

    I wrote two detailed paragraphs, and this is a fan forum. Do you want a 5 page, double spaced, citation paper? Or are you choosing not to read critically? In any case, it's not my concern.

    @unsympathetic said:

    And.. if you think 2 different grand juries failing to indict him assuming all the evidence is true was entirely a nothingburger I really don't know why you keep repeating ..

    Fact: Grand juries start with the premise that if evidence is introduced, it's true.  The purpose of a grand jury is to answer a [relatively] simple question.. IF the evidence is true, is this enough to move forward?  Here's the law/the standard in one hand, here's our evidence in the other. Do they match..  that's it. Conviction isn't a consideration.

    Yes, I understand grand juries well. My family has been practicing attorneys in South Florida for a combined 60 years, and presented to many grands juries in that time. I asked them their honest opinion of the matter, and it was a simple "indicting a ham sandwich is a myth". There's plenty of times where a grand jury doesn't indict as a miscarriage of justice. This, for example, is a good story (albeit older): https://www.recordonline.com/story/news/2000/11/03/exploding-myth-about-grand-juries/51197640007/

    Here's another example in Texas of a man who has nearly 15 accusations of sexual assault not being indicted: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2020/10/25/handcuffed-tied-down-beaten-pastor-rickie-rush-faces-new-allegations-of-abusing-children/

    Sometimes the legal system doesn't hold up to abuse, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bills-p-matt-araiza-2-san-diego-state-teammates-accused-of-gang-rape-in-lawsuit-223612033.html
     

    What will come of this? 

    Story feels reminiscent of a pretty famous story out of Steubenville, Ohio regarding high profile football players from the last decade. I believe at least one of the players had a full ride to Ohio State. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bills-p-matt-araiza-2-san-diego-state-teammates-accused-of-gang-rape-in-lawsuit-223612033.html
     

    What will come of this? 

    The Bills officially committed to Araiza as their starting punter earlier this week when they released veteran Matt Haack, leaving the rookie as the only punter on their roster. They did so reportedly knowing about the allegations against Araiza.

    Flo's NFL statement..https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/25/nfl-cant-punish-matt-araiza-but-the-bills-could-cut-him-in-theory/

  • Has Mr DW figured it out yet that he doesn't need to put up with all of this hassle ?   

    The Cleveland Browns have guaranteed his future of being a rich player no matter what he does or how he performs or even whether he's in shape or not.  

    He hasn't played in forever and is facing even more real NFL hitting and action to be lost.  This in a game where not being 100% sharp is so crucial. 

    Bottom line the BROWNS  are screwed.

    @mjp28 said:

    Has Mr DW figured it out yet that he doesn't need to put up with all of this hassle ?   

    The Cleveland Browns have guaranteed his future of being a rich player no matter what he does or how he performs or even whether he's in shape or not.  

    He hasn't played in forever and is facing even more real NFL hitting and action to be lost.  This in a game where not being 100% sharp is so crucial. 

    Bottom line the BROWNS  are screwed.

    Sorry I missed this post.  Very interesting perspective!

    A very big part of football is how a player or team responds to adversity.  When character and leadership wasn't sufficient in Cleveland, adversity became an excuse for this franchise to accept losing.  If some of the crap we've seen since 99 unfolded back in the 80s, there would be vocal guys like LB Mike Johnson and others.  There were also quiet veteran leaders like Clay Matthews and Ozzie Newsome defining PROFESSIONALISM with work ethic, preparation (film study & practice) and unselfishly leaving his starting LB spot/comfort zone to fill in for an injured LB with a different role. And then there were the QBs featuring local favorite Bernie Kosar and Brian Sipe (from 13th round draft pick to NFL MVP).

    One of the reasons I was excited we drafted Baker was adversity gave him all of the fuel he needed to make himself into a 1st round pick.  Then, he started winning in a place that was 1-31 before him and winless his rookie year prior to taking the field with a 14 point deficit. He erased the deficit to help the Browns win; and excitement came back to the team and fan base.  BUT, a big part of me opted to forget Baker's 1st college football team needed to upgrade him with more elite football skills via Patrick Mahomes. Now a pissed off Baker headed to Oklahoma, where he performed well enough to win the Heisman and get his team into the BCS final 4 with an exciting multiple OT game vrs Georgia. We know the rest.  Baker helped get us out the worst 2 year period we've had, broke a rookie record for TD passes despite only 13 starts.  Then came the wedding plans, commercials and other things that looked to be interfering with his original plan of attack for the lifelong dream.  Not only that, but the more teams saw him on film - the more they could prove he's not an elite talent especially objective fans (unlike myself when it comes to Baker).

    This year, here came an available Deshaun Watson with only 3 teams competing for his situation.  When we got right down to it, that turned into only 1 team willing to compete.  Looks like we're taking a step backward at first with a guy that once responded to every ounce of adversity Nick Saban and the best team in the country could throw at him. YES, that's only college football; but Alabama puts a lot of guys on NFL starting lineups.  Like Bernie Kosar once helped transcend the Miami Hurricanes into a National Champion over a Nebraska team they weren't supposed to beat - Watson took Clemson to a level where they could win Championships.  QBs that can transcend a major college football program to the elite - showcase the ability to overcome adversity.  I'm very glad the NFL intervention is making Watson get the counseling he needs for the clear head required to take this team where we need him to.  Meanwhile, I expect Baker to be Baker and bring some excitement and promise to Carolina after he loses to Cleveland.  The problem is I don't know how long he is wired to maintain it for a coaching staff that can't afford him to fail or be inconsistent. More so, he has to prove he can handle success by remembering what it took to get there and working on weaknesses. He should contact Drew Brees because that guy took 4 years to launch.

    Sorry for the length...

  • @mjp28 said:

    Has Mr DW figured it out yet that he doesn't need to put up with all of this hassle ?   

    The Cleveland Browns have guaranteed his future of being a rich player no matter what he does or how he performs or even whether he's in shape or not.  

    He hasn't played in forever and is facing even more real NFL hitting and action to be lost.  This in a game where not being 100% sharp is so crucial. 

    Bottom line the BROWNS  are screwed.

    Sorry I missed this post.  Very interesting perspective!

    A very big part of football is how a player or team responds to adversity.  When character and leadership wasn't sufficient in Cleveland, adversity became an excuse for this franchise to accept losing.  If some of the crap we've seen since 99 unfolded back in the 80s, there would be vocal guys like LB Mike Johnson and others.  There were also quiet veteran leaders like Clay Matthews and Ozzie Newsome defining PROFESSIONALISM with work ethic, preparation (film study & practice) and unselfishly leaving his starting LB spot/comfort zone to fill in for an injured LB with a different role. And then there were the QBs featuring local favorite Bernie Kosar and Brian Sipe (from 13th round draft pick to NFL MVP).

    One of the reasons I was excited we drafted Baker was adversity gave him all of the fuel he needed to make himself into a 1st round pick.  Then, he started winning in a place that was 1-31 before him and winless his rookie year prior to taking the field with a 14 point deficit. He erased the deficit to help the Browns win; and excitement came back to the team and fan base.  BUT, a big part of me opted to forget Baker's 1st college football team needed to upgrade him with more elite football skills via Patrick Mahomes. Now a pissed off Baker headed to Oklahoma, where he performed well enough to win the Heisman and get his team into the BCS final 4 with an exciting multiple OT game vrs Georgia. We know the rest.  Baker helped get us out the worst 2 year period we've had, broke a rookie record for TD passes despite only 13 starts.  Then came the wedding plans, commercials and other things that looked to be interfering with his original plan of attack for the lifelong dream.  Not only that, but the more teams saw him on film - the more they could prove he's not an elite talent especially objective fans (unlike myself when it comes to Baker).

    This year, here came an available Deshaun Watson with only 3 teams competing for his situation.  When we got right down to it, that turned into only 1 team willing to compete.  Looks like we're taking a step backward at first with a guy that once responded to every ounce of adversity Nick Saban and the best team in the country could throw at him. YES, that's only college football; but Alabama puts a lot of guys on NFL starting lineups.  Like Bernie Kosar once helped transcend the Miami Hurricanes into a National Champion over a Nebraska team they weren't supposed to beat - Watson took Clemson to a level where they could win Championships.  QBs that can transcend a major college football program to the elite - showcase the ability to overcome adversity.  I'm very glad the NFL intervention is making Watson get the counseling he needs for the clear head required to take this team where we need him to.  Meanwhile, I expect Baker to be Baker and bring some excitement and promise to Carolina after he loses to Cleveland.  The problem is I don't know how long he is wired to maintain it for a coaching staff that can't afford him to fail or be inconsistent. More so, he has to prove he can handle success by remembering what it took to get there and working on weaknesses. He should contact Drew Brees because that guy took 4 years to launch.

    Sorry for the length...

    @flugel said:

    Sorry for the length.

    I'll bet you say that to all the women.🙄

  • https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html

    Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension.

    Maybe this one?

    WSS 

  • https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html

    Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension.

    Maybe this one?

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html

    Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension.

    Maybe this one?

    WSS 

    He's a stone cold liar and a piece of human scum... I can't stand him... I hope him, Berry and Haslam all rot in hell together someday...

  • https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html

    Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension.

    WSS

  • https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html

    Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html

    Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension.

    WSS

    Does that mean his apology wasn’t real? ?