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Grossi on The State of the Browns as the Season Comes to a Thud

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  • OrionO Orion

    Dutch, I've watched countless snowy, windy Patriots games on TV with Brady at QB.  He was able to pass his team to victory every time.  

    @orion said:

    Dutch, I've watched countless snowy, windy Patriots games on TV with Brady at QB.  He was able to pass his team to victory every time.  

    Snowy doesn't necessarily mean wind chills of 15 below zero off the lake.  I remember 1 year the SD Chargers had the best passing offense in the NFL with Dan Fouts.  They went and played a playoff game at Cincy with wind chills well below zero; and their passing game flatlined because of it.  If you're old enough to have seen that game you know exactly what I'm talking about.

    When you think about the career of Aaron Rodgers, the only time he won a Super Bowl was when the Packers were a Wild Card team that won all their playoff games on the road.  I think the only chilly game they had to win was at Chicago in the NFC Championship Game against a very rattled Jay Cutler (who got injured before halftime and never returned to the game when a lot of people questioned his toughness).  

    NE is owned by Robert Kraft and the Browns are owned by Jimmy Haslam. Which guy do you trust to find the right leadership for his football team?  A lot of people forget Brady didn't even start as a rookie; but there was a great HC that understood what needed to go into his development process for success ahead.  Haslam doesn't have anything like this in place.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • FlugelF Flugel

    @orion said:

    Dutch, I've watched countless snowy, windy Patriots games on TV with Brady at QB.  He was able to pass his team to victory every time.  

    Snowy doesn't necessarily mean wind chills of 15 below zero off the lake.  I remember 1 year the SD Chargers had the best passing offense in the NFL with Dan Fouts.  They went and played a playoff game at Cincy with wind chills well below zero; and their passing game flatlined because of it.  If you're old enough to have seen that game you know exactly what I'm talking about.

    When you think about the career of Aaron Rodgers, the only time he won a Super Bowl was when the Packers were a Wild Card team that won all their playoff games on the road.  I think the only chilly game they had to win was at Chicago in the NFC Championship Game against a very rattled Jay Cutler (who got injured before halftime and never returned to the game when a lot of people questioned his toughness).  

    NE is owned by Robert Kraft and the Browns are owned by Jimmy Haslam. Which guy do you trust to find the right leadership for his football team?  A lot of people forget Brady didn't even start as a rookie; but there was a great HC that understood what needed to go into his development process for success ahead.  Haslam doesn't have anything like this in place.

    @flugel said:

    If you're old enough to have seen that game you know exactly what I'm talking about.

    I watched it on what they used to call the color tv.   And 2 huge doors mysteriously opened allowing wind to blow into the field whenever San Diego was on that end of the field.  

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  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    ShitMyPantski is a vagina. He is resting and collecting a fat paycheck. 31 teams know he has nothing to do with the Browns and when he goes looking for a job all 31 teams will see.that his hands were tied by a jackoff.

    ShitMyPantski won't be here for another contract.

    but he will be here next year,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,commas,,,,,,,,,,,,,just not sure which direction haslem will go to for another head coach ? he hasn't tried a collage coach yet

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    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    ShitMyPantski is a vagina. He is resting and collecting a fat paycheck. 31 teams know he has nothing to do with the Browns and when he goes looking for a job all 31 teams will see.that his hands were tied by a jackoff.

    ShitMyPantski won't be here for another contract.

    but he will be here next year,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,commas,,,,,,,,,,,,,just not sure which direction haslem will go to for another head coach ? he hasn't tried a collage coach yet

    @syd said:

    just not sure which direction haslem will go to for another head coach ?

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

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  • OrionO Orion

    @syd said:

    just not sure which direction haslem will go to for another head coach ?

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

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    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    @syd said:

    honestly

    ...just finished watching (and loudly listening) to Heroes.  Bowie and his band were capable of such incredible greatness....

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  • OrionO Orion

    @syd said:

    honestly

    ...just finished watching (and loudly listening) to Heroes.  Bowie and his band were capable of such incredible greatness....

    @orion said:

    ...just finished watching (and loudly listening) to Heroes.  Bowie and his band were capable of such incredible greatness....

    ya they were a great band saw him a few times on his seriously midnight tour and last time nine inch nails opened for him

  • sydS syd

    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    @syd said:

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

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  • OrionO Orion

    @syd said:

    just not sure which direction haslem will go to for another head coach ?

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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    @syd said:

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @dutch-oven said:

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    @flugel said:

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    At least they don't have the dummy Quarterback Whisperer around to totally screw him up.

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    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    @flugel said:

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @flugel said:

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

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    @flugel said:

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Exactly!  They know this, which was why I've been saying this for weeks that there's no chance Payton wants to come here.  Why would he walk his all his football credentials and resume to the edge of a plank for a guy like Depodesta who knows far less about an NFL passing game than he does?

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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    @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    Kevin Stefanski was interviewed two years running for a head coach job.

    Both interviews were with the Cleveland Browns. 

  • S SdBacker80

    @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    Agreed.  That being the case, 1 guy I could think of that would be worth bringing in for an interview (considering he has 2 QBs that were 1st round draft picks) is Clemson's Dabo Swinney.  He put Nick Saban and 4 consecutive #1 draft classes in check mate with Watson.  He also did it to an Ohio State team the week before. 

    That said, if he has to undergo a lobotomy so that Depodesta has more football knowledge - that'll be a hard no too.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • OrionO Orion

    @flugel said:

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    At least they don't have the dummy Quarterback Whisperer around to totally screw him up.

    @orion said:

    At least they don't have the dummy Quarterback Whisperer around to totally screw him up.

    True. I don't know whether to LMAO or cry like I did as a little feller watching the end of Old Yeller.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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