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Grossi on The State of the Browns as the Season Comes to a Thud

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  • @syd said:

    honestly

    ...just finished watching (and loudly listening) to Heroes.  Bowie and his band were capable of such incredible greatness....

    @orion said:

    ...just finished watching (and loudly listening) to Heroes.  Bowie and his band were capable of such incredible greatness....

    ya they were a great band saw him a few times on his seriously midnight tour and last time nine inch nails opened for him

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    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    @syd said:

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

  • @syd said:

    just not sure which direction haslem will go to for another head coach ?

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

  • @syd said:

    honestly it all depends on next year to see how they all work together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well see 

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And this way we can really confirm that 2020 was an aberration. 

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    @flugel said:

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    At least they don't have the dummy Quarterback Whisperer around to totally screw him up.

  • @orion said:

    From what we've seen, he'll want someone who'll do it his way...DePodesta's way.  Haslam likes it that way.  So, that right there limits your pool.  We have a pretty smart, articulate coach that seems to be able to align with Berry and cope with the system.  He might be the best fit for the situation.  I don't know how much better a coach Haslam and DePo could land...but they could sure fuck it up

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    @flugel said:

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

  • @flugel said:

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

  • @flugel said:

    Spot on.  That means they're not at all interested in Sean Payton for anyone thinking that far out of the box.

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Exactly!  They know this, which was why I've been saying this for weeks that there's no chance Payton wants to come here.  Why would he walk his all his football credentials and resume to the edge of a plank for a guy like Depodesta who knows far less about an NFL passing game than he does?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    Kevin Stefanski was interviewed two years running for a head coach job.

    Both interviews were with the Cleveland Browns. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And on flip side, there isn't a chance in hell Sean Payton would put up with Moneyball telling him how to coach. 

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yep!  Only younger and impressionable candidates 

    Agreed.  That being the case, 1 guy I could think of that would be worth bringing in for an interview (considering he has 2 QBs that were 1st round draft picks) is Clemson's Dabo Swinney.  He put Nick Saban and 4 consecutive #1 draft classes in check mate with Watson.  He also did it to an Ohio State team the week before. 

    That said, if he has to undergo a lobotomy so that Depodesta has more football knowledge - that'll be a hard no too.

  • @flugel said:

    If they turn Watson into a bad QB, I could finally see Haslam replacing Depodesta and Berry with Cheech and Chong.

    At least they don't have the dummy Quarterback Whisperer around to totally screw him up.

    @orion said:

    At least they don't have the dummy Quarterback Whisperer around to totally screw him up.

    True. I don't know whether to LMAO or cry like I did as a little feller watching the end of Old Yeller.