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  3. January 3 - BALLOT #3 now #13 goes on ..... McCarthy headed for another big LOSS.

January 3 - BALLOT #3 now #13 goes on ..... McCarthy headed for another big  LOSS.

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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    BALLOTT  #3  LOSS for McCarthy,  House adjourned until noon Wednesday.   No apparent plan in place.  Another loss for DJT backed candidates. 

    Fast Facts

    • The House GOP Conference met at 9:30 a.m. ET to hear McCarthy’s final appeal.

    • McCarthy needs 218 votes to become speaker. Republicans will seat 222 lawmakers, so McCarthy can leave only four GOP minds unchanged.

    • McCarthy failed to secure the necessary 218 votes to be the next House speaker in the first vote.

    • The House of Representatives leadership election went to a second ballot for the first time since 1923 after no candidate secured the 218 votes necessary to be elected House speaker.

    House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy failed to reach 218 votes in the third round of voting for House speaker on Tuesday, and watched Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio pick one vote.

    McCarthy won 202 votes to Jordan’s 20 votes. That was one less for McCarthy and one more for Jordan, thanks in part to Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla., who flipped to Jordan after having voted for McCarty in the first two votes.

    Democrat Hakeem Jeffries of New York won 212 votes again, also short of the 218 needed to win the gavel.

    The slight increase for Jordan is part of the plan by members of the House Freedom Caucus, who are hoping to create the appearance of eroding support for McCarthy and boost momentum for Jordan.

    The result set up required fourth vote in the House, which is likely once more to feature McCarthy and Jordan as the only two choices for speaker from the GOP side. Voting will continue until one candidate reaches a clear majority of voting members.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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      I get the dissenter's complaints, but voting against McCarthy is stupid -

      coward McConnell set the stage for anger - he won't fight for what's right,

      he'll go along the vicious corrupt left/dems.

         McCarthy needs to be a hell of a lot tougher a fighter than what he has shown in the past.

      but voting against him is stupid. They have made their point.

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        https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2023/01/03/matt-gaetzs-words-about-kevin-mccarthy-defines-the-current-state-of-the-republican-party-n682820

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          @bob806 said:

          They don't want to accomplish a thing. Totally out-of-touch with the middle class, influenced by super PACs.

          Send 'em a message this November, get a 3rd party President elected.

          IT's about time you started talking real bad stuff about the democrats.... lol

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          @calfoxwc said:

          IT's about time you started talking real bad stuff about the democrats.... lol

          Lol...you have a point. Although I did rip up my D card due to a number of issues that pissed me off. 

          Yeah it's a real shame what's happening especially at the federal level.  Biden & crew seem more willing to help foreign nations than US taxpayers. Republicans win the House and 19 or 20 Rs are holding their own party hostage. 

          I don't know what is causing all this dysfunction, but my guess is money. I actually am watching Fox News now (crazy, I know, but I had to turn MSNBC off it was worse), and Lauren Bobert explained why this McCarthy was a "no Vote."

          In general, it's such a mess. I don't know how hardcore Ds & Rs can put up with their own parties anymore.

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            I get the dissenter's complaints, but voting against McCarthy is stupid -

            coward McConnell set the stage for anger - he won't fight for what's right,

            he'll go along the vicious corrupt left/dems.

               McCarthy needs to be a hell of a lot tougher a fighter than what he has shown in the past.

            but voting against him is stupid. They have made their point.

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            @calfoxwc said:

            I get the dissenter's complaints, but voting against McCarthy is stupid -

            coward McConnell set the stage for anger - he won't fight for what's right,

            he'll go along the vicious corrupt left/dems.

               McCarthy needs to be a hell of a lot tougher a fighter than what he has shown in the past.

            but voting against him is stupid. They have made their point.

            This just looks like the GOP can't get it's   "House "  in order,  no Speaker plan, a lot of infighting never good.   They won the House   -but-   can't agree on a Speaker to replace Nancy Pelosi how embarrassing. 

             I wish for the county's sake that   both   parties could and would become more civilized and professional about doing the nation's business. 

            This is history in the making, have your kids, grandkids and others pay attention to what is going on. 

            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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              OTH, the likes of John Boehner, Paul Ryan loom in history as being lily livered cowards. McConnell fits right in with that, too.

                McCarthy is a lot like them, sometimes. If he were speaker, he'd be like them, maybe.

              They don't care about doing what is right and honorable - they care to do nothing out of fear of losing their position, and getting the leftwing mafia-like "dem" party on their case.

              or the fbi. etc etc. fake witnesses who lie, fake prosecutions with no evidence, slurring their families....... all the way to reps in the WH and the Supreme Court.

                they play a very dangerous, vicious game.

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                I get the dissenter's complaints, but voting against McCarthy is stupid -

                coward McConnell set the stage for anger - he won't fight for what's right,

                he'll go along the vicious corrupt left/dems.

                   McCarthy needs to be a hell of a lot tougher a fighter than what he has shown in the past.

                but voting against him is stupid. They have made their point.

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                @calfoxwc said:

                I get the dissenter's complaints, but voting against McCarthy is stupid -

                coward McConnell set the stage for anger - he won't fight for what's right,

                he'll go along the vicious corrupt left/dems.

                   McCarthy needs to be a hell of a lot tougher a fighter than what he has shown in the past.

                but voting against him is stupid. They have made their point.

                According to the article you posted, McCarty is a demonrat kiss ass, or as they put it, a "Demonrat lite". 

                The GOP is all flash and noise, but it doesn’t have the willingness to fight meaningfully against a Democrat Party that has become unquestioningly radicalized. McCarthy is, for all intents and purposes, a perfect reflection of the Republican Party as Gaetz described.

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                  @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                  Not really funny.   It shows what a circus this congress is.  They can't accomplish a fucking thing.

                  They don't want to accomplish a thing. Totally out-of-touch with the middle class, influenced by super PACs.

                  Send 'em a message this November, get a 3rd party President elected.

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                  @bob806 said:

                  They don't want to accomplish a thing. Totally out-of-touch with the middle class, influenced by super PACs.

                  Send 'em a message this November, get a 3rd party President elected.

                  I would send money to Bernie Sanders if he ran as a third party candidate.

                  Sanders Cortez would be a ticket that would get the socialists off the fence.

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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    I get the dissenter's complaints, but voting against McCarthy is stupid -

                    coward McConnell set the stage for anger - he won't fight for what's right,

                    he'll go along the vicious corrupt left/dems.

                       McCarthy needs to be a hell of a lot tougher a fighter than what he has shown in the past.

                    but voting against him is stupid. They have made their point.

                    According to the article you posted, McCarty is a demonrat kiss ass, or as they put it, a "Demonrat lite". 

                    The GOP is all flash and noise, but it doesn’t have the willingness to fight meaningfully against a Democrat Party that has become unquestioningly radicalized. McCarthy is, for all intents and purposes, a perfect reflection of the Republican Party as Gaetz described.

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                    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                    @fy56 said:

                    According to the article you posted, McCarty is a demonrat kiss ass, or as they put it, a "Demonrat lite". 

                    The GOP is all flash and noise, but it doesn’t have the willingness to fight meaningfully against a Democrat Party that has become unquestioningly radicalized. McCarthy is, for all intents and purposes, a perfect reflection of the Republican Party as Gaetz described.

                    So the 19 or 20 Freedom Caucus Rs aren't radicalized? They've got some crazy demands. 

                    It will probably never happen due to the outlandish money both parties have, but the nation should consider non-partisan primaries at the very least. Maybe that could weed out the extremists on both sides...they are the ones holding DC & the nation hostage.

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                      @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                      Not really funny.   It shows what a circus this party is.  They can't accomplish a fucking thing.

                      FIFY

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                      FIFY

                      No you didn't.

                      BTW...when are you going to own up to your lies?

                      Or are you just going to move on and try to defend your next one?

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                        @fy56 said:

                        According to the article you posted, McCarty is a demonrat kiss ass, or as they put it, a "Demonrat lite". 

                        The GOP is all flash and noise, but it doesn’t have the willingness to fight meaningfully against a Democrat Party that has become unquestioningly radicalized. McCarthy is, for all intents and purposes, a perfect reflection of the Republican Party as Gaetz described.

                        So the 19 or 20 Freedom Caucus Rs aren't radicalized? They've got some crazy demands. 

                        It will probably never happen due to the outlandish money both parties have, but the nation should consider non-partisan primaries at the very least. Maybe that could weed out the extremists on both sides...they are the ones holding DC & the nation hostage.

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                        @bob806 said:

                        So the 19 or 20 Freedom Caucus Rs aren't radicalized? They've got some crazy demands. 

                        It will probably never happen due to the outlandish money both parties have, but the nation should consider non-partisan primaries at the very least. Maybe that could weed out the extremists on both sides...they are the ones holding DC & the nation hostage.

                        No they are not. Not even close. What was once in the middle has gone left. Adhering to basic conservative principles is now what you people call "radical".

                        What position of theirs would you consider radical? Being anti baby killer? Securing the border?

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                          @bob806 said:

                          So the 19 or 20 Freedom Caucus Rs aren't radicalized? They've got some crazy demands. 

                          It will probably never happen due to the outlandish money both parties have, but the nation should consider non-partisan primaries at the very least. Maybe that could weed out the extremists on both sides...they are the ones holding DC & the nation hostage.

                          No they are not. Not even close. What was once in the middle has gone left. Adhering to basic conservative principles is now what you people call "radical".

                          What position of theirs would you consider radical? Being anti baby killer? Securing the border?

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                          Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                          @fy56 said:

                          No they are not. Not even close. What was once in the middle has gone left. Adhering to basic conservative principles is now what you people call "radical".

                          What position of theirs would you consider radical? Being anti baby killer? Securing the border?

                          The "motion to vacate" specifically. Totally unreasonable for a leader to agree to.

                          And don't lump me into "you people," you don't even know me.

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                            DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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                            The so called 'Freedom Cauc' only want's special privileges.  They are already fucking things up with their stupid fucking games.  

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                              @fy56 said:

                              According to the article you posted, McCarty is a demonrat kiss ass, or as they put it, a "Demonrat lite". 

                              The GOP is all flash and noise, but it doesn’t have the willingness to fight meaningfully against a Democrat Party that has become unquestioningly radicalized. McCarthy is, for all intents and purposes, a perfect reflection of the Republican Party as Gaetz described.

                              So the 19 or 20 Freedom Caucus Rs aren't radicalized? They've got some crazy demands. 

                              It will probably never happen due to the outlandish money both parties have, but the nation should consider non-partisan primaries at the very least. Maybe that could weed out the extremists on both sides...they are the ones holding DC & the nation hostage.

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                              cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                              @bob806 said:

                              So the 19 or 20 Freedom Caucus Rs aren't radicalized? They've got some crazy demands. 

                              It will probably never happen due to the outlandish money both parties have, but the nation should consider non-partisan primaries at the very least. Maybe that could weed out the extremists on both sides...they are the ones holding DC & the nation hostage.

                              When you gerrymander districts where one party can't lose, you get far right and far left people in DC.

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                                The so called 'Freedom Cauc' only want's special privileges.  They are already fucking things up with their stupid fucking games.  

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                                @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                The so called 'Freedom Cauc' only want's special privileges.  They are already fucking things up with their stupid fucking games.  

                                totally wrong again.

                                https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-top-committee-chairs-in-a-mccarthy-house-are-the-worst-of-globalists

                                I thought mccarthy would get tough, but he won't. So, I change my mind and say to vote AGAINST mccarthy.

                                I'm sick of the cowards and the rinos.

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                  The so called 'Freedom Cauc' only want's special privileges.  They are already fucking things up with their stupid fucking games.  

                                  totally wrong again.

                                  https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-top-committee-chairs-in-a-mccarthy-house-are-the-worst-of-globalists

                                  I thought mccarthy would get tough, but he won't. So, I change my mind and say to vote AGAINST mccarthy.

                                  I'm sick of the cowards and the rinos.

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                                  DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  totally wrong again.

                                  https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-top-committee-chairs-in-a-mccarthy-house-are-the-worst-of-globalists

                                  I thought mccarthy would get tough, but he won't. So, I change my mind and say to vote AGAINST mccarthy.

                                  I'm sick of the cowards and the rinos.

                                  It's dummies like you that stall any progress.

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                                    hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                                    McCarthy is compromised.  
                                    Nothing patriotic about him.

                                    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                                      and i think McCarthy has some sway there

                                      https://twitter.com/JKash000/status/1610749482320203785?s=20&t=sUG-xgxEdrbqvFyy1C3QtA

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                                        I can’t wait for the greater good speech.  
                                         

                                        flush these turds 

                                        guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                                          Boebert came across as unhinged tonight.

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