2023 Off-Season Free Agent moves/signings

[tiamat63]

@korsou-dawg said:

Hear what you are saying about GNII. In a fully objective world, Ward would probably be used like he was. In the real world, we have pecking orders, and Ward is clearly seen as one of our top guys. He is starting on the outside. 

That makes Greg a talented back-up. If you can flip that into a starting WR of similar talent and age, without adding too much... I believe the FO pulls the trigger, and I would too. 

 Before Talib showed up, Chris Harris was the Broncos best CB.  Their best DB by far, even though he primarily drew assignments in the slot for teams that wanted to emphasize targeting that receiver.  Against Julian Edelman and the Pats was a huge matchup where he made Eds almost a non factor.  Another great example was the Hawks trying to involve Doug Baldwin,  Harris drawing that matchup and winning reps. 

 Pecking order be damned, I'm playing my corners in the most favorable matchups.  If Ward draws better against a team with heavy 11 personnel and works routes from the slot, then that is where he's going. The  coaching speak/think of "my best play outside" is outdated.  One of the few things about Woods I won't miss. 

 And in an NFL where you spend 60+% of your time in nickel and dime, that means your 3rd corner is pretty much a starter. Respectfully, 'backup' is hardly the word I would use bubs. 

 Since the current front office has taken over, they've targeted DBs with height and wingspan -Newsie, Green, Emerson, Faulk... All 6'1+ corners.    I genuinely believe, if not for the albatross contract Ward has, there would be talk of trade interest. 

[TypicalBrowns50]

Elijah Moore. For a second, and we get a third at 74.

nice deal my Berry

been a solid FA for him. I’m excited. Team is getting balanced on both sides of the ball.

[tiamat63]

7.1 YPT. 

If you wanted a speed merchant who works the short to intermediate game, Moore appears to be that "classic" slot receiver. 

[Orion]

I'd rather not lose any more corners.

The Browns have landed their next big addition to their offense.

About two hours after news of the trade first broke, the Browns officially announced Wednesday that they have acquired receiver Elijah Moore from the New York Jets, along with the Jets' third-round pick, No. 74. New York will receive the Browns' second-round pick, No 42.

Year	Team	REC	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD	ATT	YDS	AVG
2022	Jets	37	446	12.1	42	1	5	5	1.0
2021	Jets	43	538	12.5	62	5	5	54	10.8
Career		80	984	12.3	62	6	10	59	5.9

[gumby73]

@gumby73 said:

this feels like, if berry announced a move before Wednesday? It would piss off owners,NFL and Media..

F'em Berry! Load this squad up !?Go Browns!

        YES !  We had some doubts...

Me included

JOB WELL DONE ANDREW BERRY !  

Jack Duffin

 

What did Elijah Moore cost the #Browns?

 

Using the Fitzgerald-Spielberger Trade Chart (Analytics)

#42 - 1106

#74 - 819 So effectively given up pick 211 for Moore

 

Using Jimmy Johnson Trade Chart

#42 - 480

#74 - 220 So effectively given up pick 66

 

Great value by AB 

[nickers]

@gumby73 said:

        YES !  We had some doubts...

Me included

JOB WELL DONE ANDREW BERRY !  

Sorry but winning the off season doesn't excite me much...

[gumby73]

@nickers said:

Sorry but winning the off season doesn't excite me much...

yes nick, we know nickers..  

but, passing on youth & not drafting 6-8 more was a.. win/win(FA) for Andrew Berry 

[Dutch Oven]

@nickers said:

Sorry but winning the off season doesn't excite me much...

Being a miserable twat, on the other hand... 

[nickers]

@gumby73 said:

yes nick, we know nickers..  

but, passing on youth & not drafting 6-8 more was a.. win/win(FA) for Andrew Berry 

What does he win?.. A pat on the patoot?.. Woweeee!... "Hey look at my shiny new bicycle everybody" Meh.... Time keeps on tickin'....

[gumby73]

@nickers said:

Time keeps on tickin'....

put 5-6 draftees on this team starting at pick #40.. Where ya gonna put'em & who ya cutting? 

time, said to win now, and not do it sitting on the clock ..

Aren't you tired of watching Haslam fire everybody but himself?

[syd]

@nickers said:

Sorry but winning the off season doesn't excite me much...

but losing it does ?

[nickers]

@gumby73 said:

put 5-6 draftees on this team starting at pick #40.. Where ya gonna put'em & who ya cutting? 

time, said to win now, and not do it sitting on the clock ..

Aren't you tired of watching Haslam fire everybody but himself?

As do bears shit in da woods!

[syd]

@gumby73 said:

yes nick, we know nickers..  

but, passing on youth & not drafting 6-8 more was a.. win/win(FA) for Andrew Berry 

and hopefully we can trade some of those picks for next years draft unless I mean unless there is someone we will package picks up for ? I dunno I would rather get extra picks for next years draft

[gumby73]

@nickers said:

 da woods!

A Browns coach finally gets to put a decent staff together, not waiting on any playoff teams, while other coaches come off the hiring list...

Not this time...

It's poker night ! Dealing starts at 9pm.. See ya boyz.. Go Browns !

[Orion]

@gumby73 said:

Using Jimmy Johnson Trade Chart

#42 - 480

#74 - 220 So effectively given up pick 66

This coincides with Draftek.  Which means his value is 3rd pick in the 3rd round.  (Jets drafted him with pick 34)

I look at it this way, we gave up pick #42 for this guy.  His stats with the Jets aren't great or anything...he's 5' 10" @ 178 lb., which is smurf-like.  (he's a Brown now, so he's Elf-like)  He caught 56% of his targets with the Jets.  I dunno...I'm not sure that Elijah is our WR savior.  I'm crossing my fingers.

Now where does this leave us at LB'er?   Pick 74?  

[Vambo]

Linebacker Anthony Walker re-signs with Browns

https://sports.yahoo.com/linebacker-anthony-walker-signs-browns-040104631.html++

Jaguars signing former Browns RB D'Ernest Johnson to one-year contract

https://www.nfl.com/news/jaguars-signing-former-browns-rb-d-ernest-johnson-to-one-year-contract

[Korsou Dawg]

@tiamat63 very fair point about the prevalence of nickle and dime sets. 

@orion said:

This coincides with Draftek.  Which means his value is 3rd pick in the 3rd round.  (Jets drafted him with pick 34)

I look at it this way, we gave up pick #42 for this guy.  His stats with the Jets aren't great or anything...he's 5' 10" @ 178 lb., which is smurf-like.  (he's a Brown now, so he's Elf-like)  He caught 56% of his targets with the Jets.  I dunno...I'm not sure that Elijah is our WR savior.  I'm crossing my fingers.

Now where does this leave us at LB'er?   Pick 74?  

I'm with you on this one. Internet commentators and analytics guys are going nuts about the value of this trade. And while I have preached the gospel of value going into this off-season, I'm struggling to get any more than lukewarm about this trade. 

Moore seems like your typical slot/ speed guy. It seems that DPJ will be our WR2 on the outside for one more season, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Where does that leave Bell, who I am higher on most of the comments I have seen on here? He has a similar height and build as DPJ, so maybe he might be getting reps on the outside as well? 

[gumby73]

Expected nothing less..

Outside media markets, only want to talk about this trade from the Jets side ?.. Packers still not budging that cap number

In division..

Lamar wants out.. not a team wants to do what the Ravens could have done in years past.

Bengals & Stoolers still have other OL issues.

AFCN sleeping giant ?   ?   

[syd]

[Vambo]

Marquise Goodwin agrees to one-year deal with Browns

Posted by Myles Simmons on March 24, 2023, 2:24 PM EDT

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/24/marquise-goodwin-agrees-to-one-year-deal-with-browns/

 

Cleveland has reached a one-year agreement with Marquise Goodwin, according to multiple reports.

Goodwin, 32, spent last season with the Seahawks. He caught 27 passes for 387 yards with four touchdowns in 13 games with two starts.

A third-round pick in the 2013 draft, Goodwin spent his first four seasons with Buffalo before signing with the 49ers in free agency in 2017. That was his best season, as he started all 16 games for San Francisco and caught 56 passes for 962 yards with a pair of touchdowns.

Though Cleveland had Amari Cooper and Donovan Peoples-Jones under contract at receiver, the club needed some more depth at the position. Now the Browns have added Moore and Goodwin this week to work with quarterback Deshaun Watson.

The Browns also have eight picks in the 2023 draft, starting with No. 74 overall in the third round.