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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

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      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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      No article anywhere..

      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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        No article anywhere..

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        @nickers said:

        No article anywhere..

        Don't know why.

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          KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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          We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

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            We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

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            @kvoethe said:

            We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

             Actually there are all over the map.

            https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

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              @kvoethe said:

              We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

               Actually there are all over the map.

              https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @texasag1969 said:

               Actually there are all over the map.

              https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

              Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

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                @texasag1969 said:

                 Actually there are all over the map.

                https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

                Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

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                KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                @dutch-oven said:

                Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

                Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

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                  We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

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                  @kvoethe said:

                  We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

                  LOL. Yep - draft grades at this point, though, are nonsense. If teams draft great, and the players do great, it was a great draft. Trouble is, what often looks like an "A" can turn out to be a "D" or even an "F".

                     So many years, so many high hopes. So many picks that seemed like great picks, turn out to be crap picks. Basically, it's the big step up to the pros that divides the loser draftees who don't love the game, etc, from the guys drafted who love the game, have the work ethic to prove it by becoming the best they can be.

                    The Browns' problem - seems to me - has been they didn't take love for the game into consideration - they drafted on college ratings and physical profiles - like flips of a coin with their hits/misses. Look at the history:

                  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/draft.htm

                  braylon edwards, for just one example. Should have been a star wr every year. but his head was screwed on wrong.

                  Time will tell the actual grade. I thought the Browns drafted a Tyreek Hill. But he was only a track star who didn't love football. Just wasn't a football player. etc etc.

                      So, outside of the fact that the Browns STUPIDLY don't have their first round pick AGAIN next year - and traded their second round pick away (the trade itself was a good one) - maybe, just maybe, the Browns had an "A" draft if they didn't get any duds. TIme will tell the grades.

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

                    Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @kvoethe said:

                    Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

                    You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

                    But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

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                      @kvoethe said:

                      Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

                      You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

                      But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

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                      KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by Kvoethe
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

                      But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

                      Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

                      30 minutes...

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                        KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                        Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji...

                        Left handed right?  Other one on little dutch?

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                          Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji...

                          Left handed right?  Other one on little dutch?

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @kvoethe said:

                          Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji...

                          Left handed right?  Other one on little dutch?

                          It's always fun to watch when a troll suddenly is all in his feelings. 

                          Maybe next time! ?

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                            OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                            Reason for concern?

                            Hmm....I'm not really sure.   It's voluntary...it's just working out....I guess.....

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

                              But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

                              Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

                              30 minutes...

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                              nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
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                              @kvoethe said:

                              Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

                              30 minutes...

                              He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

                              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                                @kvoethe said:

                                Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

                                30 minutes...

                                He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                @nickers said:

                                He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

                                nickers has been very cranky this weekend.

                                I'm guessing that hot mom of his grounded him again. 

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                                  KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                                  4 minutes Nickers.  He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs.  

                                  Starting stalking timer...

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                                    I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

                                    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

                                    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

                                    the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

                                      https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

                                      the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

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                                      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                      @syd said:

                                      the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

                                      I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

                                      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                                        @syd said:

                                        the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

                                        I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

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                                        @nickers said:

                                        I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

                                        you still need a run game and Nick is the best around and i am sure he want's that ring 

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                                          4 minutes Nickers.  He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs.  

                                          Starting stalking timer...

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                                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                          @kvoethe said:

                                          4 minutes Nickers.  He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs.  

                                          Starting stalking timer...

                                          Without doubt, the two most humorous things about trolls are:

                                          1. How incredibly easy it is to troll a troll, and...

                                          2. How incredibly pissed off trolls get when this happens. ?

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