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  • @kvoethe said:

    We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

     Actually there are all over the map.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

    @texasag1969 said:

     Actually there are all over the map.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

    Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

  • @texasag1969 said:

     Actually there are all over the map.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying

    Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

    Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

  • We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

    @kvoethe said:

    We got a D draft grade!!  Wooooo!!  Bringin the pain!!

    LOL. Yep - draft grades at this point, though, are nonsense. If teams draft great, and the players do great, it was a great draft. Trouble is, what often looks like an "A" can turn out to be a "D" or even an "F".

       So many years, so many high hopes. So many picks that seemed like great picks, turn out to be crap picks. Basically, it's the big step up to the pros that divides the loser draftees who don't love the game, etc, from the guys drafted who love the game, have the work ethic to prove it by becoming the best they can be.

      The Browns' problem - seems to me - has been they didn't take love for the game into consideration - they drafted on college ratings and physical profiles - like flips of a coin with their hits/misses. Look at the history:

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/draft.htm

    braylon edwards, for just one example. Should have been a star wr every year. but his head was screwed on wrong.

    Time will tell the actual grade. I thought the Browns drafted a Tyreek Hill. But he was only a track star who didn't love football. Just wasn't a football player. etc etc.

        So, outside of the fact that the Browns STUPIDLY don't have their first round pick AGAIN next year - and traded their second round pick away (the trade itself was a good one) - maybe, just maybe, the Browns had an "A" draft if they didn't get any duds. TIme will tell the grades.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. ? 

    Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

    @kvoethe said:

    Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

    You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

    But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker.

    You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

    But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

    But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

    Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

    30 minutes...

  • Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji...

    Left handed right?  Other one on little dutch?

  • Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji...

    Left handed right?  Other one on little dutch?

    @kvoethe said:

    Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji...

    Left handed right?  Other one on little dutch?

    It's always fun to watch when a troll suddenly is all in his feelings. 

    Maybe next time! ?

  • Reason for concern?

    Hmm....I'm not really sure.   It's voluntary...it's just working out....I guess.....

  • @dutch-oven said:

    You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll.

    But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! ? With some luck, nickers will too! 

    Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

    30 minutes...

    @kvoethe said:

    Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

    30 minutes...

    He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

  • @kvoethe said:

    Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

    30 minutes...

    He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

    @nickers said:

    He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

    nickers has been very cranky this weekend.

    I'm guessing that hot mom of his grounded him again. 

  • 4 minutes Nickers.  He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs.  

    Starting stalking timer...

  • I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

    @westside-steve said:

    I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

    the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

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    @westside-steve said:

    I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku

    the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

    @syd said:

    the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

    I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

  • @syd said:

    the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on

    I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

    @nickers said:

    I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

    you still need a run game and Nick is the best around and i am sure he want's that ring 

  • 4 minutes Nickers.  He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs.  

    Starting stalking timer...

    @kvoethe said:

    4 minutes Nickers.  He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs.  

    Starting stalking timer...

    Without doubt, the two most humorous things about trolls are:

    1. How incredibly easy it is to troll a troll, and...

    2. How incredibly pissed off trolls get when this happens. ?

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him...

    you still need a run game and Nick is the best around and i am sure he want's that ring 

    @syd said:

    you still need a run game

    As long as the run is successful I'm sure we will use it.  Becoming a better, more effective and more respected passing team would not hurt Nick's YPC.  

  • @kvoethe said:

    Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage

    30 minutes...

    He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

    @nickers said:

    He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up!

    actually i believe that award go's to you nickers

  • @syd said:

    you still need a run game

    As long as the run is successful I'm sure we will use it.  Becoming a better, more effective and more respected passing team would not hurt Nick's YPC.  

    @orion said:

    As long as the run is successful I'm sure we will use it.  Becoming a better, more effective and more respected passing team would not hurt Nick's YPC.  

    I agree it will not and I am also looking forward to see what  Ford brings to the game

  • sydS syd

    @orion said:

    As long as the run is successful I'm sure we will use it.  Becoming a better, more effective and more respected passing team would not hurt Nick's YPC.  

    I agree it will not and I am also looking forward to see what  Ford brings to the game

    @syd said:

    I agree it will not and I am also looking forward to see what  Ford brings to the game

    Yeah, it was a small sample size, but the kid looked good on kickoff returns at the end of the season.

    And I think he could - possibly easily - be an upgrade over what Hunt brought the team, especially as the season wore on. 

  • @syd said:

    I agree it will not and I am also looking forward to see what  Ford brings to the game

    Yeah, it was a small sample size, but the kid looked good on kickoff returns at the end of the season.

    And I think he could - possibly easily - be an upgrade over what Hunt brought the team, especially as the season wore on. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Yeah, it was a small sample size, but the kid looked good on kickoff returns at the end of the season.

    And I think he could - possibly easily - be an upgrade over what Hunt brought the team, especially as the season wore on. 

    ya it sucks about Hunt Damn he was just a angry back (i loved the guy) but there is just so much in the tank and his ran out it seams 

    #34 I hope is the next man up