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  • @mld-woody said:

    Let's just leave this here before this thread completely deteriorates...

    While keeping in mind the usual offenders. You two know who you are.

    @fy56 said:

    While keeping in mind the usual offenders. You two know who you are.

    don't forget texie - another one of the thread screwer-uppers.

  • Uh oh.... TattleCal has made an appearance! ?

  • Uh oh.... TattleCal has made an appearance! ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Uh oh.... TattleCal has made an appearance! ?

    Yeah, I saw the cheap shot he took at Aggies. And isn't there another guy that needed to change his screen name at least once already in here trying to instigate drama?  

    While we didn't add anyone that dominates like Aaron Donald -I DO think the Browns made a great effort this offseason to improve the Defensive Line.  I look at all the $$$$$$ Buffalo threw at 1 player (Von Miller) and as soon as he went on IR their hopes of succeeding in the playoffs died.  Cincy decimated that defense.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Uh oh.... TattleCal has made an appearance! ?

    Yeah, I saw the cheap shot he took at Aggies. And isn't there another guy that needed to change his screen name at least once already in here trying to instigate drama?  

    While we didn't add anyone that dominates like Aaron Donald -I DO think the Browns made a great effort this offseason to improve the Defensive Line.  I look at all the $$$$$$ Buffalo threw at 1 player (Von Miller) and as soon as he went on IR their hopes of succeeding in the playoffs died.  Cincy decimated that defense.

    @flugel said:

    Yeah, I saw the cheap shot he took at Aggies. And isn't there another guy that needed to change his screen name at least once already in here trying to instigate drama?  

    While we didn't add anyone that dominates like Aaron Donald -I DO think the Browns made a great effort this offseason to improve the Defensive Line.  I look at all the $$$$$$ Buffalo threw at 1 player (Von Miller) and as soon as he went on IR their hopes of succeeding in the playoffs died.  Cincy decimated that defense.

    His clique is in full force. ?

    So on paper, the Browns seem to have done a helluva job addressing the DLine, which all of us were praying for. Schwartz is an upgrade as DC.

    But damn it Flugs, I just can't shake the pessimism going into the season. I've been burned so many times. I mean, I'm excited we are two months out, but I just can't bring myself to think this team is winning 10 or more games. I think the Browns have broke me. ?

  • @fy56 said:

    While keeping in mind the usual offenders. You two know who you are.

    don't forget texie - another one of the thread screwer-uppers.

    @calfoxwc said:

    don't forget texie - another one of the thread screwer-uppers.

    fuck cal thought your gonna keep it to football here,guess you just can't help yourself 

  • anyway, if we were going to get anyone from the rams I would rather get cooper kupp

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    @calfoxwc said:

    don't forget texie - another one of the thread screwer-uppers.

    fuck cal thought your gonna keep it to football here,guess you just can't help yourself 

    @syd said:

    fuck cal thought your gonna keep it to football here,guess you just can't help yourself 

    Yes, it's just another example of Cal bringing one of his lingering poli board hostilities into the football board.  Aggies only talks football in here. 

    Speaking of football, the Hall of Fame Game the Browns will be playing in is less than a month away.   It'll be fun to what some of the newcomers and draftees look like.

  • @flugel said:

    Yeah, I saw the cheap shot he took at Aggies. And isn't there another guy that needed to change his screen name at least once already in here trying to instigate drama?  

    While we didn't add anyone that dominates like Aaron Donald -I DO think the Browns made a great effort this offseason to improve the Defensive Line.  I look at all the $$$$$$ Buffalo threw at 1 player (Von Miller) and as soon as he went on IR their hopes of succeeding in the playoffs died.  Cincy decimated that defense.

    His clique is in full force. ?

    So on paper, the Browns seem to have done a helluva job addressing the DLine, which all of us were praying for. Schwartz is an upgrade as DC.

    But damn it Flugs, I just can't shake the pessimism going into the season. I've been burned so many times. I mean, I'm excited we are two months out, but I just can't bring myself to think this team is winning 10 or more games. I think the Browns have broke me. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    His clique is in full force. ?

    So on paper, the Browns seem to have done a helluva job addressing the DLine, which all of us were praying for. Schwartz is an upgrade as DC.

    But damn it Flugs, I just can't shake the pessimism going into the season. I've been burned so many times. I mean, I'm excited we are two months out, but I just can't bring myself to think this team is winning 10 or more games. I think the Browns have broke me. ?

    Our history somewhat reminds us to align our thinking with a "I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed."  BUT, let's face it - we wouldn't watch every game they play if we really thought they weren't capable of winning more than the coin toss.  Reality is, the Browns were 11-5 in 2020 and 9-8 in 2021.  If the Browns didn't neglect the IDL/DT so much last year - they probably wouldn't have lost 3-4 LBers to IR; while they probably would have beaten Atlanta.  They might have also beaten the Jets instead of themselves.  Going into that 2020 season, I was most worried our LBer Corps. 11 wins later plus a playoff W - they never prevented this team from winning.

    In short, a bad football team in Cleveland today is no longer the hopeless 1-31 football team it used to be.  It's now a 9-8 or a 7-10 football team that did an impressive job of addressing the weaknesses. Like you,  I wish I knew what it will translate to in terms of wins and losses against a brutal schedule.  We'll have guys coming off the edge like Myles Garrett, Za'Darius Smith, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Isaiah McGuire and possibly a more experienced version of Alex Wright or Isaiah Thomas. Adding Tomlinson and Ika to DT and other veterans to compete with Winfrey and Elliott for starting jobs and/or reps in the active rotation removes a lot of the free space and forfeiture.  All this up front only helps the LBers.  Meatball on spaghetti, Schwartz is the DC in charge of all the sic em, sock em and sack em.  I think this helps our enthusiasm as fans quite a bit.

  • @fy56 said:

    While keeping in mind the usual offenders. You two know who you are.

    don't forget texie - another one of the thread screwer-uppers.

    @calfoxwc said:

    don't forget texie - another one of the thread screwer-uppers.

    You want to try another cowardly fishing expedition calamine cal? Your old ones are getting boringly bad.??

  • @fy56 said:

    We're among the top 3 rumors!

    Aaron Donald Trade Rumors: Potential Landing Sports (2023) (wisportsheroics.com)

    I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own...  What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..

  • @fy56 said:

    We're among the top 3 rumors!

    Aaron Donald Trade Rumors: Potential Landing Sports (2023) (wisportsheroics.com)

    I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own...  What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..

    @nickers said:

    I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own...  What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

  • @nickers said:

    I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own...  What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    @flugel said:

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...

  • @flugel said:

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...

    @nickers said:

    . I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe

    I love Chubb but i would for a  Herschel Walker kinda trade 

    @nickers said:

    If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.

    he is a lock down corner  on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)

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    @nickers said:

    . I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe

    I love Chubb but i would for a  Herschel Walker kinda trade 

    @nickers said:

    If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.

    he is a lock down corner  on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)

    @syd said:

    I love Chubb but i would for a  Herschel Walker kinda trade 

    he is a lock down corner  on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)

    Hes never available when you really need him.. Fuck Ward...

  • @nickers said:

    I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own...  What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    @flugel said:

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.

    They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.

  • @flugel said:

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...

    @nickers said:

    Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...

    LOL "Hospital Ward".

    Speaking of hospital wards...I don't think Clowney ever played a full season in his career. Glad he got the pink slip.

  • @nickers said:

    Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...

    LOL "Hospital Ward".

    Speaking of hospital wards...I don't think Clowney ever played a full season in his career. Glad he got the pink slip.

    @fy56 said:

    LOL "Hospital Ward".

    Speaking of hospital wards...I don't think Clowney ever played a full season in his career. Glad he got the pink slip.

    Yup!

  • @flugel said:

    Nice job with that Nicks!  Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.  

    I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.

    They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.

    @fy56 said:

    I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.

    They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.

    Good point about these days!  Aside from your points above - they also haven't had the same type of Offensive Line they used to run the ball extremely well behind or protect the passer with. I was talking/thinking the 70s through about their last Super Bowl appearance vrs GB in 2011.  In that span, they had a Super Bowl record of 6-1 with 2 QBs they drafted. They've always set the tone from the top with a philosophy of who they are; and they drafted accordingly. I think they're on the 3rd generation of Rooney today and the era has changed as well as the size of salary caps.  All of a sudden Cleveland goes to Pittsburgh in the playoffs and wins scoring 48 points and forcing 4 INTs and 5 or 6 turnovers.

    Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute.  During that span, he only threw 1 INT.  I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling.  I'm so sick of that franchise.  Then we had to watch a guy we all appreciated as a Cleveland Brown (Ozzie Newsome) direct Baltimore to 2 Super Bowl wins.  Even worse, while he's allegedly retired - guess who was at the combines with a stop watch up in his press box?  I think he's still doing a lot of the same stuff he did for the Rats before he retired.  I think we saw with Phil Savage - it's not that easy to ask someone else to be Ozzie.  

    Now that we're talking about how things have changed... If anyone would have told me our FO was going to acquire/sign the volume of players they did this offseason (aside from the draft) to improve weaknesses and depth; I would have said I'll believe it when I see it. 

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    @nickers said:

    . I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe

    I love Chubb but i would for a  Herschel Walker kinda trade 

    @nickers said:

    If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.

    he is a lock down corner  on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)

    @syd said:

    I love Chubb but i would for a  Herschel Walker kinda trade 

    he is a lock down corner  on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)

     You tend to draw larger bodied matchups on the outside where height really makes up for the lack of lateral space in either direction. Which is why your classic 'X' receivers are usually big, physical type of guys - Mike Evans, Devante, Metcalf, etc etc. 

     Slot matchups might present a less physical problem.  Downside - being closer to the box and being involved in the run fit.  Silver lining, the improvements along the Dline and (hopefully in the near future) linebacker helping to soften the blow of that potential issue.  Moving Ward inside on occasion where the matchup would be most favorable makes this secondary stronger as a whole.