Aaron Donald Rumors
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fuck cal thought your gonna keep it to football here,guess you just can't help yourself
Yes, it's just another example of Cal bringing one of his lingering poli board hostilities into the football board. Aggies only talks football in here.
Speaking of football, the Hall of Fame Game the Browns will be playing in is less than a month away. It'll be fun to what some of the newcomers and draftees look like.
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Yeah, I saw the cheap shot he took at Aggies. And isn't there another guy that needed to change his screen name at least once already in here trying to instigate drama?
While we didn't add anyone that dominates like Aaron Donald -I DO think the Browns made a great effort this offseason to improve the Defensive Line. I look at all the $$$$$$ Buffalo threw at 1 player (Von Miller) and as soon as he went on IR their hopes of succeeding in the playoffs died. Cincy decimated that defense.
His clique is in full force. ?
So on paper, the Browns seem to have done a helluva job addressing the DLine, which all of us were praying for. Schwartz is an upgrade as DC.
But damn it Flugs, I just can't shake the pessimism going into the season. I've been burned so many times. I mean, I'm excited we are two months out, but I just can't bring myself to think this team is winning 10 or more games. I think the Browns have broke me. ?
His clique is in full force. ?
So on paper, the Browns seem to have done a helluva job addressing the DLine, which all of us were praying for. Schwartz is an upgrade as DC.
But damn it Flugs, I just can't shake the pessimism going into the season. I've been burned so many times. I mean, I'm excited we are two months out, but I just can't bring myself to think this team is winning 10 or more games. I think the Browns have broke me. ?
Our history somewhat reminds us to align our thinking with a "I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed." BUT, let's face it - we wouldn't watch every game they play if we really thought they weren't capable of winning more than the coin toss. Reality is, the Browns were 11-5 in 2020 and 9-8 in 2021. If the Browns didn't neglect the IDL/DT so much last year - they probably wouldn't have lost 3-4 LBers to IR; while they probably would have beaten Atlanta. They might have also beaten the Jets instead of themselves. Going into that 2020 season, I was most worried our LBer Corps. 11 wins later plus a playoff W - they never prevented this team from winning.
In short, a bad football team in Cleveland today is no longer the hopeless 1-31 football team it used to be. It's now a 9-8 or a 7-10 football team that did an impressive job of addressing the weaknesses. Like you, I wish I knew what it will translate to in terms of wins and losses against a brutal schedule. We'll have guys coming off the edge like Myles Garrett, Za'Darius Smith, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Isaiah McGuire and possibly a more experienced version of Alex Wright or Isaiah Thomas. Adding Tomlinson and Ika to DT and other veterans to compete with Winfrey and Elliott for starting jobs and/or reps in the active rotation removes a lot of the free space and forfeiture. All this up front only helps the LBers. Meatball on spaghetti, Schwartz is the DC in charge of all the sic em, sock em and sack em. I think this helps our enthusiasm as fans quite a bit.
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We're among the top 3 rumors!
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We're among the top 3 rumors!
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I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own... What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..
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We're among the top 3 rumors!
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I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own... What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..
I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own... What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..
Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own... What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..
Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...
. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe
I love Chubb but i would for a Herschel Walker kinda trade
If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.
he is a lock down corner on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)
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. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe
I love Chubb but i would for a Herschel Walker kinda trade
If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.
he is a lock down corner on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)
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I don't see him in pisspuke... They're too cheap and they do a great job growing their own... What would the Browns have to do to acquire him.. Trade Chubb?.. No thanks... I like our team as it is constituted currently..
Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.
They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.
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Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...
Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...
LOL "Hospital Ward".
Speaking of hospital wards...I don't think Clowney ever played a full season in his career. Glad he got the pink slip.
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Let me also add.. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe.. IMHO.. Best back we have had since the great Jimmy Brown.. Now that said... If they want Ward and another throw in a pick?.. I'm all in... If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.. I'd deal him.. You don't hang on to Lemons unless your piss poor broke.... Availability is everything...
LOL "Hospital Ward".
Speaking of hospital wards...I don't think Clowney ever played a full season in his career. Glad he got the pink slip.
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Nice job with that Nicks! Since the 70s, that ownership/ownership family has always had the philosophy that you build through the draft. That's always given them a healthier cap when they were out-drafting everyone in the division before Ozzie Newsome was orchestrating the drafts in Ratville.
I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.
They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.
I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.
They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.
Good point about these days! Aside from your points above - they also haven't had the same type of Offensive Line they used to run the ball extremely well behind or protect the passer with. I was talking/thinking the 70s through about their last Super Bowl appearance vrs GB in 2011. In that span, they had a Super Bowl record of 6-1 with 2 QBs they drafted. They've always set the tone from the top with a philosophy of who they are; and they drafted accordingly. I think they're on the 3rd generation of Rooney today and the era has changed as well as the size of salary caps. All of a sudden Cleveland goes to Pittsburgh in the playoffs and wins scoring 48 points and forcing 4 INTs and 5 or 6 turnovers.
Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute. During that span, he only threw 1 INT. I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling. I'm so sick of that franchise. Then we had to watch a guy we all appreciated as a Cleveland Brown (Ozzie Newsome) direct Baltimore to 2 Super Bowl wins. Even worse, while he's allegedly retired - guess who was at the combines with a stop watch up in his press box? I think he's still doing a lot of the same stuff he did for the Rats before he retired. I think we saw with Phil Savage - it's not that easy to ask someone else to be Ozzie.
Now that we're talking about how things have changed... If anyone would have told me our FO was going to acquire/sign the volume of players they did this offseason (aside from the draft) to improve weaknesses and depth; I would have said I'll believe it when I see it.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
. I wouldn't trade Chubb for all the riches in the universe
I love Chubb but i would for a Herschel Walker kinda trade
If I had a car that ran like Hospital Ward.
he is a lock down corner on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)
I love Chubb but i would for a Herschel Walker kinda trade
he is a lock down corner on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)
You tend to draw larger bodied matchups on the outside where height really makes up for the lack of lateral space in either direction. Which is why your classic 'X' receivers are usually big, physical type of guys - Mike Evans, Devante, Metcalf, etc etc.
Slot matchups might present a less physical problem. Downside - being closer to the box and being involved in the run fit. Silver lining, the improvements along the Dline and (hopefully in the near future) linebacker helping to soften the blow of that potential issue. Moving Ward inside on occasion where the matchup would be most favorable makes this secondary stronger as a whole.
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I love Chubb but i would for a Herschel Walker kinda trade
he is a lock down corner on man to man coverage he can shut down one side of the field so fuck the zone or putting him in the slot(where he can get concussed)
You tend to draw larger bodied matchups on the outside where height really makes up for the lack of lateral space in either direction. Which is why your classic 'X' receivers are usually big, physical type of guys - Mike Evans, Devante, Metcalf, etc etc.
Slot matchups might present a less physical problem. Downside - being closer to the box and being involved in the run fit. Silver lining, the improvements along the Dline and (hopefully in the near future) linebacker helping to soften the blow of that potential issue. Moving Ward inside on occasion where the matchup would be most favorable makes this secondary stronger as a whole.
You tend to draw larger bodied matchups on the outside where height really makes up for the lack of lateral space in either direction. Which is why your classic 'X' receivers are usually big, physical type of guys - Mike Evans, Devante, Metcalf, etc etc.
Slot matchups might present a less physical problem. Downside - being closer to the box and being involved in the run fit. Silver lining, the improvements along the Dline and (hopefully in the near future) linebacker helping to soften the blow of that potential issue. Moving Ward inside on occasion where the matchup would be most favorable makes this secondary stronger as a whole.
Good point. Emerson's strength is press coverage; so moving Ward inside to cover the slot allows the Browns to match Emerson up with a WR he can jam at the line of scrimmage.
Man, I still remember the trio of WRs Minnesota had back when they put Randy Moss in the slot (most of the time) as a rookie with Jake Reed and Cris Carter outside. They also had Robert Smith as an excellent receiver out of the backfield. Moss had 69 rec 1313 yards and 17 TDs. All of a sudden, Randall Cunningham was a very accurate passer with 3704 yards, 34 TDs, 10 INTs and a 106 passer rating. Never underestimate those gigantic wing-spans on tall WRs with great hands. Moss is a hard matchup for anyone in the slot; but my guess is Ward would have the best footspeed and agility of our top 3 corners to take on such a challenge today.
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I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.
They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.
Good point about these days! Aside from your points above - they also haven't had the same type of Offensive Line they used to run the ball extremely well behind or protect the passer with. I was talking/thinking the 70s through about their last Super Bowl appearance vrs GB in 2011. In that span, they had a Super Bowl record of 6-1 with 2 QBs they drafted. They've always set the tone from the top with a philosophy of who they are; and they drafted accordingly. I think they're on the 3rd generation of Rooney today and the era has changed as well as the size of salary caps. All of a sudden Cleveland goes to Pittsburgh in the playoffs and wins scoring 48 points and forcing 4 INTs and 5 or 6 turnovers.
Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute. During that span, he only threw 1 INT. I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling. I'm so sick of that franchise. Then we had to watch a guy we all appreciated as a Cleveland Brown (Ozzie Newsome) direct Baltimore to 2 Super Bowl wins. Even worse, while he's allegedly retired - guess who was at the combines with a stop watch up in his press box? I think he's still doing a lot of the same stuff he did for the Rats before he retired. I think we saw with Phil Savage - it's not that easy to ask someone else to be Ozzie.
Now that we're talking about how things have changed... If anyone would have told me our FO was going to acquire/sign the volume of players they did this offseason (aside from the draft) to improve weaknesses and depth; I would have said I'll believe it when I see it.
Good point about these days! Aside from your points above - they also haven't had the same type of Offensive Line they used to run the ball extremely well behind or protect the passer with. I was talking/thinking the 70s through about their last Super Bowl appearance vrs GB in 2011. In that span, they had a Super Bowl record of 6-1 with 2 QBs they drafted. They've always set the tone from the top with a philosophy of who they are; and they drafted accordingly. I think they're on the 3rd generation of Rooney today and the era has changed as well as the size of salary caps. All of a sudden Cleveland goes to Pittsburgh in the playoffs and wins scoring 48 points and forcing 4 INTs and 5 or 6 turnovers.
Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute. During that span, he only threw 1 INT. I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling. I'm so sick of that franchise. Then we had to watch a guy we all appreciated as a Cleveland Brown (Ozzie Newsome) direct Baltimore to 2 Super Bowl wins. Even worse, while he's allegedly retired - guess who was at the combines with a stop watch up in his press box? I think he's still doing a lot of the same stuff he did for the Rats before he retired. I think we saw with Phil Savage - it's not that easy to ask someone else to be Ozzie.
Now that we're talking about how things have changed... If anyone would have told me our FO was going to acquire/sign the volume of players they did this offseason (aside from the draft) to improve weaknesses and depth; I would have said I'll believe it when I see it.
I see you've kept tabs on the Steelers too...better be careful, you and I may be accused of too much "Steeler love" on a Browns board. LOL They just happen to be our main rival and for all intents and purposes our next-door neighbors. Accuse me of being a "nosey neighbor", but NEVER a Steeler lover. I'm also a realist as are you obviously.
Anyway, Pickett concerns me too. I've searched the internetz for negativity on him just to help make me feel better lol, but I'm not finding much. They hired a new GM Omar something, who apparently did a bang-up job in acquiring some talent.
There were signs that the Steelers were going to get to experience what it's like to suck for years. I don't know about that now. I'm just hoping last year was an anomaly.
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I'm not sure if thats true these days. I'm no expert on the Steelrs drafts, but I know they have had some early round disappointments and busts in Delvin Bush and Jarvis Jones, both LB's...a position they used to draft well in. Then there's this OG...Kendrick Greene. I think they benched him. Mason Randolf blows.
They did get a gem in TJ Watt though. Fuck them regardless.
Good point about these days! Aside from your points above - they also haven't had the same type of Offensive Line they used to run the ball extremely well behind or protect the passer with. I was talking/thinking the 70s through about their last Super Bowl appearance vrs GB in 2011. In that span, they had a Super Bowl record of 6-1 with 2 QBs they drafted. They've always set the tone from the top with a philosophy of who they are; and they drafted accordingly. I think they're on the 3rd generation of Rooney today and the era has changed as well as the size of salary caps. All of a sudden Cleveland goes to Pittsburgh in the playoffs and wins scoring 48 points and forcing 4 INTs and 5 or 6 turnovers.
Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute. During that span, he only threw 1 INT. I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling. I'm so sick of that franchise. Then we had to watch a guy we all appreciated as a Cleveland Brown (Ozzie Newsome) direct Baltimore to 2 Super Bowl wins. Even worse, while he's allegedly retired - guess who was at the combines with a stop watch up in his press box? I think he's still doing a lot of the same stuff he did for the Rats before he retired. I think we saw with Phil Savage - it's not that easy to ask someone else to be Ozzie.
Now that we're talking about how things have changed... If anyone would have told me our FO was going to acquire/sign the volume of players they did this offseason (aside from the draft) to improve weaknesses and depth; I would have said I'll believe it when I see it.
Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute. During that span, he only threw 1 INT. I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling.
Anyway, Pickett concerns me too. I've searched the internetz for negativity on him just to help make me feel better lol, but I'm not finding much.
Both of your concerns on Pickett are warranted unfortunately. I watched him at Pitt and now again with the Squeelers and he's the real deal IMO. All that said I am expecting Watson to match that ability and our D to put a lot of pressure on him with the newest revisions/additions.
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Having said all that, we can all laugh at me later and even now when I say I have a very creepy feeling Pickett is going to be a very good QB for them. They went 5-2 in his last 7 games with 2 comeback wins in the final minute. During that span, he only threw 1 INT. I really hope I'm wrong about this feeling.
Anyway, Pickett concerns me too. I've searched the internetz for negativity on him just to help make me feel better lol, but I'm not finding much.
Both of your concerns on Pickett are warranted unfortunately. I watched him at Pitt and now again with the Squeelers and he's the real deal IMO. All that said I am expecting Watson to match that ability and our D to put a lot of pressure on him with the newest revisions/additions.
Both of your concerns on Pickett are warranted unfortunately. I watched him at Pitt and now again with the Squeelers and he's the real deal IMO. All that said I am expecting Watson to match that ability and our D to put a lot of pressure on him with the newest revisions/additions.
I know you are already aware of this, but being good in college doesn't always translate to the pros, so let's hope for the best....er for the worst I should say depending on how you look at it.lol
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I think Ward has done pretty well on the outside against taller big bodied matchups. He’s 5’11’’ but I believe his wingspan is good what he doesn’t have in size he can position himself well with his speed. I can’t recall his vertical but I think his vertical was competitive for the position.
where he’s gone wrong is with the read/react stuff employed by the previous regime..he’s partly to blame for the blown coverages we have had over the past 2/3 years. And I don’t like him in the slot for the simple fact …he’s closer to the LOS and he tries play like he’s 220- he’s missed a 3/4 games per year.
Sounds like Schwartz is going to move guys around…and let these Uber athletic coverage guys we have sit in the WRs back pockets….but if we ever entertain a Donald trade are the Browns better with Aaron Donald or Denzel Ward?
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