Players getting PAID
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Lamar already signed a new deal some time ago, much higher than Watson, though less guaranteed. Burrow should get the highest in the league before the season starts. Next (off-)season Lawrence is next.
As it stands, Watson is only the seventh highest paid QB, with guys who have showed decline like Wilson and Rodger ahead of him. While people were screening bloody murder when he was signed, that's just fair market value. He is 3rd all-time in career QBR. If he plays anything like that the next couple of seasons, I would rephrase to: bargain.
If he doesn't bring us a SB its a complete failure to me.. Period!
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The most basic of arithmetic is a problem for you, isn't it?
SB or Bust... Is that too hard for you?... Apparently it is...
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The most basic of arithmetic is a problem for you, isn't it?
SB or Bust... Is that too hard for you?... Apparently it is...
SB or Bust... Is that too hard for you?... Apparently it is...
The most basic of arithmetic is a problem for you, isn't it?
But he's got..................................................................................................................LOL!?
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SB or Bust... Is that too hard for you?... Apparently it is...
The most basic of arithmetic is a problem for you, isn't it?
But he's got..................................................................................................................LOL!?
But he's got..................................................................................................................LOL!?
It's that or the ...
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
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Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
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Lamar already signed a new deal some time ago, much higher than Watson, though less guaranteed. Burrow should get the highest in the league before the season starts. Next (off-)season Lawrence is next.
As it stands, Watson is only the seventh highest paid QB, with guys who have showed decline like Wilson and Rodger ahead of him. While people were screening bloody murder when he was signed, that's just fair market value. He is 3rd all-time in career QBR. If he plays anything like that the next couple of seasons, I would rephrase to: bargain.
If he doesn't bring us a SB its a complete failure to me.. Period!
If he doesn't bring us a SB its a complete failure to me.. Period!
If they ever did a "where are they now" story about Linus and Sally in the Pumpkin Patch - I'll bet they ended up with more kids from those visits on Halloween than the family on Walton's Mountain ever had.
Anyway, they gave up a lot to get Watson so I'll guarantee you're not the only one that feels this way. I wanted us to draft the guy when all we would have had to do was use the 1st overall pick we earned from 1-15 football (with a contract that would have been restricted to the rookie salary cap). At the time, we wouldn't have to worry how long he needed to be suspended for - and how long the rust factor would take before seeing the same guy that led Houston to the playoffs in his 1st 2 of 3 years suiting up there. I just think the Browns Owner and FO made it all way tougher than it ever needed to be in bringing Watson here. All of that said, he's here and this offseason sure unfolded far better than most of us thought it would.
I don't have a problem with your point. We've had some board members pass away in recent years while we were in "Cleveland Browns fans just need to be more patient mode." When reasonable people have to endure the unreasonable circumstances this fanbase has to endure for decades - there comes a time when "now or never" seems pretty reasonable. I'm gonna agree we need to make it happen damn soon; but I'll chicken shit it to while Watson is here hoping it's this year.
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
Whatever helps you sleep at night , Puppy...
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
I got the impression "it's a bust" is different than "he's a bust" in this conversation. He's attacking the "all or none" plan in this debate. If he wanted to attack the QB he would have typed "Watson is a bust" in this. We've even had an NFL MVP at QB not even able to lead us to the Super Bowl, let alone win it.
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
Whatever helps you sleep at night , Puppy...
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
I got the impression "it's a bust" is different than "he's a bust" in this conversation. He's attacking the "all or none" plan in this debate. If he wanted to attack the QB he would have typed "Watson is a bust" in this. We've even had an NFL MVP at QB not even able to lead us to the Super Bowl, let alone win it.
I got the impression "it's a bust" is different than "he's a bust" in this conversation. He's attacking the "all or none" plan in this debate. If he wanted to attack the QB he would have typed "Watson is a bust" in this. We've even had an NFL MVP at QB not even able to lead us to the Super Bowl, let alone win it.
Korsou had too much Buffalo Trace... He'll live I think...
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Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?

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Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?

I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?

We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
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I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?

We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
To me it is very situational, I felt like we pissed away a great opportunity with the Chiefs divisional game. I said it then too the opportunity was there. But Looking back, appearing in or winning a Super Bowl with Baker was probably out of the question unless you had a perfect storm.
The 80s no question, 88 team I believe that was a missed opportunity. The 87 Browns team may have had problems with the Giants Defense.
I will be disappointed if this core Browns team- Chubb, Watson, Garrett do not get to a Super Bowl.
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I guess my point is that some on here want to make it out as some kind of tragedy if the Browns don't win a Super Bowl with Watson, because of the draft picks used to get him, and his contract.
As compared to what? The first 50+ Super Bowl seasons pre-Watson that the Browns didn't win either?
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I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?

We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season
I used to say, We're extremely entertaining in the offseason. But then, the regular season starts....and we're not entertaining at all.
That, of course, changed when Stefanski was hired.
Last year, Roger GoToHell screwed us over by not adhering to the new sentence administrator who said 6 weeks and instead took our QB away for 11 weeks. Hopefully we screw Roger to the tune of a SB victory.
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