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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
Whatever helps you sleep at night , Puppy...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
I got the impression "it's a bust" is different than "he's a bust" in this conversation. He's attacking the "all or none" plan in this debate. If he wanted to attack the QB he would have typed "Watson is a bust" in this. We've even had an NFL MVP at QB not even able to lead us to the Super Bowl, let alone win it.
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
Whatever helps you sleep at night , Puppy...
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@nickers and @texasag1969 I am hopeful about Watson's play, yes. Calling him a bust if he does not win the Browns our first SB is just plain idiotic regardless. Not being capable of counting to 10 kind of idiotic.
I got the impression "it's a bust" is different than "he's a bust" in this conversation. He's attacking the "all or none" plan in this debate. If he wanted to attack the QB he would have typed "Watson is a bust" in this. We've even had an NFL MVP at QB not even able to lead us to the Super Bowl, let alone win it.
I got the impression "it's a bust" is different than "he's a bust" in this conversation. He's attacking the "all or none" plan in this debate. If he wanted to attack the QB he would have typed "Watson is a bust" in this. We've even had an NFL MVP at QB not even able to lead us to the Super Bowl, let alone win it.
Korsou had too much Buffalo Trace... He'll live I think...
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Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?
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Isn't every season Super Bowl or bust?
I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?
I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
To me it is very situational, I felt like we pissed away a great opportunity with the Chiefs divisional game. I said it then too the opportunity was there. But Looking back, appearing in or winning a Super Bowl with Baker was probably out of the question unless you had a perfect storm.
The 80s no question, 88 team I believe that was a missed opportunity. The 87 Browns team may have had problems with the Giants Defense.
I will be disappointed if this core Browns team- Chubb, Watson, Garrett do not get to a Super Bowl.
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I guess my point is that some on here want to make it out as some kind of tragedy if the Browns don't win a Super Bowl with Watson, because of the draft picks used to get him, and his contract.
As compared to what? The first 50+ Super Bowl seasons pre-Watson that the Browns didn't win either?
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I don't know about that, but according to Fans (as in fanatic) every August the Browns win the SB and the Aggies win the N.C.?
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season... I'm sick of visits to the playoffs.. Saw a bunch in the 80's I want the whole monty... or it's just another wasted season for me...
We always win it on paper... Or win the off season
I used to say, We're extremely entertaining in the offseason. But then, the regular season starts....and we're not entertaining at all.
That, of course, changed when Stefanski was hired.
Last year, Roger GoToHell screwed us over by not adhering to the new sentence administrator who said 6 weeks and instead took our QB away for 11 weeks. Hopefully we screw Roger to the tune of a SB victory.
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I guess my point is that some on here want to make it out as some kind of tragedy if the Browns don't win a Super Bowl with Watson, because of the draft picks used to get him, and his contract.
As compared to what? The first 50+ Super Bowl seasons pre-Watson that the Browns didn't win either?
because of the draft picks used
Just imagine: We could have kept the picks and taken Malik Willis or Desmond Ridder 2 rounds too early and paired him with Cole Strange, who's doing just fine.
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Lamar already signed a new deal some time ago, much higher than Watson, though less guaranteed. Burrow should get the highest in the league before the season starts. Next (off-)season Lawrence is next.
As it stands, Watson is only the seventh highest paid QB, with guys who have showed decline like Wilson and Rodger ahead of him. While people were screening bloody murder when he was signed, that's just fair market value. He is 3rd all-time in career QBR. If he plays anything like that the next couple of seasons, I would rephrase to: bargain.
If he doesn't bring us a SB its a complete failure to me.. Period!
If he doesn't bring us a SB its a complete failure to me.. Period!
I have often said that anything but a Superbowl win is a failed season. So if we are going to stick it on individual players, all of our players since the 1964 championship team have been complete failures.
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all of our players since the 1964 championship team have been complete failures.
Which of course, is not true. Else we have a complete failure currently being enshrined in the HOF.
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Which of course, is not true. Else we have a complete failure currently being enshrined in the HOF.
I don't disagree, but if we apply Nicks criteria for Watson, it sure is. Joe Thomas didn't win us a Superbowl, or even come close for that matter. He was a player on some of the worst teams in NFL history.
What did Sipe do...he didn't win a Superbowl, he's a schmuck.
Bernie, he didn't win, he is just a clod.
Clay Matthews, no wonder he isn't in the HOF, he didn't win anything. They should just remove his name from the HOF ballot.
Those guys didn't do anything more to help us win. They are all pretty much the same as Jim Bundren or Zukaskis.
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I have often said that anything but a Superbowl win is a failed season. So if we are going to stick it on individual players, all of our players since the 1964 championship team have been complete failures.
Exactly.
People trying to make the next few years out to be a special kind of fuck up, even worse than the usual non-Super Bowl winning Browns seasons all tend to be guys who were solidly on the Baker Bandwagon.
Now, that doesn't mean we can't look at the trade as a bad one, don't get that twisted. But this team wasn't winning poop with Baker or some middling rookie QB the Browns would have had without the Watson trade either.
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Which of course, is not true. Else we have a complete failure currently being enshrined in the HOF.
I don't disagree, but if we apply Nicks criteria for Watson, it sure is. Joe Thomas didn't win us a Superbowl, or even come close for that matter. He was a player on some of the worst teams in NFL history.
What did Sipe do...he didn't win a Superbowl, he's a schmuck.
Bernie, he didn't win, he is just a clod.
Clay Matthews, no wonder he isn't in the HOF, he didn't win anything. They should just remove his name from the HOF ballot.
Those guys didn't do anything more to help us win. They are all pretty much the same as Jim Bundren or Zukaskis.
What did Sipe do...he didn't win a Superbowl, he's a schmuck.
Bernie, he didn't win, he is just a clod.
Geezuz that's harsh. Bernie gave his heart and soul for our team. He took us to multiple AFC Championship games.
Only one team can win the super bowl. So, I guess, every other team should cut everyone on the team and start from scratch.
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What did Sipe do...he didn't win a Superbowl, he's a schmuck.
Bernie, he didn't win, he is just a clod.
Geezuz that's harsh. Bernie gave his heart and soul for our team. He took us to multiple AFC Championship games.
Only one team can win the super bowl. So, I guess, every other team should cut everyone on the team and start from scratch.
Geezuz that's harsh. Bernie gave his heart and soul for our team. He took us to multiple AFC Championship games.
Only one team can win the super bowl. So, I guess, every other team should cut everyone on the team and start from scratch.
Cowboys haven't won one in 28 years. You can hear desperation in Jerry Jones these days. Never should have run off his former Arky roommate.
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