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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    The alliance for science, eh? LOL

    Support for the Alliance for Science is provided by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

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    Organizations are run on money. The money for pro-man made goober warning flows freely.

    The truth is, we don't need no stinking liberal fudgey wudgey organizations.

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      5 days agoNobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser, who has disputed issues surrounding climate change, recently was told he would not be speaking to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), according to...
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      The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics - Business Insider

      The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics Joe Weisenthal Jul 30, 2009, 8:01 AM PDT The media portrays climate scientists as having delivered a final verdict on global warming. They haven't....
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      Climate change is a money making farce... In fact... The earth and plants/trees and such put out as much or more harmful carcinogens in the atmosphere than cars or manufacturing plants. This is a FACT!.. There are emissions from Forests and gasseus pockets in the earth...

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232630/

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216657/

      https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/explosive-methane-pockets-siberia-underground-17094982

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        but, I will admit that there are some orgs who are frightened for our planet because of man made goober warning.

        The UN, on of their officers SAID that without a global acceptance of goober warning, there is no chance for REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IN THE WORLD.

        and, of course, the world bank group. they want to redistri....I mean, warn us about man made goober warning give us a hell of a lot of your money, fools. A few weeks ago, we went fishing. Caught some nice bluegills. I threw a nice crappie back - they aren't good eating in the summer. The WATER WAS NOT BOILING. LOL

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          Climate Change and Water - World Bank Group

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          oh, one more thing - china has gotten out of the Paris Climate accords.

          the biggest polluter....

          • hotair.com.icohttps://hotair.com › headlines › 2023 › 07 › 25 › china-abandons-paris-climate-accords-n567082

            China abandons Paris Climate Accords - HotAir

            4 days agoNational Review 4:40 PM on July 25, 2023 It was a bad week for anyone who thought China would cooperate on emissions reduction. President Xi Jinping reiterated that his country would set its own path on the issue and not be influenced by outside factors, according to the Washington Post and Bloomberg.
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            The alliance for science, eh? LOL

            Support for the Alliance for Science is provided by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

            ****************************************************

            Organizations are run on money. The money for pro-man made goober warning flows freely.

            The truth is, we don't need no stinking liberal fudgey wudgey organizations.

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            • www.newsweek.com.icohttps://www.newsweek.com › nobel-prize-winner-who-doesnt-believe-climate-crisis-has-speech-canceled-1815020

              Nobel Prize Winner Who Doesn't Believe Climate Crisis Has ... - Newsweek

              5 days agoNobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser, who has disputed issues surrounding climate change, recently was told he would not be speaking to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), according to...
              https://www.businessinsider.com › the-ten-most-important-climate-change-skeptics-2009-7?op=1

              The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics - Business Insider

              The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics Joe Weisenthal Jul 30, 2009, 8:01 AM PDT The media portrays climate scientists as having delivered a final verdict on global warming. They haven't....
              https://www.foxnews.com/science/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-over-global-warming
               
               
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            @calfoxwc said:

            The alliance for science, eh? LOL

            Support for the Alliance for Science is provided by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

            ****************************************************

            Organizations are run on money. The money for pro-man made goober warning flows freely.

            The truth is, we don't need no stinking liberal fudgey wudgey organizations.

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            • www.newsweek.com.icohttps://www.newsweek.com › nobel-prize-winner-who-doesnt-believe-climate-crisis-has-speech-canceled-1815020

              Nobel Prize Winner Who Doesn't Believe Climate Crisis Has ... - Newsweek

              5 days agoNobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser, who has disputed issues surrounding climate change, recently was told he would not be speaking to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), according to...
              https://www.businessinsider.com › the-ten-most-important-climate-change-skeptics-2009-7?op=1

              The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics - Business Insider

              The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics Joe Weisenthal Jul 30, 2009, 8:01 AM PDT The media portrays climate scientists as having delivered a final verdict on global warming. They haven't....
              https://www.foxnews.com/science/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-over-global-warming
               
               

            1. I said scientific organization. Do you have any?

            2. It is fucking hilarious you all bring up money, as if all of these climatologists got into their field for the money... scientists don't make shit. Then on the other side you have freaking oil companies, incredibly wealthy, actually funneling money into think tanks and individuals to push reports that will support their profits. I can only imagine the propaganda around man made climate change and money is there to distract the easily distracted from the real flow of money from oil companies 

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              Climate change is a money making farce... In fact... The earth and plants/trees and such put out as much or more harmful carcinogens in the atmosphere than cars or manufacturing plants. This is a FACT!.. There are emissions from Forests and gasseus pockets in the earth...

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232630/

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216657/

              https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/explosive-methane-pockets-siberia-underground-17094982

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              @nickers said:

              Climate change is a money making farce... In fact... The earth and plants/trees and such put out as much or more harmful carcinogens in the atmosphere than cars or manufacturing plants. This is a FACT!.. There are emissions from Forests and gasseus pockets in the earth...

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232630/

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216657/

              https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/explosive-methane-pockets-siberia-underground-17094982

              It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

              Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                oh, another "one more thing" ....

                • www.cfr.org.icohttps://www.cfr.org › backgrounder › china-climate-change-policies-environmental-degradation

                  China's Fight Against Climate Change and Environmental Degradation

                  May 19, 2021 2:20 pm (EST) Summary China is the world's top emitter, producing more than a quarter of the world's annual greenhouse gas emissions, which contribute to climate change. It pledged...
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                  but, it's OKAY, just give china a lot of money and "then" they will go green:
                   
                  as soon as the UN can fork over another bunch of trillions....monies. It is ALL about redistribution of wealth. Especially, from US to the UN for dispersal.
                   
                  www.weforum.org.icohttps://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2018 › 04 › china-is-going-green-here-s-how

                  Here's how China is going green | World Economic Forum

                  Funding a greener future China needs an estimated additional RMB 40.3 trillion ($6.4 trillion) to RMB 123.4 trillion ($19.4 trillion) to finance the transition to a greener economy. It has started collecting an environment tax to help fund its environmental policies, and is also trying to attract more green investment.
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                  climate experts do not get money for their orgs if they deny the truth.

                  They only get big money when they go with the flow of crap. Now, WHY WOULD THEY BLACKLIST CLIMATE EXPERTS WHO DON"T FALL IN LINE? (answer - MONEY)

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                    Judith Curry, a climate expert at the Georgia Institute of Technology - who was not part of the analysis - called the study "completely unconvincing" while John Christy of University of Alabama claimed he and other climate sceptics included in the survey were simply "being blacklisted" by colleagues.
                     
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                    @nickers said:

                    Climate change is a money making farce... In fact... The earth and plants/trees and such put out as much or more harmful carcinogens in the atmosphere than cars or manufacturing plants. This is a FACT!.. There are emissions from Forests and gasseus pockets in the earth...

                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232630/

                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216657/

                    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/explosive-methane-pockets-siberia-underground-17094982

                    It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

                    Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

                    Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

                    ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

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                      Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

                      Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

                      More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

                      Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

                      More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

                      Follow the money, most tend to lean toward the funding...

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

                        Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

                        ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

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                        @nickers said:

                        ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

                        This has nothing to do with me. The experts here are the climatologists that have dedicated their lives to the subject. Hilarious to think you're over here, struggling with long division, and thinking you have some ground breaking info the experts don't know. 

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

                          But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            @nickers said:

                            ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

                            This has nothing to do with me. The experts here are the climatologists that have dedicated their lives to the subject. Hilarious to think you're over here, struggling with long division, and thinking you have some ground breaking info the experts don't know. 

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            This has nothing to do with me. The experts here are the climatologists that have dedicated their lives to the subject. Hilarious to think you're over here, struggling with long division, and thinking you have some ground breaking info the experts don't know. 

                            It has everything to do with you...You started the thread Dupa...

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                              So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

                              But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

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                              So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

                              But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

                              Has any of those climatologists predictions come true...the Earth should have ended four or five times already.

                              Why does the climate Czar John Kerry fly in private jets which cause a great deal of pollution?

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

                                But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

                                Has any of those climatologists predictions come true...the Earth should have ended four or five times already.

                                Why does the climate Czar John Kerry fly in private jets which cause a great deal of pollution?

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                                Has any of those climatologists predictions come true...the Earth should have ended four or five times already.

                                Why does the climate Czar John Kerry fly in private jets which cause a great deal of pollution?

                                Nope not a 1... But they'll keep pushing the fear...

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                                    Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

                                    Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

                                    More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

                                    Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

                                    More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

                                     So?

                                    Why is this important to you? Or to anyone?

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                                      I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                                      I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

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                                        I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                                        I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

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                                        I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                                        I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                                        It was a sound theory until proven otherwise (Still up for debate).. I've never bought into it completely.. But I do believe it is part of the ignition system if you will.. But were gonna find out in the end I think Sound and light have a lot more to do with this than some inertial event

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                                          I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                                          I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

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                                          @fy56 said:

                                          I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                                          I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                                          Any time anytime vaguely scientific comes out of the mouths of right wing posters on here I don't believe you've ever been correct...

                                          https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-science-denial

                                          Kirkpatrick went back to her research and forgot about her quote. That was, until mid-August, when she received a text from a friend saying that there was an article — originally published by an organization called the Institute of Art and Ideas but now being republished on mainstream news sites — saying that JWST's observations of distant galaxies had disproved the Big Bang, which is not correct. 

                                          Worse still, the article had taken what Kirkpatrick had told Nature and misused it out of context to give the false impression that astrophysicists were panicking over the thought of the Big Bang theory being wrong.

                                          The author of the article, an independent researcher named Eric Lerner, has been a serial denier of the Big Bang since the late 1980s, preferring his personal pseudoscientific alternative.

                                          Scientists welcome new evidence. Theory is evolving and zeroing in on an answer. But a scientific theory has a lot of rigor behind it than what Joe blow thinks when he hears the word theory. 

                                          posters on here seem to have their own beliefs, shun any and all legitimate evidence that disagrees, and blindly believe any illegitimate source that says what they want to hear. Super similar to very religious folks and their beliefs, no surprise. Starting with an outcome and working backwards to cherry pick evidence 

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