Skip to content
The Browns Board
Theme
  • System
  • Light
  • Dark
  • Login
  • Register
  • Forums
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Donate
  1. Home
  2. Political Discussion
  3. Most legitimate scientific organization that disagrees with man made climate change

Most legitimate scientific organization that disagrees with man made climate change

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Political Discussion
56 Posts 9 Posters 1.9k Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @nickers said:

    Climate change is a money making farce... In fact... The earth and plants/trees and such put out as much or more harmful carcinogens in the atmosphere than cars or manufacturing plants. This is a FACT!.. There are emissions from Forests and gasseus pockets in the earth...

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232630/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216657/

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/explosive-methane-pockets-siberia-underground-17094982

    It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

    Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

    nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
    • 14k Posts
    • 5k Reputation
    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @mld-woody said:

    It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

    Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

    ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply Last reply
    👍
    Quote Reply
    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

      Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

      Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

      More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

      Vambo VamboV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter First Post Posting Machine Collaborator Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
      • 18k Posts
      • 6k Reputation
      VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
      #11

      @mld-woody said:

      Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

      Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

      More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

      Follow the money, most tend to lean toward the funding...

      1 Reply Last reply
      👍
      Quote Reply
      • nickersN nickers

        @mld-woody said:

        It is always adorable and hilarious when the climate deniers on here post something vaguely scientific and then act like the actual experts in the fields haven't already considered it... 

        Yeah man, you tell them. Whatever your degree is in, if you have one, I'm sure blows away the climatologists... 

        ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

        MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
        • 33k Posts
        • 3k Reputation
        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
        #12

        @nickers said:

        ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

        This has nothing to do with me. The experts here are the climatologists that have dedicated their lives to the subject. Hilarious to think you're over here, struggling with long division, and thinking you have some ground breaking info the experts don't know. 

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
        nickersN 1 Reply Last reply
        👍 😂
        Quote Reply
        • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
          • 33k Posts
          • 3k Reputation
          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
          #13

          So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

          But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
          VamboV 1 Reply Last reply
          Quote Reply
          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            @nickers said:

            ... You don't disappoint with your stupid rhetoric once again and always avoiding the obvious evidence... Keep your head up your ass.. You must love the odor... All your degree has done is show people how gullible and emotional you are...

            This has nothing to do with me. The experts here are the climatologists that have dedicated their lives to the subject. Hilarious to think you're over here, struggling with long division, and thinking you have some ground breaking info the experts don't know. 

            nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
            • 14k Posts
            • 5k Reputation
            nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
            #14

            @mld-woody said:

            This has nothing to do with me. The experts here are the climatologists that have dedicated their lives to the subject. Hilarious to think you're over here, struggling with long division, and thinking you have some ground breaking info the experts don't know. 

            It has everything to do with you...You started the thread Dupa...

            Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
            1 Reply Last reply
            😂
            Quote Reply
            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

              But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

              Vambo VamboV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter First Post Posting Machine Collaborator Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
              • 18k Posts
              • 6k Reputation
              VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
              #15

              @mld-woody said:

              So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

              But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

              Has any of those climatologists predictions come true...the Earth should have ended four or five times already.

              Why does the climate Czar John Kerry fly in private jets which cause a great deal of pollution?

              nickersN 1 Reply Last reply
              Quote Reply
              • VamboV Vambo

                @mld-woody said:

                So, a lot of posts about political crap, but no orgs yet. 

                But it's the climatologists that are in it for the money... Right....

                Has any of those climatologists predictions come true...the Earth should have ended four or five times already.

                Why does the climate Czar John Kerry fly in private jets which cause a great deal of pollution?

                nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                • 14k Posts
                • 5k Reputation
                nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
                #16

                @vambo said:

                Has any of those climatologists predictions come true...the Earth should have ended four or five times already.

                Why does the climate Czar John Kerry fly in private jets which cause a great deal of pollution?

                Nope not a 1... But they'll keep pushing the fear...

                Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
                1 Reply Last reply
                👍
                Quote Reply
                • Vambo VamboV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter First Post Posting Machine Collaborator Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
                  • 18k Posts
                  • 6k Reputation
                  VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  Quote Reply
                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                    Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

                    Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

                    More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

                    FY56 F One Year In Posting Machine Conversation Starter Very Popular Dedicated Collaborator Reacting Well First Post One Month Later Week One Done
                    • 4k Posts
                    • 3k Reputation
                    F FY56 wrote on last edited by FY56
                    #18

                    @mld-woody said:

                    Curious... for all the climate deniers here... what is the most legitimate scientific organization that agrees with you? Seriously. Name one. 

                    Where, on the other side... https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

                    More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

                     So?

                    Why is this important to you? Or to anyone?

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    Quote Reply
                    • FY56 F One Year In Posting Machine Conversation Starter Very Popular Dedicated Collaborator Reacting Well First Post One Month Later Week One Done
                      • 4k Posts
                      • 3k Reputation
                      F FY56 wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                      I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                      nickersN MLD WoodyM 2 Replies Last reply
                      👍
                      Quote Reply
                      • F FY56

                        I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                        I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                        nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                        • 14k Posts
                        • 5k Reputation
                        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
                        #20

                        @fy56 said:

                        I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                        I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                        It was a sound theory until proven otherwise (Still up for debate).. I've never bought into it completely.. But I do believe it is part of the ignition system if you will.. But were gonna find out in the end I think Sound and light have a lot more to do with this than some inertial event

                        Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
                        1 Reply Last reply
                        👍
                        Quote Reply
                        • F FY56

                          I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                          I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                          MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                          • 33k Posts
                          • 3k Reputation
                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          @fy56 said:

                          I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                          I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                          Any time anytime vaguely scientific comes out of the mouths of right wing posters on here I don't believe you've ever been correct...

                          https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-science-denial

                          Kirkpatrick went back to her research and forgot about her quote. That was, until mid-August, when she received a text from a friend saying that there was an article — originally published by an organization called the Institute of Art and Ideas but now being republished on mainstream news sites — saying that JWST's observations of distant galaxies had disproved the Big Bang, which is not correct. 

                          Worse still, the article had taken what Kirkpatrick had told Nature and misused it out of context to give the false impression that astrophysicists were panicking over the thought of the Big Bang theory being wrong.

                          The author of the article, an independent researcher named Eric Lerner, has been a serial denier of the Big Bang since the late 1980s, preferring his personal pseudoscientific alternative.

                          Scientists welcome new evidence. Theory is evolving and zeroing in on an answer. But a scientific theory has a lot of rigor behind it than what Joe blow thinks when he hears the word theory. 

                          posters on here seem to have their own beliefs, shun any and all legitimate evidence that disagrees, and blindly believe any illegitimate source that says what they want to hear. Super similar to very religious folks and their beliefs, no surprise. Starting with an outcome and working backwards to cherry pick evidence 

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                          F 1 Reply Last reply
                          Quote Reply
                          • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                            • 33k Posts
                            • 3k Reputation
                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            In the meantime, astronomers continue to learn more about the early universe with the fantastic data coming down from JWST. 

                            The irony is that JWST's observations are actually supporting the Big Bang model, showing that the first galaxies were smaller and grew larger over time, just as Big Bang cosmology predicts. The surprising finding that galaxies in the early universe are more plentiful, and a little more massive and structured than expected, doesn't mean that the Big Bang is wrong. It just means that some of the cosmology that follows the Big Bang requires a little bit of tweaking. 

                            And that's the fun of science. Despite the arguments from Lerner and other science deniers, science is never clean-cut; we're always learning, always improving our theories, and there is no shadowy conspiracy trying to stamp out independent thought. More than anything, science is based on observation and evidence, which the Big Bang has in bucketloads. 

                             

                            That's not to say people shouldn't be allowed to question things, but intelligent questioning is done in a framework of open-mindedness without pre-conceived ideologies, where beliefs are forged by evidence, rather than the other way around. That's exactly how the Big Bang theory was conceived nearly a century ago: by following the (then surprising) evidence that the universe is expanding, working out what this might logically mean, and then testing it on predictions such as the existence of the CMB radiation.

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                            nickersN C 2 Replies Last reply
                            Quote Reply
                            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                              In the meantime, astronomers continue to learn more about the early universe with the fantastic data coming down from JWST. 

                              The irony is that JWST's observations are actually supporting the Big Bang model, showing that the first galaxies were smaller and grew larger over time, just as Big Bang cosmology predicts. The surprising finding that galaxies in the early universe are more plentiful, and a little more massive and structured than expected, doesn't mean that the Big Bang is wrong. It just means that some of the cosmology that follows the Big Bang requires a little bit of tweaking. 

                              And that's the fun of science. Despite the arguments from Lerner and other science deniers, science is never clean-cut; we're always learning, always improving our theories, and there is no shadowy conspiracy trying to stamp out independent thought. More than anything, science is based on observation and evidence, which the Big Bang has in bucketloads. 

                               

                              That's not to say people shouldn't be allowed to question things, but intelligent questioning is done in a framework of open-mindedness without pre-conceived ideologies, where beliefs are forged by evidence, rather than the other way around. That's exactly how the Big Bang theory was conceived nearly a century ago: by following the (then surprising) evidence that the universe is expanding, working out what this might logically mean, and then testing it on predictions such as the existence of the CMB radiation.

                              nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                              • 14k Posts
                              • 5k Reputation
                              nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
                              #23

                              @mld-woody said:

                              In the meantime, astronomers continue to learn more about the early universe with the fantastic data coming down from JWST. 

                              The irony is that JWST's observations are actually supporting the Big Bang model, showing that the first galaxies were smaller and grew larger over time, just as Big Bang cosmology predicts. The surprising finding that galaxies in the early universe are more plentiful, and a little more massive and structured than expected, doesn't mean that the Big Bang is wrong. It just means that some of the cosmology that follows the Big Bang requires a little bit of tweaking. 

                              And that's the fun of science. Despite the arguments from Lerner and other science deniers, science is never clean-cut; we're always learning, always improving our theories, and there is no shadowy conspiracy trying to stamp out independent thought. More than anything, science is based on observation and evidence, which the Big Bang has in bucketloads. 

                               

                              That's not to say people shouldn't be allowed to question things, but intelligent questioning is done in a framework of open-mindedness without pre-conceived ideologies, where beliefs are forged by evidence, rather than the other way around. That's exactly how the Big Bang theory was conceived nearly a century ago: by following the (then surprising) evidence that the universe is expanding, working out what this might logically mean, and then testing it on predictions such as the existence of the CMB radiation.

                              It was basically the work of Edwin Hubble who deduced after careful observation the universe was expanding. Without his outstanding studies we would not be where we are today.. I don't think the BBT is entirely wrong.. But I don't think its the final answer either... I think of it more as a component to what/however it all started... I think in the end sonic frequencies will have a lot to do with this.. I know it sounds weird.. But so is the Universe itself...

                              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
                              MLD WoodyM 1 Reply Last reply
                              Quote Reply
                              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                @fy56 said:

                                I bet 99% of scientists also agreed that the universe started with the Big Bang. Now the big bang is under debate in the scientific world because of the discoveries the James Webb telescope made in finding bodies that shouldn't exist.

                                I know I know, the Big Bang was only a theory, but still.

                                Any time anytime vaguely scientific comes out of the mouths of right wing posters on here I don't believe you've ever been correct...

                                https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-science-denial

                                Kirkpatrick went back to her research and forgot about her quote. That was, until mid-August, when she received a text from a friend saying that there was an article — originally published by an organization called the Institute of Art and Ideas but now being republished on mainstream news sites — saying that JWST's observations of distant galaxies had disproved the Big Bang, which is not correct. 

                                Worse still, the article had taken what Kirkpatrick had told Nature and misused it out of context to give the false impression that astrophysicists were panicking over the thought of the Big Bang theory being wrong.

                                The author of the article, an independent researcher named Eric Lerner, has been a serial denier of the Big Bang since the late 1980s, preferring his personal pseudoscientific alternative.

                                Scientists welcome new evidence. Theory is evolving and zeroing in on an answer. But a scientific theory has a lot of rigor behind it than what Joe blow thinks when he hears the word theory. 

                                posters on here seem to have their own beliefs, shun any and all legitimate evidence that disagrees, and blindly believe any illegitimate source that says what they want to hear. Super similar to very religious folks and their beliefs, no surprise. Starting with an outcome and working backwards to cherry pick evidence 

                                FY56 F One Year In Posting Machine Conversation Starter Very Popular Dedicated Collaborator Reacting Well First Post One Month Later Week One Done
                                • 4k Posts
                                • 3k Reputation
                                F FY56 wrote on last edited by FY56
                                #24

                                @mld-woody said:

                                Any time anytime vaguely scientific comes out of the mouths of right wing posters on here I don't believe you've ever been correct...

                                I did a little digging, and you are right, but it's not a matter of denial on my part. I have no issues with the Big Bang Theory.

                                After The Webb telescope findings, we were inundated with internet stories and YOUTUBE "The Big Bang Debunked" "videos... and how  "we must re-think how the universe began"....and that's sorta where I left off...never going back later to follow up on the subject so I took it for granted.

                                I just watched one of my favorites Neil Degrasse Tyson who in a nutshell said that the Webb didn't debunk the BBT.

                                Brian Cox is fascinating to listen to.  Michio Kaku is another one of my favorites.

                                nickersN MLD WoodyM 2 Replies Last reply
                                👍
                                Quote Reply
                                • F FY56

                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Any time anytime vaguely scientific comes out of the mouths of right wing posters on here I don't believe you've ever been correct...

                                  I did a little digging, and you are right, but it's not a matter of denial on my part. I have no issues with the Big Bang Theory.

                                  After The Webb telescope findings, we were inundated with internet stories and YOUTUBE "The Big Bang Debunked" "videos... and how  "we must re-think how the universe began"....and that's sorta where I left off...never going back later to follow up on the subject so I took it for granted.

                                  I just watched one of my favorites Neil Degrasse Tyson who in a nutshell said that the Webb didn't debunk the BBT.

                                  Brian Cox is fascinating to listen to.  Michio Kaku is another one of my favorites.

                                  nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                                  • 14k Posts
                                  • 5k Reputation
                                  nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @fy56 said:

                                  I did a little digging, and you are right, but it's not a matter of denial on my part. I have no issues with the Big Bang Theory.

                                  After The Webb telescope findings, we were inundated with internet stories and YOUTUBE "The Big Bang Debunked" "videos... and how we must "we must re-think how the universe began"....and that's sorta where I left off...never going back later to follow up on the subject so I took it for granted.

                                  I just watched one of my favorites Neil Degrasse Tyson who in a nutshell said that the Webb didn't debunk the BBT.

                                  Brian Cox is fascinating to listen to.  Michio Kaku is another one of my favorites.

                                  I like NDT... But the celebrity thing with him annoys me a little... Michio Kaku I like because he expresses an open mind to things..

                                  Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
                                  F 1 Reply Last reply
                                  👍
                                  Quote Reply
                                  • nickersN nickers

                                    @fy56 said:

                                    I did a little digging, and you are right, but it's not a matter of denial on my part. I have no issues with the Big Bang Theory.

                                    After The Webb telescope findings, we were inundated with internet stories and YOUTUBE "The Big Bang Debunked" "videos... and how we must "we must re-think how the universe began"....and that's sorta where I left off...never going back later to follow up on the subject so I took it for granted.

                                    I just watched one of my favorites Neil Degrasse Tyson who in a nutshell said that the Webb didn't debunk the BBT.

                                    Brian Cox is fascinating to listen to.  Michio Kaku is another one of my favorites.

                                    I like NDT... But the celebrity thing with him annoys me a little... Michio Kaku I like because he expresses an open mind to things..

                                    FY56 F One Year In Posting Machine Conversation Starter Very Popular Dedicated Collaborator Reacting Well First Post One Month Later Week One Done
                                    • 4k Posts
                                    • 3k Reputation
                                    F FY56 wrote on last edited by FY56
                                    #26

                                    @nickers said:

                                    I like NDT... But the celebrity thing with him annoys me a little... Michio Kaku I like because he expresses an open mind to things..

                                    Yes me too! I could do without the joking around.

                                    But tell the truth, because NDT is black is what most annoys you, right?. LOL  Right Woody?

                                    No one can accuse us of not being pro-diversity. We like listening to the black guy, the bi-sexual white guy, and the Asian. lol

                                     Not sure if you've ever listened to Cox but he is more subdued than the other two, always smiling, but very captivating.

                                    nickersN MLD WoodyM 2 Replies Last reply
                                    Quote Reply
                                    • F FY56

                                      @nickers said:

                                      I like NDT... But the celebrity thing with him annoys me a little... Michio Kaku I like because he expresses an open mind to things..

                                      Yes me too! I could do without the joking around.

                                      But tell the truth, because NDT is black is what most annoys you, right?. LOL  Right Woody?

                                      No one can accuse us of not being pro-diversity. We like listening to the black guy, the bi-sexual white guy, and the Asian. lol

                                       Not sure if you've ever listened to Cox but he is more subdued than the other two, always smiling, but very captivating.

                                      nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                                      • 14k Posts
                                      • 5k Reputation
                                      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
                                      #27

                                      @fy56 said:

                                      Yes me too! I could do without the joking around.

                                      But tell the truth, because NDT is black is what most annoys you, right?. LOL  Right Woody?

                                      No one can accuse us of not being pro-diversity. We like listening to the black guy, the bi-sexual white guy, and the Asian. lol

                                       Not sure if you've ever listened to Cox but he is more subdued than the other two, always smiling, but very captivating.

                                      No hell I have lived with black people , so that's the furthest thing from my mind... It's all his Star talk shit that kind of irks me a bit... Brian Cox I vaguely know... The guy more on Woody's level would be Richard Dawkins.. This guy just shits on the existence of God and Creation with every fiber of his being... While some of his studies and concepts are interesting... I find him to be a certified nut job...

                                      EDIT: the thing that bothers me with NDT more than anything is.. He act's more like a Rock Star Celeb than a man of science... Carl Sagan was perfect in every way... He didn't set out to be a media star.. Just was more like Leonard Bernstein... Bringing Science to the public rich or poor.. The way Bernstein gave the common man the opportunity to know and enjoy classical music Not just the wealthy..... Both Bernstein and Sagan are childhood heroes of mine...

                                      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      👍
                                      Quote Reply
                                      • nickersN nickers

                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        In the meantime, astronomers continue to learn more about the early universe with the fantastic data coming down from JWST. 

                                        The irony is that JWST's observations are actually supporting the Big Bang model, showing that the first galaxies were smaller and grew larger over time, just as Big Bang cosmology predicts. The surprising finding that galaxies in the early universe are more plentiful, and a little more massive and structured than expected, doesn't mean that the Big Bang is wrong. It just means that some of the cosmology that follows the Big Bang requires a little bit of tweaking. 

                                        And that's the fun of science. Despite the arguments from Lerner and other science deniers, science is never clean-cut; we're always learning, always improving our theories, and there is no shadowy conspiracy trying to stamp out independent thought. More than anything, science is based on observation and evidence, which the Big Bang has in bucketloads. 

                                         

                                        That's not to say people shouldn't be allowed to question things, but intelligent questioning is done in a framework of open-mindedness without pre-conceived ideologies, where beliefs are forged by evidence, rather than the other way around. That's exactly how the Big Bang theory was conceived nearly a century ago: by following the (then surprising) evidence that the universe is expanding, working out what this might logically mean, and then testing it on predictions such as the existence of the CMB radiation.

                                        It was basically the work of Edwin Hubble who deduced after careful observation the universe was expanding. Without his outstanding studies we would not be where we are today.. I don't think the BBT is entirely wrong.. But I don't think its the final answer either... I think of it more as a component to what/however it all started... I think in the end sonic frequencies will have a lot to do with this.. I know it sounds weird.. But so is the Universe itself...

                                        MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                                        • 33k Posts
                                        • 3k Reputation
                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @nickers said:

                                        It was basically the work of Edwin Hubble who deduced after careful observation the universe was expanding. Without his outstanding studies we would not be where we are today.. I don't think the BBT is entirely wrong.. But I don't think its the final answer either... I think of it more as a component to what/however it all started... I think in the end sonic frequencies will have a lot to do with this.. I know it sounds weird.. But so is the Universe itself...

                                        Sure, science is ever evolving, learning, getting more accurate, etc. I don't disagree. 

                                        Just hate seeing words twisted by pseudo scientific to straight anti science nut jobs. Not saying that's you or necessarily anyone on here. And while this board highlights those folks on the right, they exist on the left too (example, Greenpeace and their anti nuclear power rhetoric, or hippue anti vaxxers)

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        Quote Reply
                                        • F FY56

                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Any time anytime vaguely scientific comes out of the mouths of right wing posters on here I don't believe you've ever been correct...

                                          I did a little digging, and you are right, but it's not a matter of denial on my part. I have no issues with the Big Bang Theory.

                                          After The Webb telescope findings, we were inundated with internet stories and YOUTUBE "The Big Bang Debunked" "videos... and how  "we must re-think how the universe began"....and that's sorta where I left off...never going back later to follow up on the subject so I took it for granted.

                                          I just watched one of my favorites Neil Degrasse Tyson who in a nutshell said that the Webb didn't debunk the BBT.

                                          Brian Cox is fascinating to listen to.  Michio Kaku is another one of my favorites.

                                          MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                                          • 33k Posts
                                          • 3k Reputation
                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @fy56 said:

                                          I did a little digging, and you are right, but it's not a matter of denial on my part. I have no issues with the Big Bang Theory.

                                          After The Webb telescope findings, we were inundated with internet stories and YOUTUBE "The Big Bang Debunked" "videos... and how  "we must re-think how the universe began"....and that's sorta where I left off...never going back later to follow up on the subject so I took it for granted.

                                          I just watched one of my favorites Neil Degrasse Tyson who in a nutshell said that the Webb didn't debunk the BBT.

                                          Brian Cox is fascinating to listen to.  Michio Kaku is another one of my favorites.

                                          Well I appreciate your willingness to look back into something after your initial thoughts on it. All too often that doesn't happen on the Internet or on this board. 

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Quote Reply

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Theme
                                          • System
                                          • Light
                                          • Dark
                                          The Browns Board Terms Privacy

                                          The Browns Board is an independent fan community. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by the Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Guardians, the NFL, NBA, MLB, or any of their affiliates. Team names, logos, and other marks are the property of their respective owners.

                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Forums
                                          • Recent
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Donate