Kareem Hunt / He will play Sunday !
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And McGahee's was while still in college...bowl game. Nick has already had a serious injury to that knee. I don't know how many times you can repair a knee, but it can't be unlimited. Next year is Nicks last year on the contact. If he is medically clear we can cut him or play him. If not, we can IR him for the year and pay him around $12 mil or try to work out an injury settlement and release him.
Either way, I seriously doubt Nick plays for the Browns again. Maybe not for anybody. I was going to say probably, but didn't want to do that.
As for Watson, no doubt it is best if he starts playing like a top 10 QB. If not, we took a shot and it didn't work out. I wouldn't say it was a bad bet when we made it. People may not have liked us signing him, but nobody can seriously say they ever doubted his skill level based on what he had done in the NFL before.
I do know that if we fire Berry or Stefanski, I doubt I renew my season tickets. I might if we keep Schwartz and bring in a full spread O type coordinator. Watson played it well at Clemson and in Houston. If that is all he can play well, then we need to play him in that.
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We might have cap problems, but we clear space this go around.
The key is that Watson gets his mojo back and starts playing. If that doesn't happen, then we have problems because we are back to looking for a QB unless the rookie isn't just a mirage and actually turns in to a real deal player. That said, we won't even think about moving from Watson for another 2 years.
Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops.
I don't disagree, but just like Sanders, Chubb isn't playing football this season. But no doubt that sanders had a lot of 1-2 yard carries. You just had to keep handing him the ball, waiting for that 60 yard run.
Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.
Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops.
Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.
The two separate surgeries isn’t actually a bad thing. It’s separate for meniscus and separate to repair the ligaments. They seem to believe that repairing them separately is better for faster rehab. So not that they can’t do it in one, but that it’s actually better to do it separately.
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I may be in the minority here, but I think Ford is the RB1 with Hunt repeating his RB2 role. Hunt looked done last season.. because he likely is.
Ford was RB3 in his draft year. He was an Alabama recruit who transferred to Cincy for more PT.. which should be to his positive because he has less wear on the wheels.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops.
Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.
The two separate surgeries isn’t actually a bad thing. It’s separate for meniscus and separate to repair the ligaments. They seem to believe that repairing them separately is better for faster rehab. So not that they can’t do it in one, but that it’s actually better to do it separately.
The two separate surgeries isn’t actually a bad thing. It’s separate for meniscus and separate to repair the ligaments. They seem to believe that repairing them separately is better for faster rehab. So not that they can’t do it in one, but that it’s actually better to do it separately.
I just hope by the time he comes back it won't be too late.
This was to be his sixth NFL season, which means he might come back during his seventh, and probably wouldn't be, if he ever is, 100% until his eight NFL season.
So frustrating. Sigh.
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I may be in the minority here, but I think Ford is the RB1 with Hunt repeating his RB2 role. Hunt looked done last season.. because he likely is.
Ford was RB3 in his draft year. He was an Alabama recruit who transferred to Cincy for more PT.. which should be to his positive because he has less wear on the wheels.
I may be in the minority here, but I think Ford is the RB1 with Hunt repeating his RB2 role. Hunt looked done last season.. because he likely is.
Ford was RB3 in his draft year. He was an Alabama recruit who transferred to Cincy for more PT.. which should be to his positive because he has less wear on the wheels.
You might be correct on this, and I agree, I thought Hunt looked pedestrian last year. His yards per carry and yards per reception were both career-low.
Some thought he lost a step, but to me it looked like he literally was playing blind. I don't know how many times he'd take the handoff and run with his hair on fire right into one of his OLineman's backsides.
Yet I won't lie, I'm glad to see him back. I'm a damn sentimentalist, I suppose.
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I like Hunt as well, but he did lose a step last season. He is good, but isn't going to carry a team.
I agree with something you said. Browns fans are pretty good and not wanting to be impressed. lol
The reality is Chubb is done for this year for sure, and there is a good chance for good. He is like Joe Thomas, you aren't going to replace the guy. As fans, we have to move on and accept whatever the replacement can give because for many, no matter what the player brings it just isn't going to be good enough.
I like Hunt as well, but he did lose a step last season. He is good, but isn't going to carry a team.
I agree with something you said. Browns fans are pretty good and not wanting to be impressed. lol
The reality is Chubb is done for this year for sure, and there is a good chance for good. He is like Joe Thomas, you aren't going to replace the guy. As fans, we have to move on and accept whatever the replacement can give because for many, no matter what the player brings it just isn't going to be good enough.
Just remember.. OJ Anderson wasn't fast and bull dozed his way to a championship with Bill Parcells.
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Ottis Anderson, like Hunt, was all-pro his first season and it's all downhill from there. Only 220#, he played for the Cardinals for 7.5 years before going to NYG mid-season 1986.. where he was a backup to Joe Morris until 1988. Joe Morris, incidentally, ended his career in Cleveland as a 3.1 ypa backup in 1991.
Ottis was also 3.1 ypa basically every year in NY. That super bowl year, Rodney Hampton was 4.2, Meggett was 7.5.. even ancient Phil Simms was above 4.0 when he scrambled. Ottis somehow had a 3.5ypa that season but his entire time in NY [before and after] he was just a plugger backup.
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Ottis Anderson, like Hunt, was all-pro his first season and it's all downhill from there. Only 220#, he played for the Cardinals for 7.5 years before going to NYG mid-season 1986.. where he was a backup to Joe Morris until 1988. Joe Morris, incidentally, ended his career in Cleveland as a 3.1 ypa backup in 1991.
Ottis was also 3.1 ypa basically every year in NY. That super bowl year, Rodney Hampton was 4.2, Meggett was 7.5.. even ancient Phil Simms was above 4.0 when he scrambled. Ottis somehow had a 3.5ypa that season but his entire time in NY [before and after] he was just a plugger backup.
Ottis Anderson, like Hunt, was all-pro his first season and it's all downhill from there. Only 220#, he played for the Cardinals for 7.5 years before going to NYG mid-season 1986.. where he was a backup to Joe Morris until 1988. Joe Morris, incidentally, ended his career in Cleveland as a 3.1 ypa backup in 1991.
Ottis was also 3.1 ypa basically every year in NY. That super bowl year, Rodney Hampton was 4.2, Meggett was 7.5.. even ancient Phil Simms was above 4.0 when he scrambled. Ottis somehow had a 3.5ypa that season but his entire time in NY [before and after] he was just a plugger backup.
He was the epitome of 3 yards and a cloud of dust.. He was by no means elite.. But BP squeezed every ounce out of him...
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He will play Sunday !
Running back Kareem Hunt just re-signed with the Browns on Wednesday after the team lost Nick Chubb to a season-ending knee injury.
Hunt is already set to make his 2023 debut on Sunday against the Titans.
"," head coach Kevin Stefanski said in his Friday press conference. "He’s ready to play. He’s in good shape. I think how much and doing what, we’ll determine that over the next 48 hours. But I think he’s comfortable with everything that we have up."
Hunt rushed for 468 yards with three touchdowns and caught 35 passes for 210 yards with a TD last year for Cleveland.
Though Hunt has returned, Jerome Ford is still set to be the team’s starting running back. Stefanski called him a “diligent worker” on Friday.
“I go back to the spring and I think I’ve told you guys, I was very, very impressed with how he handled the spring — mentally, physically,” Stefanski said. “Really jumped into that role as a protector and understand all of the things that go with protection. Catches the ball well. So, had a good spring and he’s always prepared himself for these roles.
“I think Jerome is an example of a guy who’s always been ready.”
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If Hunt gets a majority of the snaps from here on out, I predict he will have a pro-bowl season. This is right in his wheelhouse. Since the offense passes more, it should play to Hunt being a dual threat. That's if Shitmypantski actually uses him the right way. Hunt always wanted that starting gig, now is his chance. Hunt is clearly the better back.
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If Hunt gets a majority of the snaps from here on out, I predict he will have a pro-bowl season. This is right in his wheelhouse. Since the offense passes more, it should play to Hunt being a dual threat. That's if Shitmypantski actually uses him the right way. Hunt always wanted that starting gig, now is his chance. Hunt is clearly the better back.
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If Hunt gets a majority of the snaps from here on out, I predict he will have a pro-bowl season. This is right in his wheelhouse. Since the offense passes more, it should play to Hunt being a dual threat. That's if Shitmypantski actually uses him the right way. Hunt always wanted that starting gig, now is his chance. Hunt is clearly the better back.
That's if Shitmypantski actually uses him the right way.
How's the Optimists Club membership working out for ya??
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Hunt catches the ball out of the backfield and I don't think he's fumbled but three times in his career. He has a high motor.He gives a second and third effort. The sooner he's in there the better.
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Ford is the lead back and should be. He played well.
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Hunt looked explosive in the limited touches he’s had, defenitely wanna see more. Wouldn’t mind more 2RB sets too - even without Chubb.
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Ford is the lead back and should be. He played well.
Ford had 10 carries for 18 yards (with a 9 yard long...so he had 9 other carries for 9 yards). And early on he dropped a desperation, save-the-play pass by Watson...which would've been an easy catch for my 9 yr old grandson.
In Ford's defense, the Titans are tough to run on and none of our RB's did much better. But Hunt made a nice catch of a high pass on a middle screen and followed his blockers nicely to convert a 3rd down late in the game.
So, it reads like I'm down on Ford...when in reality I'm not. I just don't see him as a proven commodity...and I see Hunt as a league leading rusher with experience in the league.
Ford's been here all of TC & preseason, although he didn't really play in any preseason games he's earned his spot in the backfield in Chubbs absence. I just have more trust in Hunt.
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Ford is the lead back and should be. He played well.
Ford had 10 carries for 18 yards (with a 9 yard long...so he had 9 other carries for 9 yards). And early on he dropped a desperation, save-the-play pass by Watson...which would've been an easy catch for my 9 yr old grandson.
In Ford's defense, the Titans are tough to run on and none of our RB's did much better. But Hunt made a nice catch of a high pass on a middle screen and followed his blockers nicely to convert a 3rd down late in the game.
So, it reads like I'm down on Ford...when in reality I'm not. I just don't see him as a proven commodity...and I see Hunt as a league leading rusher with experience in the league.
Ford's been here all of TC & preseason, although he didn't really play in any preseason games he's earned his spot in the backfield in Chubbs absence. I just have more trust in Hunt.
Ford had 10 carries for 18 yards (with a 9 yard long...so he had 9 other carries for 9 yards). And early on he dropped a desperation, save-the-play pass by Watson...which would've been an easy catch for my 9 yr old grandson.
In Ford's defense, the Titans are tough to run on and none of our RB's did much better. But Hunt made a nice catch of a high pass on a middle screen and followed his blockers nicely to convert a 3rd down late in the game.
So, it reads like I'm down on Ford...when in reality I'm not. I just don't see him as a proven commodity...and I see Hunt as a league leading rusher with experience in the league.
Ford's been here all of TC & preseason, although he didn't really play in any preseason games he's earned his spot in the backfield in Chubbs absence. I just have more trust in Hunt.
I am not saying Ford is a proven commodity. I am just saying he is the lead back and should be for a while.
Hunt was a FA for a long time. Nobody signed him. I don't buy this idea he was just waiting on us to sign. If he had any kind of decent offer, he would have signed. He is a football player. Where else is he going to make $800,000 a year or whatever his minimum might be?
I do like Hunt. he will be a good back with Watson at QB where I don't think Chubb was. Hunt is a good stand a take the handoff back where Chubb need a running start so to speak.
We drafted Ford to end up the lead back....the time is here. No doubt it will take several games to gain the confidence...then we find out. As you said, the Titans are as good against the run as we are, the raves are tough, and so are the Niners. I could take a while, then we find out if he is the guy or not.
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Hunt looked explosive in the limited touches he’s had, defenitely wanna see more. Wouldn’t mind more 2RB sets too - even without Chubb.
Hunt looked explosive in the limited touches he’s had, defenitely wanna see more. Wouldn’t mind more 2RB sets too - even without Chubb.
Miami had several two back sets with Mostert and Achane against Denver. The track meet was on with multiple misdirection crossing of those two in the backfield with some real handy misdirecting handoffs/fakes by tua. It was an offense of beauty. Denver was guessing all game long and tua was paying close attention to what the LBs were biting on while making the decision on who actually got the ball and who carried out the fake as if they had it. I'd like Stef to review that game and incorporate what they did with Ford, Hunt and DW. We have speedy enough players there to pull it off too.
Since most here hate Denver anyway, I'd advise you to go watch what Miami was doing to them. Absolute confusion in the Denver D 90% of the time in the two back Miami offense. And when confusion reigns, speed kills. I think we can do that too.
EDIT: And occasionally Hill would come flying around all 3 to add to the confusion. So much fun to watch them run it.
EDIT #2: 8am EDT: Just watched Good Morning Football explaining the unreal motions pre-snap and during the Dolphins Offense using the two backs and WRs to totally "blitz" the Broncos with confusing plays. Everything I said with video backup.
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