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  • Never forget, the Kareem will rise to the top. 

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  • I like Hunt as well, but he did lose a step last season.  He is good, but isn't going to carry a team.

    I agree with something you said.  Browns fans are pretty good and not wanting to be impressed.  lol

    The reality is Chubb is done for this year for sure, and there is a good chance for good.  He is like Joe Thomas, you aren't  going to replace the guy.  As fans, we have to move on and accept whatever the replacement can give because for many, no matter what the player brings it just isn't going to be good enough.

  • Never forget, the Kareem will rise to the top. 

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Never forget, the Kareem will rise to the top. 

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    He very well might.  Ford might do the same.  Nobody knows at this point.  Heck, both might end up sucking ass.

  • @hoorta said:

    Hunt is only 27, and still has a lot of tread on the tires. Guys usually don't start "losing a step" until they're well into their 30s.  He primarily was unsigned because the RB market tanked, and had (justifiably) a high asking price. 

    Let me do a nickers for you 'peen. Ford is mediocre. Sucks. Cheap backup to Chubb that was only going to see limited time. Has all the power of an e-bike. Take away his big run, he averaged 2.5 yards a carry against the Steelers.  

    I am not comparing the two, rather simply to point out you can't take away runs.  If you took away long runs from Barry Sanders, he would be a pretty average back.

    @ballpeen said:

    If you took away long runs from Barry Sanders, he would be a pretty average back.

    Detroit wasn't any good during his tenure.  A breakaway run or two per game didn't help them much.  The rest of the time they punted.  I'd actually rather have the consistent yards that Chubb gave us over Sanders.  But that's just me.

  • @ballpeen said:

    If you took away long runs from Barry Sanders, he would be a pretty average back.

    Detroit wasn't any good during his tenure.  A breakaway run or two per game didn't help them much.  The rest of the time they punted.  I'd actually rather have the consistent yards that Chubb gave us over Sanders.  But that's just me.

    @orion said:

    Detroit wasn't any good during his tenure.  A breakaway run or two per game didn't help them much.  The rest of the time they punted.  I'd actually rather have the consistent yards that Chubb gave us over Sanders.  But that's just me.

    I don't disagree, but just like Sanders, Chubb isn't playing football this season.  But no doubt that sanders had a lot of 1-2 yard carries.  You just had to keep handing him the ball, waiting for that 60 yard run.

  • Never forget, the Kareem will rise to the top. 

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Never forget, the Kareem will rise to the top. 

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    Haha brilliant. I actually have a poster of Macho Man saying this framed in my room lol.

  • @flugel said:

    It can't hurt to try that idea.  Even though there's 2 pretty good reasons named Robinson & Allgeier that he's now 3rd on Atlanta's depth chart - he's proven he can score from anywhere on the field as a Return Specialist, RB or WR.  

    If not, Jerome Ford rushed for 106 yards in his first opportunity with significant action.  Even so, that was only in about 2.5 quarters of action.  On that long run, he outran a lot of guys with good pursuit angles on him and the only way he was going to get caught - was a Safety that was already back deep diving/hoping that was a better option than what all others failed to do. 

    I can see Hunt and Ford giving us a Thunder and Lightning type of 1-2 punch.  Ford is still playing on a rookie salary cap restricted contract as a 2nd year player on a team with a salary cap that has to be about ready to suffocate in the very near future.

    We might have cap problems, but we clear space this go around.

    We will probably jettison Amari after this season.  We do have to hope at least one of Tillman or Moore balls out.  Wo do have a few vets like Bitonio we probably aren't going to extend any.

    But at any rate, the loss of 1st rounders may start to hurt over the next few seasons.  Those are the guys that by year 3-4 have turned in to very good players.  On the flip side, berry has done a pretty good job with the 2nd through 4th round to get at least pretty good players, but it will be a good thing to start getting 1st rounders again after this next draft.

    The key is that Watson gets his mojo back and starts playing.  If that doesn't happen, then we have problems because we are back to looking for a QB unless the rookie isn't just a mirage and actually turns in to a real deal player.  That said, we won't even think about moving from Watson for another 2 years.

    @ballpeen said:

    We might have cap problems, but we clear space this go around.

    The key is that Watson gets his mojo back and starts playing.  If that doesn't happen, then we have problems because we are back to looking for a QB unless the rookie isn't just a mirage and actually turns in to a real deal player.  That said, we won't even think about moving from Watson for another 2 years.

    Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops. 

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't disagree, but just like Sanders, Chubb isn't playing football this season.  But no doubt that sanders had a lot of 1-2 yard carries.  You just had to keep handing him the ball, waiting for that 60 yard run.

    Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.  🙁   

  • And McGahee's was while still in college...bowl game.  Nick has already had a serious injury to that knee.  I don't know how many times you can repair a knee, but it can't be unlimited.  Next year is Nicks last year on the contact.  If he is medically clear we can cut him or play him.  If not, we can IR him for the year and pay him around $12 mil or try to work out an injury settlement and release him.

    Either way, I seriously doubt Nick plays for the Browns again.  Maybe not for anybody.  I was going to say probably, but didn't want to do that.

    As for Watson, no doubt it is best if he starts playing like a top 10 QB.  If not, we took a shot and it didn't work out.  I wouldn't say it was a bad bet when we made it.  People may not have liked us signing him, but nobody can seriously say they ever doubted his skill level based on what he had done in the NFL before.

    I do know that if we fire Berry or Stefanski, I doubt I renew my season tickets.  I might if we keep Schwartz and bring in a full spread O type coordinator.  Watson played it well at Clemson and in Houston.  If that is all he can play well, then we need to play him in that.

  • @ballpeen said:

    We might have cap problems, but we clear space this go around.

    The key is that Watson gets his mojo back and starts playing.  If that doesn't happen, then we have problems because we are back to looking for a QB unless the rookie isn't just a mirage and actually turns in to a real deal player.  That said, we won't even think about moving from Watson for another 2 years.

    Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops. 

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't disagree, but just like Sanders, Chubb isn't playing football this season.  But no doubt that sanders had a lot of 1-2 yard carries.  You just had to keep handing him the ball, waiting for that 60 yard run.

    Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.  🙁   

    @hoorta said:

    Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops. 

    Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.  🙁   

    The two separate surgeries isn’t actually a bad thing. It’s separate for meniscus and separate to repair the ligaments. They seem to believe that repairing them separately is better for faster rehab. So not that they can’t do it in one, but that it’s actually better to do it separately.

  • I may be in the minority here, but I think Ford is the RB1 with Hunt repeating his RB2 role.  Hunt looked done last season.. because he likely is.

    Ford was RB3 in his draft year.  He was an Alabama recruit who transferred to Cincy for more PT.. which should be to his positive because he has less wear on the wheels.

  • @hoorta said:

    Regarding the bold 'peen If Watson doesn't start playing at least 1\2 decently WERE SCREWED. To the tune of the $195 million guaranteed we'll still owe him to get him here. That contract is going to be a cap busting albatross if he flops. 

    Regarding Chubb- looks like that was a shades of Willis McGahee destruction of his knee. Just saw they're now talking two separate surgeries to repair it.  🙁   

    The two separate surgeries isn’t actually a bad thing. It’s separate for meniscus and separate to repair the ligaments. They seem to believe that repairing them separately is better for faster rehab. So not that they can’t do it in one, but that it’s actually better to do it separately.

    @bbedward said:

    The two separate surgeries isn’t actually a bad thing. It’s separate for meniscus and separate to repair the ligaments. They seem to believe that repairing them separately is better for faster rehab. So not that they can’t do it in one, but that it’s actually better to do it separately.

    I just hope by the time he comes back it won't be too late. 

    This was to be his sixth NFL season, which means he might come back during his seventh, and probably wouldn't be, if he ever is, 100% until his eight NFL season.

    So frustrating. Sigh. 

  • I may be in the minority here, but I think Ford is the RB1 with Hunt repeating his RB2 role.  Hunt looked done last season.. because he likely is.

    Ford was RB3 in his draft year.  He was an Alabama recruit who transferred to Cincy for more PT.. which should be to his positive because he has less wear on the wheels.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I may be in the minority here, but I think Ford is the RB1 with Hunt repeating his RB2 role.  Hunt looked done last season.. because he likely is.

    Ford was RB3 in his draft year.  He was an Alabama recruit who transferred to Cincy for more PT.. which should be to his positive because he has less wear on the wheels.

    You might be correct on this, and I agree, I thought Hunt looked pedestrian last year. His yards per carry and yards per reception were both career-low. 

    Some thought he lost a step, but to me it looked like he literally was playing blind. I don't know how many times he'd take the handoff and run with his hair on fire right into one of his OLineman's backsides. 

    Yet I won't lie, I'm glad to see him back. I'm a damn sentimentalist, I suppose. 

  • I like Hunt as well, but he did lose a step last season.  He is good, but isn't going to carry a team.

    I agree with something you said.  Browns fans are pretty good and not wanting to be impressed.  lol

    The reality is Chubb is done for this year for sure, and there is a good chance for good.  He is like Joe Thomas, you aren't  going to replace the guy.  As fans, we have to move on and accept whatever the replacement can give because for many, no matter what the player brings it just isn't going to be good enough.

    @ballpeen said:

    I like Hunt as well, but he did lose a step last season.  He is good, but isn't going to carry a team.

    I agree with something you said.  Browns fans are pretty good and not wanting to be impressed.  lol

    The reality is Chubb is done for this year for sure, and there is a good chance for good.  He is like Joe Thomas, you aren't  going to replace the guy.  As fans, we have to move on and accept whatever the replacement can give because for many, no matter what the player brings it just isn't going to be good enough.

    Just remember.. OJ Anderson wasn't fast and bull dozed his way to a championship with Bill Parcells.

  • Ottis Anderson, like Hunt, was all-pro his first season and it's all downhill from there.  Only 220#, he played for the Cardinals for 7.5 years before going to NYG mid-season 1986.. where he was a backup to Joe Morris until 1988.  Joe Morris, incidentally, ended his career in Cleveland as a 3.1 ypa backup in 1991.

    Ottis was also 3.1 ypa basically every year in NY.  That super bowl year, Rodney Hampton was 4.2, Meggett was 7.5.. even ancient Phil Simms was above 4.0 when he scrambled.  Ottis somehow had a 3.5ypa that season but his entire time in NY [before and after] he was just a plugger backup.

  • Ottis Anderson, like Hunt, was all-pro his first season and it's all downhill from there.  Only 220#, he played for the Cardinals for 7.5 years before going to NYG mid-season 1986.. where he was a backup to Joe Morris until 1988.  Joe Morris, incidentally, ended his career in Cleveland as a 3.1 ypa backup in 1991.

    Ottis was also 3.1 ypa basically every year in NY.  That super bowl year, Rodney Hampton was 4.2, Meggett was 7.5.. even ancient Phil Simms was above 4.0 when he scrambled.  Ottis somehow had a 3.5ypa that season but his entire time in NY [before and after] he was just a plugger backup.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Ottis Anderson, like Hunt, was all-pro his first season and it's all downhill from there.  Only 220#, he played for the Cardinals for 7.5 years before going to NYG mid-season 1986.. where he was a backup to Joe Morris until 1988.  Joe Morris, incidentally, ended his career in Cleveland as a 3.1 ypa backup in 1991.

    Ottis was also 3.1 ypa basically every year in NY.  That super bowl year, Rodney Hampton was 4.2, Meggett was 7.5.. even ancient Phil Simms was above 4.0 when he scrambled.  Ottis somehow had a 3.5ypa that season but his entire time in NY [before and after] he was just a plugger backup.

    He was the epitome of 3 yards and a cloud of dust.. He was by no means elite.. But BP squeezed every ounce out of him...

  • He will play Sunday !

    Running back Kareem Hunt just re-signed with the Browns on Wednesday after the team lost Nick Chubb to a season-ending knee injury.

    Hunt is already set to make his 2023 debut on Sunday against the Titans.

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    ," head coach Kevin Stefanski said in his Friday press conference. "He’s ready to play. He’s in good shape. I think how much and doing what, we’ll determine that over the next 48 hours. But I think he’s comfortable with everything that we have up."

     

    Hunt rushed for 468 yards with three touchdowns and caught 35 passes for 210 yards with a TD last year for Cleveland.

    Though Hunt has returned, Jerome Ford is still set to be the team’s starting running back. Stefanski called him a “diligent worker” on Friday.

    “I go back to the spring and I think I’ve told you guys, I was very, very impressed with how he handled the spring — mentally, physically,” Stefanski said. “Really jumped into that role as a protector and understand all of the things that go with protection. Catches the ball well. So, had a good spring and he’s always prepared himself for these roles.

    “I think Jerome is an example of a guy who’s always been ready.”

  • Nice to see Hunt + Ford  - but - they don't equal  Chubb.

    Hopefully they might be good enough together.    

  • If Hunt gets a majority of the snaps from here on out, I predict he will have a pro-bowl season. This is right in his wheelhouse. Since the offense passes more, it should play to Hunt being a dual threat. That's if Shitmypantski actually uses him the right way. Hunt always wanted that starting gig, now is his chance. Hunt is clearly the better back.

  • Fucking Q(cause it tickles) Hunt can be the man

  • N Neo

    If Hunt gets a majority of the snaps from here on out, I predict he will have a pro-bowl season. This is right in his wheelhouse. Since the offense passes more, it should play to Hunt being a dual threat. That's if Shitmypantski actually uses him the right way. Hunt always wanted that starting gig, now is his chance. Hunt is clearly the better back.

    @neo said:

    if Shitmypantski

    o.k enough of Ghoul speak