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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    This Is Why The Guardians Waited So Long To Trade Amed Rosario

    Chris Antonetti explains why the Cleveland Guardians held onto Amed Rosario for so long.

    Gabriel Arias and Tyler Freeman are currently with the Big League club. Brayan Rocchio is raking at Triple-A. Jose Tena, Juan Brito, and Angel Martinez are making a name for themselves at Double-A with the Rubber Ducks. 

    All of those players are middle infielders who were being blocked by Amed Rosario who's manned shortstop for the last two and a half years.

    There's no denying that Rosario had his positive moments with the Guardians. He hit .278/.314/.397 during his tenure and was continuously a reliable bat in the hot summer months. However, Rosario became a defensive liability and his bat was streaky at best in 2023.

     

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    What's Next For Guardians Following Amed Rosario Trade?

    The Cleveland Guardians will need to address their roster after trading Amed Rosario to the Los Angeles Dodgers.

    Amed Rosario has been a staple of the Cleveland Guardians lineup for the last two and a half seasons. He was at times inconsistent at the plate, but still hit .278/.314/.397 during his tenure with Cleveland. 

    Now the veteran heads out to Los Angeles as the Dodgers send RHP Noah Syndergaard back to Cleveland to kick start the trade deadline. 

    These are the moves that will follow after the ....... ?????

     
     

    Gabriel Arias And Tyler Freeman

    Trading Rosario accomplished a major goal for the Guardians. That was opening up playing time for Gabriel Arias and Tyler Freeman at shortstop. Both young infielders have been blocked by Amed.Arias has played 11 games at short this season and Freeman has made just four games there. It appears the time will be split evenly, but those numbers are about to skyrocket.

    Noah Syndergaard To Meet Up With Team

    Noah Syndergaard was on a rehab assignment before being traded to Cleveland. He was scheduled to make a start on Thursday, but that can no longer happen for obvious reason

    Instead, Thor will travel to Chicago to meet up with the team and where he will throw a bullpen session. The organization will determine what to do with Syndergaard following this.

    Antonetti did say that starting him on Friday (which is looking like it'll be another bullpen game) is not currently on the table.

    Oscar Gonzalez Recalled From Triple-A

    Trading Rosario and not adding Syndergaard to the roster immediately leaves an open spot. This will be filled by Oscar Gonzalez. Yes, Spongebob himself will be back with the Big League club!    Gonzalez was sent down to the minors after a rough start to the season where he only got 14 hits in 73 at-bats. However, he's played well with the Columbus Clippers this season slashing .275/.316/.473 which included a game where he hit for the cycle.

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    Read More:

    Chris Antonetti Talks Amed Rosario Trade

    Noah Syndergaard Is Exactly The Type of Pitcher The Guardians Need

    REPORT: Guardians Trade Amed Rosario To Dodgers For Noah Syndergaard

    Guardians Get Back On Track, Win Third Straight 

     

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Looking ahead to 2024's position players...

    I feel like these positions can be written in ink:

    Firstbase: Josh Naylor

    Secondbase: Andres Gimenez

    Shortstop: ?

    Thirdbase: Jose Ramirez

    Left Field: Steven Kwan

    Center Field: ?

    Right Field: ?

    Catcher: Bo Naylor

    Designated Hitter: ?

    Shortstop is still in the air, with Rocchio, Arias and Freeman in a three-rookie fight. My prediction is Rocchio wins this battle, Freeman becomes the utility infielder, Arias gets traded in the offseason. (I could see Freeman getting traded too, since Arias has shown the ability to play OF). For center field, I just can't see a team so power-deficient trotting out Myles Straw again. He is possibly the best defensive centerfielder the team has had since Grady Sizemore, or possibly Kenny Lofton. His bat is non-existent. Right Field has been a mixture of young guys like Oscar Gonzalez (and his inability to not swing at everything), Will Brennan (a nice player, but kind of a fringey player who might be best as a #4 OF). George Valera is a top prospect and a possible RF of the future. 

    I could see some trades this offseason, possibly including one of the young shortstops and Shane Bieber, but Bieb's trade value is probably low at this point. The team needs an infusion of power. Kyle Manzardo is a future 1b/DH to pair with Josh Naylor, unfortunately he is out right now, so he's going to need a decent stretch at AAA before being a viable option.  A short-term veteran pick up in free agency to allow Manzardo and/or Valera time to mature in Columbus. 

  • Looking ahead to 2024's position players...

    I feel like these positions can be written in ink:

    Firstbase: Josh Naylor

    Secondbase: Andres Gimenez

    Shortstop: ?

    Thirdbase: Jose Ramirez

    Left Field: Steven Kwan

    Center Field: ?

    Right Field: ?

    Catcher: Bo Naylor

    Designated Hitter: ?

    Shortstop is still in the air, with Rocchio, Arias and Freeman in a three-rookie fight. My prediction is Rocchio wins this battle, Freeman becomes the utility infielder, Arias gets traded in the offseason. (I could see Freeman getting traded too, since Arias has shown the ability to play OF). For center field, I just can't see a team so power-deficient trotting out Myles Straw again. He is possibly the best defensive centerfielder the team has had since Grady Sizemore, or possibly Kenny Lofton. His bat is non-existent. Right Field has been a mixture of young guys like Oscar Gonzalez (and his inability to not swing at everything), Will Brennan (a nice player, but kind of a fringey player who might be best as a #4 OF). George Valera is a top prospect and a possible RF of the future. 

    I could see some trades this offseason, possibly including one of the young shortstops and Shane Bieber, but Bieb's trade value is probably low at this point. The team needs an infusion of power. Kyle Manzardo is a future 1b/DH to pair with Josh Naylor, unfortunately he is out right now, so he's going to need a decent stretch at AAA before being a viable option.  A short-term veteran pick up in free agency to allow Manzardo and/or Valera time to mature in Columbus. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Looking ahead to 2024's position players...

    I feel like these positions can be written in ink:  *See comments below.

    ? Manager ?  ★ Tito Francona as long as his body and everything else hold up.   Best in the business. 

    Firstbase: Josh Naylor  check,  need his bat WHEN HEALTHY !

    Secondbase: Andres Gimenez. check  [ truthfully shows how much we liked and miss Robbie A + my #1 guy OMAR VIZQUEL ! ]

    Shortstop: ?  Jose ??  Trading Rosario accomplished a major goal for the Guardians. That was opening up playing time for Gabriel Arias and Tyler Freeman at shortstop. ......  should solve that problem for years, see who evolves as #1 and #2 + a utility infielder 

    Thirdbase: Jose Ramirez.  ★★★  check for years 

    Left Field: Steven Kwan  Gold Glove !  

    Center Field: ? here  Straw has the glove + arm maybe his lugger that can also play RF and maybe:

    Catcher: Bo Naylor. good enough for now,  glove first, would be nice for a slugging catcher

    Designated Hitter: ?  Josh / Jose / ??  unless they find a designated SLUGGER HERE ! 

    [ NOTE :  Good write-up and analysis on the Guardians below. ]

    ●  Shortstop is still in the air, with Rocchio, Arias and Freeman in a three-rookie fight. My prediction is Rocchio wins this battle, Freeman becomes the utility infielder, Arias gets traded in the offseason. (I could see Freeman getting traded too, since Arias has shown the ability to play OF). For center field, I just can't see a team so power-deficient trotting out Myles Straw again. ★ He is possibly the best defensive centerfielder the team has had since Grady Sizemore, or possibly Kenny Lofton. His bat is non-existent. Right Field has been a mixture of young guys like Oscar Gonzalez (and his inability to not swing at everything), ● Will Brennan (a nice player, but kind of a fringey player who might be best as a #4 OF). George Valera is a top prospect and a possible RF of the future. 

    I could see some trades this offseason, possibly including one of the young shortstops and ★ Shane Bieber, but Bieb's trade value is probably low at this point. The team needs an infusion of power. Kyle Manzardo is a future 1b/DH to pair with Josh Naylor, unfortunately he is out right now, so he's going to need a decent stretch at AAA before being a viable option.  A short-term veteran pick up in free agency to allow Manzardo and/or Valera time to mature in Columbus. 

    ★★  One of these Cleveland INDIANS/ GUARDIANS  trademarks trading a good or Cy Young pitcher at their peak (the #1 commodity in MLB)for several good  young   players  and maybe an older hitter position player.   Just look back at some great old classic trades.  Some Cy Young pitchers in the mix.  Those deals kept the  INDIANS/ GUARDIANS  competitive for many years. 

    And the best A, AA, AAA  farm system in MLB.  For the most part centrally located in Ohio. 

    I think that the Guardians are positioned well to repeat in 2023 (despite pitching injuries)  and do well for years due to the BEST FO in MLB.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

  • sydS syd

    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

    Hehehe ..... you just can't trust them Injuns.

  • @syd said:

    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

    Hehehe ..... you just can't trust them Injuns.

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Hehehe ..... you just can't trust them Injuns.

    and to throw salt on the wound 3 reds pitchers are out with covid

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Just saw the highlights of Game 1 of the Rangers vs Rays playoff series.

    Tampa Bay had a little over 19k fans. 

    That's embarrassing. 

  • Just saw the highlights of Game 1 of the Rangers vs Rays playoff series.

    Tampa Bay had a little over 19k fans. 

    That's embarrassing. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Just saw the highlights of Game 1 of the Rangers vs Rays playoff series.

    Tampa Bay had a little over 19k fans. 

    That's embarrassing. 

    I just watched the Minnesota  Twins  3-1 win  highlights.   Great defense and one player hits two home runs .... that's it.  Kind of reminded me of the Cleveland GUARDIANS  style of small ball.   But that's it, Twins win.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Potential 2024 firstbasemen Kyle Manzardo, who the Guardians acquired from Tampa Bay for Aaron Civale this summer, off to hot start in Arizona Fall League. 

    https://awaybackgone.com/posts/guardians-kyle-manzardo-homers-in-third-straight-game-in-arizona-fall-league-01hcj092vze7

    And as I write this the Phillies knock off the Atlanta Braves, the team most considered the favorite to win the World Series. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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