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 ▪︎ The 2023 ▪︎--> 2024 continuing moves by the Cleveland  GUARDIANS  staff & FO  in the 2023 year.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Looking ahead to 2024's position players...

    I feel like these positions can be written in ink:

    Firstbase: Josh Naylor

    Secondbase: Andres Gimenez

    Shortstop: ?

    Thirdbase: Jose Ramirez

    Left Field: Steven Kwan

    Center Field: ?

    Right Field: ?

    Catcher: Bo Naylor

    Designated Hitter: ?

    Shortstop is still in the air, with Rocchio, Arias and Freeman in a three-rookie fight. My prediction is Rocchio wins this battle, Freeman becomes the utility infielder, Arias gets traded in the offseason. (I could see Freeman getting traded too, since Arias has shown the ability to play OF). For center field, I just can't see a team so power-deficient trotting out Myles Straw again. He is possibly the best defensive centerfielder the team has had since Grady Sizemore, or possibly Kenny Lofton. His bat is non-existent. Right Field has been a mixture of young guys like Oscar Gonzalez (and his inability to not swing at everything), Will Brennan (a nice player, but kind of a fringey player who might be best as a #4 OF). George Valera is a top prospect and a possible RF of the future. 

    I could see some trades this offseason, possibly including one of the young shortstops and Shane Bieber, but Bieb's trade value is probably low at this point. The team needs an infusion of power. Kyle Manzardo is a future 1b/DH to pair with Josh Naylor, unfortunately he is out right now, so he's going to need a decent stretch at AAA before being a viable option.  A short-term veteran pick up in free agency to allow Manzardo and/or Valera time to mature in Columbus. 

  • Looking ahead to 2024's position players...

    I feel like these positions can be written in ink:

    Firstbase: Josh Naylor

    Secondbase: Andres Gimenez

    Shortstop: ?

    Thirdbase: Jose Ramirez

    Left Field: Steven Kwan

    Center Field: ?

    Right Field: ?

    Catcher: Bo Naylor

    Designated Hitter: ?

    Shortstop is still in the air, with Rocchio, Arias and Freeman in a three-rookie fight. My prediction is Rocchio wins this battle, Freeman becomes the utility infielder, Arias gets traded in the offseason. (I could see Freeman getting traded too, since Arias has shown the ability to play OF). For center field, I just can't see a team so power-deficient trotting out Myles Straw again. He is possibly the best defensive centerfielder the team has had since Grady Sizemore, or possibly Kenny Lofton. His bat is non-existent. Right Field has been a mixture of young guys like Oscar Gonzalez (and his inability to not swing at everything), Will Brennan (a nice player, but kind of a fringey player who might be best as a #4 OF). George Valera is a top prospect and a possible RF of the future. 

    I could see some trades this offseason, possibly including one of the young shortstops and Shane Bieber, but Bieb's trade value is probably low at this point. The team needs an infusion of power. Kyle Manzardo is a future 1b/DH to pair with Josh Naylor, unfortunately he is out right now, so he's going to need a decent stretch at AAA before being a viable option.  A short-term veteran pick up in free agency to allow Manzardo and/or Valera time to mature in Columbus. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #7

    @dutch-oven said:

    Looking ahead to 2024's position players...

    I feel like these positions can be written in ink:  *See comments below.

    ? Manager ?  ★ Tito Francona as long as his body and everything else hold up.   Best in the business. 

    Firstbase: Josh Naylor  check,  need his bat WHEN HEALTHY !

    Secondbase: Andres Gimenez. check  [ truthfully shows how much we liked and miss Robbie A + my #1 guy OMAR VIZQUEL ! ]

    Shortstop: ?  Jose ??  Trading Rosario accomplished a major goal for the Guardians. That was opening up playing time for Gabriel Arias and Tyler Freeman at shortstop. ......  should solve that problem for years, see who evolves as #1 and #2 + a utility infielder 

    Thirdbase: Jose Ramirez.  ★★★  check for years 

    Left Field: Steven Kwan  Gold Glove !  

    Center Field: ? here  Straw has the glove + arm maybe his lugger that can also play RF and maybe:

    Catcher: Bo Naylor. good enough for now,  glove first, would be nice for a slugging catcher

    Designated Hitter: ?  Josh / Jose / ??  unless they find a designated SLUGGER HERE ! 

    [ NOTE :  Good write-up and analysis on the Guardians below. ]

    ●  Shortstop is still in the air, with Rocchio, Arias and Freeman in a three-rookie fight. My prediction is Rocchio wins this battle, Freeman becomes the utility infielder, Arias gets traded in the offseason. (I could see Freeman getting traded too, since Arias has shown the ability to play OF). For center field, I just can't see a team so power-deficient trotting out Myles Straw again. ★ He is possibly the best defensive centerfielder the team has had since Grady Sizemore, or possibly Kenny Lofton. His bat is non-existent. Right Field has been a mixture of young guys like Oscar Gonzalez (and his inability to not swing at everything), ● Will Brennan (a nice player, but kind of a fringey player who might be best as a #4 OF). George Valera is a top prospect and a possible RF of the future. 

    I could see some trades this offseason, possibly including one of the young shortstops and ★ Shane Bieber, but Bieb's trade value is probably low at this point. The team needs an infusion of power. Kyle Manzardo is a future 1b/DH to pair with Josh Naylor, unfortunately he is out right now, so he's going to need a decent stretch at AAA before being a viable option.  A short-term veteran pick up in free agency to allow Manzardo and/or Valera time to mature in Columbus. 

    ★★  One of these Cleveland INDIANS/ GUARDIANS  trademarks trading a good or Cy Young pitcher at their peak (the #1 commodity in MLB)for several good  young   players  and maybe an older hitter position player.   Just look back at some great old classic trades.  Some Cy Young pitchers in the mix.  Those deals kept the  INDIANS/ GUARDIANS  competitive for many years. 

    And the best A, AA, AAA  farm system in MLB.  For the most part centrally located in Ohio. 

    I think that the Guardians are positioned well to repeat in 2023 (despite pitching injuries)  and do well for years due to the BEST FO in MLB.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

  • sydS syd

    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

    Hehehe ..... you just can't trust them Injuns.

  • @syd said:

    Those Basterds Indians, they took waived pitchers from the angels right in front of The Reds

    Hehehe ..... you just can't trust them Injuns.

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Hehehe ..... you just can't trust them Injuns.

    and to throw salt on the wound 3 reds pitchers are out with covid

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Just saw the highlights of Game 1 of the Rangers vs Rays playoff series.

    Tampa Bay had a little over 19k fans. 

    That's embarrassing. 

  • Just saw the highlights of Game 1 of the Rangers vs Rays playoff series.

    Tampa Bay had a little over 19k fans. 

    That's embarrassing. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Just saw the highlights of Game 1 of the Rangers vs Rays playoff series.

    Tampa Bay had a little over 19k fans. 

    That's embarrassing. 

    I just watched the Minnesota  Twins  3-1 win  highlights.   Great defense and one player hits two home runs .... that's it.  Kind of reminded me of the Cleveland GUARDIANS  style of small ball.   But that's it, Twins win.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Potential 2024 firstbasemen Kyle Manzardo, who the Guardians acquired from Tampa Bay for Aaron Civale this summer, off to hot start in Arizona Fall League. 

    https://awaybackgone.com/posts/guardians-kyle-manzardo-homers-in-third-straight-game-in-arizona-fall-league-01hcj092vze7

    And as I write this the Phillies knock off the Atlanta Braves, the team most considered the favorite to win the World Series. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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