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  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63

    Fumble at the worst time turned this from a manageable game to having to sling the rock to dig out.  

     This is the time of the year that teams get locked in, with the taste of the playoffs being a reality.  The games end up being a little faster, hitting a little harder, grinding more focused throughout the week.    And 2 of the next 4 AFC games are against squads fighting for every inch to make that wildcard dream come true.   

    So, more than anything, you need a healthy squad walking into December.   

    The Browns are the opposite of a healthy squad.    Really and truly going to come down to the last 2 weeks.

  • I just saw a quarter but is this a fact?  
     

    DTR > PJ.  

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I just saw a quarter but is this a fact?  
     

    DTR > PJ.  

    Way better!

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I just saw a quarter but is this a fact?  
     

    DTR > PJ.  

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    N Neo wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    Don’t see us winning even if DTR doesn’t get a concussion 

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by

    DTR looked fine today. Hard to have a good stat line when your receivers drop 9 passes and your offensive line repeatedly false starts you into third and long situations. Unfortunately for him, I think we see Flacco starting next week, even if DTR is not injured. 

  • N Neo

    @dutch-oven said:

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven

    @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? 

    Because they are holding out hope that Joe Flacco is going to save the day, that's how one doesn't see improvement.

    Flaccohopium. 

  • Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by Korsou Dawg

    Three terrible starts in a row. I don't even care whether Flacco is ready. DTR needs to be relegated to the practice squad immediately!

  • Super frustrating game as there was nothing to like for me. I hated the offensive play calling, the game day management strategy, the defensive effort as a whole and to top it off, it's fucking Denver..... yet again.

    Maybe we'll all look back at today as a needed amputation to save the body... meaning that if the coaching staff had any false inkling that DTR could take the team to the playoffs, then they now know that is impossible and will have to go to plan Flacco next week.

    ^ I'm not saying Joe can do it, but I am saying that the other 2 dudes at QB can not. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @d-bone said:

    Super frustrating game as there was nothing to like for me. I hated the offensive play calling, the game day management strategy, the defensive effort as a whole and to top it off, it's fucking Denver..... yet again.

    Maybe we'll all look back at today as a needed amputation to save the body... meaning that if the coaching staff had any false inkling that DTR could take the team to the playoffs, then they now know that is impossible and will have to go to plan Flacco next week.

    ^ I'm not saying Joe can do it, but I am saying that the other 2 dudes at QB can not. 

    FWIW, it didn't look like DTR got much help although he brought the score to within 5 points before PJ came in and handed out turnovers and points right and left.

  • Three terrible starts in a row. I don't even care whether Flacco is ready. DTR needs to be relegated to the practice squad immediately!

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Three terrible starts in a row. I don't even care whether Flacco is ready. DTR needs to be related to the practice squad immediately!

    I mean, I imagine it's possible he might have a cousin there or something...? 

  • N Neo

    @dutch-oven said:

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1
  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    Well at least my niece and her daughter got to go see it live as Broncos' fans.

  • N Neo

    @dutch-oven said:

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

  • @flugel said:

    What knucklehead said that?

    Is this just a bad dream or something ???   😮

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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    Is this just a bad dream or something ???   😮

    Screenshot_2023-11-26_191225.jpg

    The first  ever  29 - 12  score in NFL  history, per ESPN now how about that !

    So we saw a little bit of history tonight on FOX TV besides a real bad second half of football.   

    Good night everyone.

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

  • T The Ghost of Eric Metcalf wrote on last edited by

    HORRIBLE HORRIBLE PLAY CALLING

    we need another receiver

    we need Ward and Walker to quit being injured for every big game

    we need an EXPERIENCED and mobile QB

    we need Stafanski to stop calling plays ASAP

  • @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven

    @korsou-dawg said:

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1
    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1

    The stat line doesn't take into account 8 dropped catches, 80 lost yards, and a two point conversion that came off the board. 

    DTR's shouldn't be the scapegoat here. Depodesta ought to be on the fucking hotseat for the situation the Browns are in. 

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    N Neo wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    More dropped passes, one TD dropped by Cooper. This game could look very different. This is why the Browns can't have nice things. DTR looked awful in his first start, showed some clutch last week, and is now expected to be CJ Stroud this week. I think it's safe to say DTR has better wheels than Flacco and look what happened to him. I'm sure a 38 year old pocket passer who just got here a few days ago will do much better.

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

    Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by Korsou Dawg

    @dutch-oven said:

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

    Your Italian roots are Ohio bred? GFY!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

    Your Italian roots are Ohio bred? GFY!

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Your Italian roots are Ohio bread? GFY!

    Ohio bread?

    Like Schwebel's, or Nickle's? 

    But I'm sure you know of them, since you are part of "we" Northeast Ohioans. ?