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  • Super frustrating game as there was nothing to like for me. I hated the offensive play calling, the game day management strategy, the defensive effort as a whole and to top it off, it's fucking Denver..... yet again.

    Maybe we'll all look back at today as a needed amputation to save the body... meaning that if the coaching staff had any false inkling that DTR could take the team to the playoffs, then they now know that is impossible and will have to go to plan Flacco next week.

    ^ I'm not saying Joe can do it, but I am saying that the other 2 dudes at QB can not. 

    @d-bone said:

    Super frustrating game as there was nothing to like for me. I hated the offensive play calling, the game day management strategy, the defensive effort as a whole and to top it off, it's fucking Denver..... yet again.

    Maybe we'll all look back at today as a needed amputation to save the body... meaning that if the coaching staff had any false inkling that DTR could take the team to the playoffs, then they now know that is impossible and will have to go to plan Flacco next week.

    ^ I'm not saying Joe can do it, but I am saying that the other 2 dudes at QB can not. 

    FWIW, it didn't look like DTR got much help although he brought the score to within 5 points before PJ came in and handed out turnovers and points right and left.

  • Three terrible starts in a row. I don't even care whether Flacco is ready. DTR needs to be relegated to the practice squad immediately!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Three terrible starts in a row. I don't even care whether Flacco is ready. DTR needs to be related to the practice squad immediately!

    I mean, I imagine it's possible he might have a cousin there or something...? 

  • N Neo

    @dutch-oven said:

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1
  • Well at least my niece and her daughter got to go see it live as Broncos' fans.

  • N Neo

    @dutch-oven said:

    After today, it sure seems so.

    But he might be out for a bit. 

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

  • @flugel said:

    What knucklehead said that?

    Is this just a bad dream or something ???   😮

    Screenshot_2023-11-26_191225.jpg

    @mjp28 said:

    Is this just a bad dream or something ???   😮

    Screenshot_2023-11-26_191225.jpg

    The first  ever  29 - 12  score in NFL  history, per ESPN now how about that !

    So we saw a little bit of history tonight on FOX TV besides a real bad second half of football.   

    Good night everyone.

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

  • HORRIBLE HORRIBLE PLAY CALLING

    we need another receiver

    we need Ward and Walker to quit being injured for every big game

    we need an EXPERIENCED and mobile QB

    we need Stafanski to stop calling plays ASAP

  • @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1

    The stat line doesn't take into account 8 dropped catches, 80 lost yards, and a two point conversion that came off the board. 

    DTR's shouldn't be the scapegoat here. Depodesta ought to be on the fucking hotseat for the situation the Browns are in. 

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? Don't see how that player that laid that hit on DTR to knock him out of the game doesn't get fined. How can DTR have a bloody lip and a concussion and that not be a dirty hit?

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    @flugel said:

    Thank you!  People want to think the only problem is DTR to the extent they were excited to see FREAKIN PJ Walker again?  

    BYW, Sean Payton was right - that Hackett guy that used to Coach Denver is the one in charge of the train wreck of an offense for the NY Jets.  

    More dropped passes, one TD dropped by Cooper. This game could look very different. This is why the Browns can't have nice things. DTR looked awful in his first start, showed some clutch last week, and is now expected to be CJ Stroud this week. I think it's safe to say DTR has better wheels than Flacco and look what happened to him. I'm sure a 38 year old pocket passer who just got here a few days ago will do much better.

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    How about neither, or we say buh bye to the play-offs!

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

    Your Italian roots are Ohio bred? GFY!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    We?

    Tell us about your last time in Cleveland. 

    Your Italian roots are Ohio bred? GFY!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Your Italian roots are Ohio bread? GFY!

    Ohio bread?

    Like Schwebel's, or Nickle's? 

    But I'm sure you know of them, since you are part of "we" Northeast Ohioans. ?

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    Keep dreaming. Stats like these lose games!

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG  
    14/29 134 4.6 1 0 0-0 73.1

    The stat line doesn't take into account 8 dropped catches, 80 lost yards, and a two point conversion that came off the board. 

    DTR's shouldn't be the scapegoat here. Depodesta ought to be on the fucking hotseat for the situation the Browns are in. 

    @vaportrail said:

    The stat line doesn't take into account 8 dropped catches, 80 lost yards, and a two point conversion that came off the board. 

    DTR's shouldn't be the scapegoat here. Depodesta ought to be on the fucking hotseat for the situation the Browns are in. 

    People still arguing that DTR is servicable are on some serious shit. Neither of our active QBs are anywhere near NFL starter caliber. It was predicabele, and it showed!

  • Eagles and Bills going to OT, tied at 31. 

    I fucking loooooove the Eagles Buddy Ryan era throwbacks, btw. Like, its the only non-Browns jersey I'd ever even think of getting. 

  • @neo said:

    Anybody that doesn't think DTR isn't improving is high. He looked worse that DeShone Kizer against the Ravens. Led a winning drive against Pittsburgh, and threw his first touchdown pass this game. How is that not improvement? 

    Because they are holding out hope that Joe Flacco is going to save the day, that's how one doesn't see improvement.

    Flaccohopium. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Because they are holding out hope that Joe Flacco is going to save the day, that's how one doesn't see improvement.

    Flaccohopium. 

    We don’t have much hope even with Joe, but they stacked the fuck out of the box with DTR and we still couldn’t make it happen. One of the worst run Ds in the nfl sold out in the run all game 

    maybe Flacco could at least keep the defense honest 

  • @vaportrail said:

    The stat line doesn't take into account 8 dropped catches, 80 lost yards, and a two point conversion that came off the board. 

    DTR's shouldn't be the scapegoat here. Depodesta ought to be on the fucking hotseat for the situation the Browns are in. 

    People still arguing that DTR is servicable are on some serious shit. Neither of our active QBs are anywhere near NFL starter caliber. It was predicabele, and it showed!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    People still arguing that DTR is servicable are on some serious shit. Neither of our active QBs are anywhere near NFL starter caliber. It was predicabele, and it showed!

     I actually saw improvement in the 2nd half. And was hopeful for a V

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Because they are holding out hope that Joe Flacco is going to save the day, that's how one doesn't see improvement.

    Flaccohopium. 

    We don’t have much hope even with Joe, but they stacked the fuck out of the box with DTR and we still couldn’t make it happen. One of the worst run Ds in the nfl sold out in the run all game 

    maybe Flacco could at least keep the defense honest 

    @bbedward said:

    We don’t have much hope even with Joe, but they stacked the fuck out of the box with DTR and we still couldn’t make it happen. One of the worst run Ds in the nfl sold out in the run all game 

    maybe Flacco could at least keep the defense honest 

    We could be seeing this sooner than later. 

  • Eagles and Bills going to OT, tied at 31. 

    I fucking loooooove the Eagles Buddy Ryan era throwbacks, btw. Like, its the only non-Browns jersey I'd ever even think of getting. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Eagles and Bills going to OT, tied at 31. 

    That an amazing  FG  kick in the slight rain.  Whoa.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Eagles and Bills going to OT, tied at 31. 

    That an amazing  FG  kick in the slight rain.  Whoa.

    @mjp28 said:

    That an amazing  FG  kick in the slight rain.  Whoa.

    I missed it, how long of a kick?