Jameis Winston is a Brown
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Flacco wants to play. We have Watson. So Flacco won't play unless Watson gets hurt. But Flacco wants to play. So he's going to go elsewhere to play if at all possible. Meanwhile, do we sit on our hands? The answer is no.
Flacco wants to play. We have Watson. So Flacco won't play unless Watson gets hurt. But Flacco wants to play. So he's going to go elsewhere to play if at all possible. Meanwhile, do we sit on our hands? The answer is no.
I get this, but what team out there is seriously thinking of signing 39 year old Joe Flacco and starting him?
Then again, I don't understand why the Browns would look at Flacco and Winston and go "Well both will sign with us, the money is comparable, so lets go with Winston."
I really think they didn't want to deal with a QB controversy. I kind of think that's why we have Winston now. I think this speaks to how confident they really are in Watson coming back and playing well. (Not very confident, I suspect)
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as fans, we may get half truths
The "Flacco wants to return to Cleveland"
2 weeks ago, Flacco himself made radio stops w/Sirius & espn. Heard both.
Flacco & Stef were both raised in Philly. Joe commented on a great player/coach relationship he had w/Stef. Loved the guts, Stef showed as the play caller. Joe didn't want that last game to be his last here. Joe admittedly felt he let the room/fans down. Joe took that loss hard on himself. Yes, Joe wants a chance to play, but he really wants to win more than the money. He's secured his money..
Few days after Joe Flacco spoke & days after combine ?
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Too bad your obvious disdain for a QBs' sexual problems don't seem to extend to your politician.
You don't have to be a prude to hate the Watson trade. But you do if you're going to shit your pants over a consensual peccadillo in the parking lot of the cheesecake factory.
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WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Flacco wants to play. We have Watson. So Flacco won't play unless Watson gets hurt. But Flacco wants to play. So he's going to go elsewhere to play if at all possible. Meanwhile, do we sit on our hands? The answer is no.
Flacco wants to play. We have Watson. So Flacco won't play unless Watson gets hurt. But Flacco wants to play. So he's going to go elsewhere to play if at all possible. Meanwhile, do we sit on our hands? The answer is no.
I get this, but what team out there is seriously thinking of signing 39 year old Joe Flacco and starting him?
Then again, I don't understand why the Browns would look at Flacco and Winston and go "Well both will sign with us, the money is comparable, so lets go with Winston."
I really think they didn't want to deal with a QB controversy. I kind of think that's why we have Winston now. I think this speaks to how confident they really are in Watson coming back and playing well. (Not very confident, I suspect)
as fans, we may get half truths
The "Flacco wants to return to Cleveland"
2 weeks ago, Flacco himself made radio stops w/Sirius & espn. Heard both.
Flacco & Stef were both raised in Philly. Joe commented on a great player/coach relationship he had w/Stef. Loved the guts, Stef showed as the play caller. Joe didn't want that last game to be his last here. Joe admittedly felt he let the room/fans down. Joe took that loss hard on himself. Yes, Joe wants a chance to play, but he really wants to win more than the money. He's secured his money..
Few days after Joe Flacco spoke & days after combine ?
Andrew Berry is building this team to give DW the best possible opportunity to win.
Berry may not admit this publicly, he is also taking away any excuse DW could make.
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yep.
I love the new wr signing. I can't wait for DTR to take the Browns to the playoffs !
With TWO explosive deep threats - EXCELLENT (when DTR takes over)
Cal is very crabby about what a terrible WR he felt Jarvis Landry was. Not only that, the ONLY place OBJ struggled was In Cleveland when Baker couldn't get him the football. Before Baker, OBJ made Pro Bowls and right after Baker he was catching TD passes in playoffs and the Super Bowl. The bigger part of this is John Dorsey (the guy that DRAFTED Baker 1st overall made impressive efforts to bring his QB help at WR here like Jarvis Landry and OBJ. Not 1 person in here complained about either move by Dorsey while most people celebrated them. Baker had a choice: make more commercials or work on his chemistry with OBJ (after/outside of practice).
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Dumbest move since the Manziel draft pick.
Here I thought the front office was doing a great job in general. This is really baffling.
Dumbest move since the Manziel draft pick.
Here I thought the front office was doing a great job in general. This is really baffling.
Not for nothing, but now that the Bears cornered themselves into the point of no return with Justin Fields while they still plan to go through with their plans to draft Caleb Williams - I think the Browns could have traded for Justin Fields without giving up too much in return. I wish they would have at least inquired if they didn't already do so.
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Dumbest move since the Manziel draft pick.
Here I thought the front office was doing a great job in general. This is really baffling.
Not for nothing, but now that the Bears cornered themselves into the point of no return with Justin Fields while they still plan to go through with their plans to draft Caleb Williams - I think the Browns could have traded for Justin Fields without giving up too much in return. I wish they would have at least inquired if they didn't already do so.
Not for nothing, but now that the Bears cornered themselves into the point of no return with Justin Fields while they still plan to go through with their plans to draft Caleb Williams - I think the Browns could have traded for Justin Fields without giving up too much in return. I wish they would have at least inquired if they didn't already do so.
I don’t know why there are NFL teams that are willing to spend a high pick on Caleb Williams…he’s a turnover machine.
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Not for nothing, but now that the Bears cornered themselves into the point of no return with Justin Fields while they still plan to go through with their plans to draft Caleb Williams - I think the Browns could have traded for Justin Fields without giving up too much in return. I wish they would have at least inquired if they didn't already do so.
I don’t know why there are NFL teams that are willing to spend a high pick on Caleb Williams…he’s a turnover machine.
I don’t know why there are NFL teams that are willing to spend a high pick on Caleb Williams…he’s a turnover machine.
When USC played their Bowl Game without Caleb Williams - the QB they started threw 6 TD passes. USC lost 5 games Caleb started in 2023 fwiw...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Too bad your obvious disdain for a QBs' sexual problems don't seem to extend to your politician.
You don't have to be a prude to hate the Watson trade. But you do if you're going to shit your pants over a consensual peccadillo in the parking lot of the cheesecake factory.
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WSS
You don't have to be a prude to hate the Watson trade. But you do if you're going to shit your pants over a consensual peccadillo in the parking lot of the cheesecake factory.
?
WSS
Yeah, it's only adultery ?. The moral compass only seems to get used in here for Watson.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I don’t know why there are NFL teams that are willing to spend a high pick on Caleb Williams…he’s a turnover machine.
When USC played their Bowl Game without Caleb Williams - the QB they started threw 6 TD passes. USC lost 5 games Caleb started in 2023 fwiw...
When USC played their Bowl Game without Caleb Williams - the QB they started threw 6 TD passes. USC lost 5 games Caleb started in 2023 fwiw...
Not counting interceptions, he’s responsible for 32 fumbles in 36 games. ?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
At least apparently he's an extremely solid locker room guy. I could believe that to be true based on his personality.
To me this reeks of two things:
1) At the end of the day, Winston's game is very similar to what we saw Flacco do last season. High Risk, high reward (a la Favre) mentality. Candidly, I see it strictly from a talent standpoint as a slight upgrade and of course a much younger player. Also, just being blunt Flacco gave me major "Fitzmagic" vibes. I get a strong feeling the FO felt the same way.
2) Don't underestimate this move being a sneaky way of protecting Watson. If QB1 comes out next year and looks crappy, the fan base would be rioting to have Flacco put in the game. Just won't happen with famous Jameis.
The big difference for me is.. Flacco can overcome his Int's... Winston falls completely apart at the seams with absolutely 0 ability to overcome his mistakes...
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I would start Winston over.
zappe
stidham
o'connell
pickett or wilson
levis
darnold
carr
howell
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You don't have to be a prude to hate the Watson trade. But you do if you're going to shit your pants over a consensual peccadillo in the parking lot of the cheesecake factory.
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WSS
Yeah, it's only adultery ?. The moral compass only seems to get used in here for Watson.
Yeah, it's only adultery ?. The moral compass only seems to get used in here for Watson.
And that bothers you as much or more than multiple counts of sexual imposition and alleged rape? Got it you guys hate Cal so much that you pull stuff like this out of your ass. And no doubt neither you nor Tex have ever had sex with any woman in the very first one. Ironically he's probably the only guy that never did any of those things. But like I said you don't have to be a prude to hate the Watson deal. Winston didn't set the team back that much so who cares?
WSS
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Not counting interceptions, he’s responsible for 32 fumbles in 36 games. ?
And that's just on the programs he hand selected for himself. What could possibly go wrong as a rookie on a team that doesn't protect the passer very well?
That said, he does have intriguing passing stats when he's not being more generous than Santa Claus to the opponents. Here's his stats sporting good TD:INT ratios but none better than 41:3 from Fields. What got cut off was 35 sacks, for 272 yards and a passer rating of 170.1 in 2023. He takes a lot of sacks at the college level. TDs and INTs are bolded below.
SEASONGPCOMPPATTATT/GPCTPYDSPYDS/ATTPYDS/GPTDLNG300+INTSCKSCK YDSQBRI welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Not counting interceptions, he’s responsible for 32 fumbles in 36 games. ?
And that's just on the programs he hand selected for himself. What could possibly go wrong as a rookie on a team that doesn't protect the passer very well?
That said, he does have intriguing passing stats when he's not being more generous than Santa Claus to the opponents. Here's his stats sporting good TD:INT ratios but none better than 41:3 from Fields. What got cut off was 35 sacks, for 272 yards and a passer rating of 170.1 in 2023. He takes a lot of sacks at the college level. TDs and INTs are bolded below.
SEASONGPCOMPPATTATT/GPCTPYDSPYDS/ATTPYDS/GPTDLNG300+INTSCKSCK YDSQBRAnd that's just on the programs he hand selected for himself. What could possibly go wrong as a rookie on a team that doesn't protect the passer very well?
That said, he does have intriguing passing stats when he's not being more generous than Santa Claus to the opponents. Here's his stats sporting good TD:INT ratios but none better than 41:3 from Fields. What got cut off was 35 sacks, for 272 yards and a passer rating of 170.1 in 2023. He takes a lot of sacks at the college level. TDs and INTs are bolded below.
SEASONGPCOMPPATTATT/GPCTPYDSPYDS/ATTPYDS/GPTDLNG300+INTSCKSCK YDSQBRI lifted a few blurbs about Caleb Williams from an NFL Scout’s (Dan Kelly) perspective. . .
Pro Football Focus recorded Williams at 3.44 seconds in 2022 and 3.21 seconds in 2023. Williams was sacked 63 times (2022-2023). Only seven NFL QBs are over 3 seconds (NEXT GEN STATS). Bears’ QB Justin Fields was the slowest (3.23 seconds). Fields was sacked 99 times (2022-2023).
Williams was 2-9 against ranked teams the past two seasons.
Post-game conduct ⎯refused to shake hands with Utah and refused to talk to reporters after the UCLA loss.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
And that's just on the programs he hand selected for himself. What could possibly go wrong as a rookie on a team that doesn't protect the passer very well?
That said, he does have intriguing passing stats when he's not being more generous than Santa Claus to the opponents. Here's his stats sporting good TD:INT ratios but none better than 41:3 from Fields. What got cut off was 35 sacks, for 272 yards and a passer rating of 170.1 in 2023. He takes a lot of sacks at the college level. TDs and INTs are bolded below.
SEASONGPCOMPPATTATT/GPCTPYDSPYDS/ATTPYDS/GPTDLNG300+INTSCKSCK YDSQBRI lifted a few blurbs about Caleb Williams from an NFL Scout’s (Dan Kelly) perspective. . .
Pro Football Focus recorded Williams at 3.44 seconds in 2022 and 3.21 seconds in 2023. Williams was sacked 63 times (2022-2023). Only seven NFL QBs are over 3 seconds (NEXT GEN STATS). Bears’ QB Justin Fields was the slowest (3.23 seconds). Fields was sacked 99 times (2022-2023).
Williams was 2-9 against ranked teams the past two seasons.
Post-game conduct ⎯refused to shake hands with Utah and refused to talk to reporters after the UCLA loss.
︎ ︎ I lifted a few blurbs about Caleb Williams from an NFL Scout’s (Dan Kelly) perspective. . .
READ ON -->
● Pro Football Focus recorded Williams at 3.44 seconds in 2022 and 3.21 seconds in 2023. Williams was sacked 63 times (2022-2023). Only seven NFL QBs are over 3 seconds (NEXT GEN STATS). Bears’ QB Justin Fields was the slowest (3.23 seconds). Fields was sacked 99 times (2022-2023).
︎ --> Caleb Williams was 2-9 against ranked teams the past two seasons.
︎ --> Post-game conduct ⎯refused to shake hands with Utah and refused to talk to reporters after the UCLA loss.
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︎ Some interesting personal conduct stats there .... on the negative side.
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︎ Those things tend to follow you around you around your play later around, eh ?
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︎ ︎ I lifted a few blurbs about Caleb Williams from an NFL Scout’s (Dan Kelly) perspective. . .
READ ON -->
● Pro Football Focus recorded Williams at 3.44 seconds in 2022 and 3.21 seconds in 2023. Williams was sacked 63 times (2022-2023). Only seven NFL QBs are over 3 seconds (NEXT GEN STATS). Bears’ QB Justin Fields was the slowest (3.23 seconds). Fields was sacked 99 times (2022-2023).
︎ --> Caleb Williams was 2-9 against ranked teams the past two seasons.
︎ --> Post-game conduct ⎯refused to shake hands with Utah and refused to talk to reporters after the UCLA loss.
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︎ Some interesting personal conduct stats there .... on the negative side.
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︎ Those things tend to follow you around you around your play later around, eh ?
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︎ Some interesting personal conduct stats there .... on the negative side.
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︎ Those things tend to follow you around you around your play later around, eh ?
Another blurb from the same article. . .
Wants to get out of structure as a passer and get reckless as a runner (increased injury risk). He reverts to locking in with receivers. Additionally, he talked down about a fan calling him a “sheep,” and he does unpredictable and uncensored things ranging from painting obscenities on his fingernails to jumping into the stands and crying in his mother’s arms.
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And that's just on the programs he hand selected for himself. What could possibly go wrong as a rookie on a team that doesn't protect the passer very well?
That said, he does have intriguing passing stats when he's not being more generous than Santa Claus to the opponents. Here's his stats sporting good TD:INT ratios but none better than 41:3 from Fields. What got cut off was 35 sacks, for 272 yards and a passer rating of 170.1 in 2023. He takes a lot of sacks at the college level. TDs and INTs are bolded below.
SEASONGPCOMPPATTATT/GPCTPYDSPYDS/ATTPYDS/GPTDLNG300+INTSCKSCK YDSQBRI lifted a few blurbs about Caleb Williams from an NFL Scout’s (Dan Kelly) perspective. . .
Pro Football Focus recorded Williams at 3.44 seconds in 2022 and 3.21 seconds in 2023. Williams was sacked 63 times (2022-2023). Only seven NFL QBs are over 3 seconds (NEXT GEN STATS). Bears’ QB Justin Fields was the slowest (3.23 seconds). Fields was sacked 99 times (2022-2023).
Williams was 2-9 against ranked teams the past two seasons.
Post-game conduct ⎯refused to shake hands with Utah and refused to talk to reporters after the UCLA loss.
I lifted a few blurbs about Caleb Williams from an NFL Scout’s (Dan Kelly) perspective. . .
Pro Football Focus recorded Williams at 3.44 seconds in 2022 and 3.21 seconds in 2023. Williams was sacked 63 times (2022-2023). Only seven NFL QBs are over 3 seconds (NEXT GEN STATS). Bears’ QB Justin Fields was the slowest (3.23 seconds). Fields was sacked 99 times (2022-2023).
Williams was 2-9 against ranked teams the past two seasons.
Post-game conduct ⎯refused to shake hands with Utah and refused to talk to reporters after the UCLA loss.
Thanks for all that info CD. What are the Bears thinking? They should keep Fields, draft Marvin Harrison and some OL.
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