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  • @tinythinker said:

    Any other big upsides? Or medium to small upsides/opportunities?

    It would be easier to attract players to the organization.  Believe it or not, there are players that don't like playing in the freezing wind, rain and/or snow.  Like Anthony Walker who just told his agent to find someplace warm and that he's sick of the cold.  Or Deshaun Watson who doesn't like the cold such that it took a quarter billion guaranteed to get him here.

    @orion said:

    It would be easier to attract players to the organization.  Believe it or not, there are players that don't like playing in the freezing wind, rain and/or snow.  Like Anthony Walker who just told his agent to find someplace warm and that he's sick of the cold.  Or Deshaun Watson who doesn't like the cold such that it took a quarter billion guaranteed to get him here.

    I'd go so far as to say nobody* likes it.  My question to those who say so is why are nearly all Clevelanders so ready for spring and summer?

    Who in here wants Cleveland cold and slop weather to be a year round deal?  Ask any lineman for the public utility in Cleveland if they like being up in the bucket in February.

    *  OK, there are always a few simpletons in the crowd.

  • The Chicago Bears are set to announce a $4.6 billion plan to build a new enclosed stadium and improved lakefront area with half of the money coming from taxpayers, sources said.

  • The Chicago Bears are set to announce a $4.6 billion plan to build a new enclosed stadium and improved lakefront area with half of the money coming from taxpayers, sources said.

    @orion said:

    The Chicago Bears are set to announce a $4.6 billion plan to build a new enclosed stadium and improved lakefront area with half of the money coming from taxpayers, sources said.

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

  • @orion said:

    The Chicago Bears are set to announce a $4.6 billion plan to build a new enclosed stadium and improved lakefront area with half of the money coming from taxpayers, sources said.

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

    @mjp28 said:

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

    I absolutely understand that open-air football stadiums in the North are pretty useless for so much of the year but I admit, I watched a video of the renderings of the new Bears domed stadium and part of me died inside thinking of a team like the Bears playing indoors.

    And I have a feeling if the Browns build a dome, a big part of me is going to absolutely hate it too, even if the logical part of me understands. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

    I absolutely understand that open-air football stadiums in the North are pretty useless for so much of the year but I admit, I watched a video of the renderings of the new Bears domed stadium and part of me died inside thinking of a team like the Bears playing indoors.

    And I have a feeling if the Browns build a dome, a big part of me is going to absolutely hate it too, even if the logical part of me understands. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I watched a video of the renderings of the new Bears domed stadium and part of me died inside

    I hear ya.  But a part of people died after the Chiefs playoff game.  (amputations)

    Games are being played deeper and deeper into the winter.  We're at a 17 game schedule right now.  How long do we think that odd # 17 is going to last?   It's going to be 18 some day.  And they'll probably throw in another bye week.  So we'll be even deeper into the winter.  And the league will be scheduling night games...because it gives good TV ratings from the people sitting warm in their living rooms.  I mean really, we wouldn't make our dogs stay out in that weather for the time frame of a football game.  But it's ok for humans.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I watched a video of the renderings of the new Bears domed stadium and part of me died inside

    I hear ya.  But a part of people died after the Chiefs playoff game.  (amputations)

    Games are being played deeper and deeper into the winter.  We're at a 17 game schedule right now.  How long do we think that odd # 17 is going to last?   It's going to be 18 some day.  And they'll probably throw in another bye week.  So we'll be even deeper into the winter.  And the league will be scheduling night games...because it gives good TV ratings from the people sitting warm in their living rooms.  I mean really, we wouldn't make our dogs stay out in that weather for the time frame of a football game.  But it's ok for humans.  

    @orion said:

    I hear ya.  But a part of people died after the Chiefs playoff game.  (amputations)

    Games are being played deeper and deeper into the winter.  We're at a 17 game schedule right now.  How long do we think that odd # 17 is going to last?   It's going to be 18 some day.  And they'll probably throw in another bye week.  So we'll be even deeper into the winter.  And the league will be scheduling night games...because it gives good TV ratings from the people sitting warm in their living rooms.  I mean really, we wouldn't make our dogs stay out in that weather for the time frame of a football game.  But it's ok for humans.  

    Hence why I wrote that the logical part of me understands why the team could end up in a dome. 

  • @orion said:

    The Chicago Bears are set to announce a $4.6 billion plan to build a new enclosed stadium and improved lakefront area with half of the money coming from taxpayers, sources said.

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

    @mjp28 said:

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

    No doubt.  Ony simpletons think you should be playing in the snow and slush.  I'd also bet most don't even go to games.

    IMO if you don't attend 3-4 games a year, your opinion is moot.   

    Big talkers who don't spend money.  Pfft.

    It's easy to say what you want while sitting at home.  I go to games and live 600 miles away.

  • @mjp28 said:

    A  $4.6B  new enclosed stadium  on mean  ol' Lake Michigan ....  sweet.   😮   

    Face it in November, December  and  especially January I for one would  lo♥︎e  to be in a nice 68°  seasoned surroundings  versus a  7° with 25 mph winds blowing straight in off the lake for hours on end.

    The players would agree with me  100%  guaranteed.   

    I absolutely understand that open-air football stadiums in the North are pretty useless for so much of the year but I admit, I watched a video of the renderings of the new Bears domed stadium and part of me died inside thinking of a team like the Bears playing indoors.

    And I have a feeling if the Browns build a dome, a big part of me is going to absolutely hate it too, even if the logical part of me understands. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And I have a feeling if the Browns build a dome, a big part of me is going to absolutely hate it too, even if the logical part of me understands. 

    And will praise God the first time you trudge through 3 feet of snow while it's still falling so hard you can't see 50 ft. while bundled up for the 10 degree 30 mph winds.?️?

  • @orion said:

    I hear ya.  But a part of people died after the Chiefs playoff game.  (amputations)

    Games are being played deeper and deeper into the winter.  We're at a 17 game schedule right now.  How long do we think that odd # 17 is going to last?   It's going to be 18 some day.  And they'll probably throw in another bye week.  So we'll be even deeper into the winter.  And the league will be scheduling night games...because it gives good TV ratings from the people sitting warm in their living rooms.  I mean really, we wouldn't make our dogs stay out in that weather for the time frame of a football game.  But it's ok for humans.  

    Hence why I wrote that the logical part of me understands why the team could end up in a dome. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Hence why I wrote that the logical part of me understands why the team could end up in a dome. 

    Hey what fun is  logic ?  Now go all in for the .... BROWNS in a luxury DOME .....  BABY !      😆

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And I have a feeling if the Browns build a dome, a big part of me is going to absolutely hate it too, even if the logical part of me understands. 

    And will praise God the first time you trudge through 3 feet of snow while it's still falling so hard you can't see 50 ft. while bundled up for the 10 degree 30 mph winds.?️?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And will praise God the first time you trudge through 3 feet of snow while it's still falling so hard you can't see 50 ft. while bundled up for the 10 degree 30 mph winds.?️?

    OH YES !   I remember those days in high school. .....  and a few in college and some great ones at the  OL' MUNI !   

    I'm too old  for that stuff,  give me a dome now.   My body isn't a bleacher bod any more.     😮

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And will praise God the first time you trudge through 3 feet of snow while it's still falling so hard you can't see 50 ft. while bundled up for the 10 degree 30 mph winds.?️?

    OH YES !   I remember those days in high school. .....  and a few in college and some great ones at the  OL' MUNI !   

    I'm too old  for that stuff,  give me a dome now.   My body isn't a bleacher bod any more.     😮

    @mjp28 said:

    OH YES !   I remember those days in high school. .....  and a few in college and some great ones at the  OL' MUNI !   

    I'm too old  for that stuff,  give me a dome now.   My body isn't a bleacher bod any more.     😮

    I experienced one of those nights in Wyoming when it was -26F with a 50 mph wind.

    Sanity prevailed and I left for warmer climates.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And I have a feeling if the Browns build a dome, a big part of me is going to absolutely hate it too, even if the logical part of me understands. 

    And will praise God the first time you trudge through 3 feet of snow while it's still falling so hard you can't see 50 ft. while bundled up for the 10 degree 30 mph winds.?️?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And will praise God the first time you trudge through 3 feet of snow while it's still falling so hard you can't see 50 ft. while bundled up for the 10 degree 30 mph winds.?️?

    Oh sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus, thank you for this dome stadium that will allow my Brownies to snatch defeats from the jaws of victory in perfect 72 degree weather! 

  • Apparently this is the rendering of the new Browns domed stadium in Brookpark.

    It is... um... interesting. 

  • I love the angular roof. Tornadoes can lift it right off and carry it to Canton's HOF Stadium.?️?

  • I love the angular roof. Tornadoes can lift it right off and carry it to Canton's HOF Stadium.?️?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I love the angular roof. Tornadoes can lift it right off and carry it to Canton's HOF Stadium.?️?

    Cleveland doesn't get tornadoes you silly goose!

    So apparently most of the dome would be underground because there is a height restriction due to the airport next door... perfect tornado shelter! (Don't worry about the shards of glass!)

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I love the angular roof. Tornadoes can lift it right off and carry it to Canton's HOF Stadium.?️?

    Cleveland doesn't get tornadoes you silly goose!

    So apparently most of the dome would be underground because there is a height restriction due to the airport next door... perfect tornado shelter! (Don't worry about the shards of glass!)

    @dutch-oven said:

    Cleveland doesn't get tornadoes you silly goose!

    So apparently most of the dome would be underground because there is a height restriction due to the airport next door... perfect tornado shelter! (Don't worry about the shards of glass!)

    People in Wichita believed that tornadoes never touched down east of the Arkansas river there.........................................until it did.........................https://www.weather.gov/ict/AndoverTimeline

    Kind of like Cleveland ...............................until last year........?

  • Dig Dawg Dome?

  • So has been these rumors for years that Modell was offered a chance to be included in the Gateway sports complex in the early 90s, but he turned it down. We know the rest.

    Well, supposedly the location of the Browns stadium would have been south of I-90, on the other side of the highway from Progressive Field. 

    There could end up being a stadium there after all... 

    https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/sports/articles/the-group-behind-the-push-for-a-cleveland-soccer-stadium-wants-90m-in-public-funds